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January 19, 2023

Don’t speak

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:09 am

On Tuesday night because the agenda was light the City Council was able to get to the Council Referrals, for some reason Tony Daysog pulled his Referral about increasing the number of City Council members, maybe he realized that more people would not be better for him, who knows, but the Narcan machine issue came under discussion. As usual whenever Trish Spencer champions something, it goes a bit sideways with only Tony Daysog supporting her because she hasn’t really worked collaboratively with anyone to understand what the current offerings are out there and then come up with ways the City Council can advocate for something additive but this isn’t anything we did not know about Trish Spencer. Which is why her sole utility on a governing board is as a reflexive “no” vote. Unless the issue is something she feels personally passionate about (marijuana) and other people are already on board about she has zero ability to lead anyone else into a place of yes. Well, she can usually get Tony Daysog but that’s because he knows she’s his only ally on the City Council as well.

But anyway, Alameda now has a new City Council gadfly who feels the need to speak at every single meeting and on every single issue. As you may have guessed, this speak is also a Trish Spencer fan so…

There are few people who understand the nuances of everything that is going on in the City, and look, you can even see that in action from people who are elected to the City Council so some rando who logs in every two weeks will, more likely than not, not be full informed enough to talk about every issue but this person does.

Given how much I watch City Council meetings, I get pretty good at tuning out these gadflies particularly when they hit that special monotone where you know they are settling in to use ALL their time to speak rather than say their piece and be done. But during this Narcan this gadfly decided that they were going to settle in and say the most heinous thing that they could say in order to support Trish Spencer’s referral:

And this wasn’t just a one time slip of the tongue, the commenter said it at least twice because I thought I misheard the first time or that it was poorly phrased and misstated but nope, they said it again.

This is all to say, hey, you don’t need to talk all the time and on every single issue. It’s really unnecessary and sometimes we learn that your calculus of who is worthy of life and who is not needs serious re-tooling.

12 Comments »

  1. Wasn’t that the same argument (now debunked) used by you and others who condemned citizens who were hesitant to get vaccinated? Many argued medical services should be denied.

    Comment by Mirror — January 19, 2023 @ 7:07 am

    • Please point to who (locally) said that people shouldn’t be provided services if they refused the Covid vaccine. Statements crafted in your mind palace do not count.

      Comment by Lauren Do — January 19, 2023 @ 8:32 am

      • “The willfully unvaccinated who wind up in hospitals from Covid should not receive priority medical care over other very sick or injured people who are as much in urgent need of medical care.”

        George Takei

        “You have the option to not get vaccinated but then you can’t go out in public, and this includes airline travel.”

        Dr. Leanna Wen of CNN, Georgetown professor, former head of Planned Parenthood

        “We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. That’s why I’m mandating shots for all Americans.”

        President Biden

        “Dr. Fauci said that if hospitals get any more overcrowded, they’re going to have to make some very tough choices about who gets an ICU bed. That choice doesn’t seem tough to me. Vaccinated person having a heart attack? Yes, come right in, we’ll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled up horse goo? rest 8n peace wheezy.”

        Jimmy Kimmel

        Etc.

        Comment by Memory — January 19, 2023 @ 12:06 pm

        • None of those people live around here so you didn’t reposed to Lauren’s point, but I’ll play along and ask what is your argument exactly? Those examples are solid/valid arguments to me made and have nothing to do with and no comparison to a discussion around distributing Narcan in our city to help save lives.

          Comment by bjsvec — January 19, 2023 @ 12:14 pm

        • None of these comments support your point.

          Comment by Larry Witte — January 19, 2023 @ 12:17 pm

        • You understood Mirror to make a point? I guess the answer to the original post is simply no. No, it is not the same argument. At all.

          Comment by bjsvec — January 19, 2023 @ 12:21 pm

        • Reading comprehension still failing you I see.

          Comment by Lauren Do — January 19, 2023 @ 12:21 pm

        • Uh oh, someone got mad at a fake Joe Biden quote designed to make people mad. Actual quote here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/09/09/remarks-by-president-biden-on-fighting-the-covid-19-pandemic-3/

          > We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us. So, please, do the right thing. But just don’t take it from me; listen to the voices of unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds, taking their final breaths, saying, “If only I had gotten vaccinated.” “If only.”

          He only said “That’s why I’m mandating shots for all Americans” in the righteous indignation wing of your mind palace.

          Comment by Doug Keen — January 19, 2023 @ 4:12 pm

        • ” same argument… used by you and others”

          So, you find zero quotes from “you” even though you have her whole blog in front of you. Then, out of the 332,000,000 Americans, you find one quote that supports your statement, one joke that supports your statement, one that says you should be denied airline travel, and a quote from our President that directly contradicts your statement, showing empathy and love towards idiots who refuse to take it – you can watch and listen to what he said in this link…

          https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-58510013

          Easy to guess where you get your news…the Fox headline was, “Liberals cheer on Biden’s anger toward the unvaccinated during COVID address.”

          Comment by try again — January 20, 2023 @ 7:09 am

    • I think I know what you are alluding to, but that would be the _complete opposite_ scenario where some people suggested that those who refused treatment/prevention/vaccine should perhaps not be first in line when they realize they made a mistake and now need services/hospital bed/medication that could have been prevented. The moral argument is that the services should be given to those that at least tried in good faith to keep others and themself healthy as opposed to those denying the science and causing more illness and death.

      Curious what you think of first responders actively saving people who want to kill themselves? Literally, as in suicide. Should they just let them do it?

      Comment by bjsvec — January 19, 2023 @ 9:51 am

  2. Hopefully, we never get to the point where we have to choose who lives. If we can prevent it we should no matter what choices they made in the past. A lot of people choose suicide, used drugs, or made poor choices, who survived, and now are living full lives. When it comes to someone’s morals, feeling, and even opinions it is hard to say they are wrong because everyone is entitled to their own. If this is about Narcan if you can save a life with it why wouldn’t you? It could be your friend, kid, or loved one and like it or not we are not God.

    Anyways, I thought the post was about not needing to use up all 15 minutes of nonsense when he could have said what need to be said in 30 seconds, and been done. I have a friend who when he starts talking everyone knows that is time to get up, use the restroom, and get some coffee because after 10 minutes he will finally get to his point which could have been said in one or two sentences. Some people just like hearing their voice.

    Comment by Gage — January 19, 2023 @ 2:19 pm

    • On the non-serious side – we can make exceptions for Trumpers. LOL.

      Comment by Gage — January 19, 2023 @ 2:23 pm


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