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April 26, 2022

We don’t talk about Bruno

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:06 am

I mean, you have to hand it to Carmen Reid, she’s nothing if not persistent in her desire to keep poor, medically fragile, and homeless people from being housed at the Wellness Center. Her latest effort is to get the State Historic Resources Commission to add a fair chunk of the McKay site to the Historic Register under the auspices of the Alameda Architectural Preservation Society.

So if you ever see me side eyeing AAPS or anyone using AAPS’s talking points around the need for housing, but only affordable housing remember when AAPS allowed Carmen Reid to use their name to file an application with the sole purpose to stop the Wellness Center after using every other method prior to this including contacting Wellness Center funders to pull promised money for the project.

Amazingly enough I guess if you throw enough words at the right sort of preservationists it doesn’t matter what your State Historic Preservation Officer in 2003 wrote about the lack of significance of the site:

The most ridiculous part of the staff report from the historic preservation people is this:

So, essentially what they’re saying is that because Carmen Reid and AAPS opened up the application to cover property owned by East Bay Regional Park District (EBRPD) because there are structures on that site which are significant now the bulk of McKay Avenue is therefore up for grabs under this blanket designation.

But what the State Historic Office should be asking is, why are we not including all of the property which was a part of the Maritime School? Why is Carmen Reid/AAPS excluding the property where buildings 12, 18, 19, 20, and 21 once stood?

It seems as though, if we’re contemplating adding McKay property to the historic register because of things that happened there and not just the buildings which remain we should be capturing all the land which are or used to be part of the Maritime School. Which includes not what Carmen Reid/AAPS has limited the parcel to be but including Neptune Plaza, Neptune’s, and Park and Webster Condos.

In fact, one of the photographs included in the Carmen Reid/AAPS application is building 18 and the land on which building 18 used to sit is not included in the application:

Surely if this building was significant to include in the application then the property it sits on is worthy of the historic determination as well.

Further problematic is that the staff historian at the state simply echoed what was in the application without any supporting evidence:

There’s nothing that, definitely, shows the listings of who the architects were other than notations that include a marriage announcement. To compare the Page and Turnbull document cites an Alameda Times-Star article from that time which lists the architects as “Coast Guard engineers”:

I’m not saying Carmen Reid/AAPS is making up the architect thing, I’d just want to see the source document which she claims exists. I mean the document was already 53 pages long, what’s another few pages?


  1. This woman is a cruel monster. How do her children even look at her?

    Comment by 2,000 Year Old Roman Walls — April 26, 2022 @ 7:27 am

    • Probably the same way a child of yours would look at you following such a cruel & rude comment. It’s fine to disagree, even vehemently. But you needn’t be a jerk.

      Comment by Neal J — April 26, 2022 @ 9:57 am

      • Neal. This facility will save lives, seniors who are otherwise dying on the streets. Carmen Reid is committing tons of resources and time to try and stop that. And for what? What will she accomplish? A bunch of buildings that will sit vacant? Yes, she’s an absolutely cruel monster who has no shame.

        Comment by 2,000 Year Old Roman Walls — April 26, 2022 @ 11:10 am

      • Neal, you seem concerned. Have you tried eating a bag of dicks?

        Comment by Rod — April 26, 2022 @ 12:01 pm

      • Neal, Carmen Reid is using deceptive means and manipulation of facts to try and overturn an election, and in the process injuring the most vulnerable members of our community. That’s pretty appalling. I think “monster” is very apt.

        Comment by Observer — April 26, 2022 @ 12:10 pm

        • Neal is correct. This blog is rife with cruel and and rude comments along with personal attacks.

          Please get off your high horse, and let’s talk about deception and manipulation…. What about Doug Biggs pulling a bait and switch and deceptively expanding the number of people to be housed by the center AFTER the measure passed? The facts are the state has spent billions on the problems of the homeless and have nothing to show for it but an increase in homelessness, drug use, and death and local citizens have a right to be concerned.

          Comment by Good Swimmer — April 26, 2022 @ 1:35 pm

        • Speaking of cruel monsters, ladies and gentlemen, the personification of the banality of evil herself, “Good Swimmer,” came to drop another one of her turds in the punch bowl! Oh no, they’re being mean to the people trying to stop a facility for the most vulnerable people in our community! Won’t any of you awful people PLEASE think of the NIMBYs’ feelings??? But all sarcasm aside, Denise, Doug Biggs is a saint and you’re a fucking ghoul.

          Comment by Rod — April 26, 2022 @ 2:34 pm

        • Good Swimmer: Good lord, “Doug Biggs” (or did you mean his employer, APC?) did a bait and switch by going from 90 units to 100 units?! 10 whole extra units!? Because the engineers found a more efficient design that is seismically safer?? That is absolutely a bait and switch, because I specifically voted for a seismically unsafe structure and these damn meddling engineers came up with a more efficient design that promotes safety! We demand a do-over of the election!

          Comment by Mediocre Swimmer — April 26, 2022 @ 2:57 pm

    • Ahhh Yes – “anyone who disagrees with me is a cruel monster.” The ol’ Alameda Peeps mindset. Believe it or not other people’s principaled objections do not make them terrible people.

      Comment by Anon Johnson — April 27, 2022 @ 10:00 am

      • Same poster today: “a slur, a crutch for a mentally inferior person”

        Comment by You can't make this up — April 27, 2022 @ 10:38 am

      • Same poster today: “a slur, a crutch for a mentally inferior person”

        Comment by You can't make this up — April 27, 2022 @ 10:41 am

      • A whole long history of cruel and monstrous comments, however…

        Comment by Rod — April 27, 2022 @ 11:14 am

      • And where are the “principaled” objections? Certainly not in this fabricated application. And yes, Carmen Reid is apparently a terrible person, people who know her have been distancing themselves. There’s a story going around about how Carmen showed up for a game night at a friend’s house, and when the host’s friends was appalled by her presence, she was asked to have Carmen leave the premises.

        Comment by Alameda Poops, not Peeps — April 27, 2022 @ 12:41 pm

        • Sounds like someone got their ass beat on game night! But seriously, this thread is ridiculous. Carmen is beloved in Alameda. She just organized an art fundraiser to benefit a children’s hospital in Ukraine. She’s clearly a strong woman who loves this community. I hope she runs for City Council. Trolls will troll. Leaders will persevere.

          Comment by Peace — April 27, 2022 @ 4:21 pm

        • Awww how cute that she cares about people so far from her own backyard! What a great humanitarian!

          Comment by Rod — April 28, 2022 @ 6:12 am

  2. This part really stuck out:

    “Construction began on October 29, 1942 and was 90% finished when the school opened January 29, 1943.”

    Times have changed, eh?

    Comment by dave — April 26, 2022 @ 9:30 am

    • Hard to be a NIMBY stalling and killing projects with CEQA complaints and endless “community inputs” when you’re trying to win World War II.

      Comment by Mediocre Swimmer — April 26, 2022 @ 3:01 pm

  3. Why did they even accept this application, given that Carmen Reid has no title within AAPS and is not on their board? Strange.

    About the architects–I was able to find some of these buildings listed as designed by Harry Bruno in an archive from the Pacific Coast Architecture Database: It would be interesting to see any supportive evidence aside from this, though. Also, Joseph Esherick is listed on that same database (and designed the bizarre Wurster Hall at UCB!), but the Maritime buildings are *not* listed as having been designed by him nor his firm. One of the architects he worked with did design some Maritime school buildings… but in San Mateo.

    Fred J Early, Jr., was a builder, but only got his license in 1932: Would he really have been trusted to do this job?

    (I love internet research)

    Comment by Mom and kid in the Island City — May 11, 2022 @ 3:37 pm

    • Interesting. If you read one of the overview sections, it says ” In 2022, only Savannah Hall…” That means sometime this year 2022, someone made/edited these submissions. Would it be that far-fetched that the opposition would try to seed architectural databases with their own claims to give them a veneer of credibility? They have done this before, so it would not surprise me. For the record, Harry Bruno only provided professional services but not the design work, and this description did not make that clear.

      Comment by An Alamedan — May 11, 2022 @ 4:03 pm

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