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December 17, 2020

“Don’t let THESE people take away everything!”

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:07 am

I just wanted to throw out few selections from the more than 185 comments submitted as part of the community survey on preferential names to rename Jackson Park. But first, the survey results:

Unsurprisingly Alameda Park in Alameda, CA proved to be a very popular name. Also not surprising were some of the comments which could have been submitted at any time in Alameda past from like today all the way to when the park name was dedicated to Andrew Jackson. I didn’t even include all the people who said it should be “Alameda Park” because that was its original name which no one seemed to know about until the process of Renaming Jackson Park started two years ago.

This one felt particularly old fashioned and yet so very Alameda:

“Don’t let THESE people take away everything!”

I wonder who “THESE people” are.

11 Comments »

  1. California State University, Monterey Bay
    Digital Commons @ CSUMB
    Government Documents and Publications First Nations Era
    7-4-2017
    2009 – Ohlone/Costanoan Indians of the San Francisco Peninsula and their Neighbors, Yesterday and Today by Randall Milliken, Laurence H. Shoup, and Beverly R. Ortiz

    https://digitalcommons.csumb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1005&context=hornbeck_ind_1

    Comment by MP — December 17, 2020 @ 8:28 am

  2. Those darn residents of Alameda:

    Thoughtcrime is a word coined by George Orwell in his 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. It describes a person’s politically unorthodox thoughts, such as unspoken beliefs and doubts that contradict the tenets of Ingsoc, the dominant ideology of Oceania.

    Comment by Doc Biden — December 17, 2020 @ 8:46 am

  3. The hurdle to rename streets in Alameda is an almost impossible one to clear, which is why recent efforts on this have stalled. Apparently, it’s not enough to have petitions going to rename a street – but in Alameda you have to get the majority of residents on each block to sign off on it. This makes sense if we were simply renaming for the sake of renaming, and thus it’s fair to put the burden – time, cost, effort – on those who seek to do this. But if it’s about rectifying an ugly history, the burden really should fall on the city to right a wrong. In New Orleans, for example, the city council there established a Street Renaming Commission to remove anything that honors people affiliated with the Confederacy or white supremacy. In Alameda, we should do the same.

    Comment by JRB — December 17, 2020 @ 9:35 am

  4. When a street is renamed, what are the specific costs of that, if any, for residents or occupants? Are street names updated (or the old ones remembered) in the postal system, so that mail will still find the intended recipient even if the sender has not been informed of the name change? I assume that if such a system exists, it does not apply to advertising. Those costs may pale in comparison with the need to change the name, perhaps depending on the specific name change in question – and maybe they should not be taken into consideration at all. My question, if anyone knows the answer, or has been through a name change, is directed more to the practicalities. I’m looking up the source of my street’s name now. Off the top of my head, I don’t know it to be suspect – and, in fact, I have no clue about its origin.

    Unrelated – have others been getting spam requests for money for Frmr Gov George Ryan’s anti-death penalty group? I agree with the cause, but didn’t he make enough money selling commercial drivers’ licenses in Illinois?

    Comment by MP — December 17, 2020 @ 10:13 am

    • The cost is about $10,000-20,000, depending on the length of the street – thankfully, the streets in question (Calhoun, Haight, Jackson are just the ones I’m aware of) are all fairly short and only 3 or 4 businesses could get impacted in total. The postal system would honor both the old and new names for 5 years, which is what happened with Robert Davey Jr Drive (formerly Bridgeway) on Bay Farm. This is actually why Ralph Appezzato Way is only for west of Webster Street while the east still retained the original Atlantic Avenue, because the only address that needed to approve the name change was the College of Alameda, whereas to the east there are numerous residences and businesses that likely would have objected.

      Comment by JRB — December 17, 2020 @ 11:03 am

  5. Years ago, I read about some residents in, I think, Contra Costa County, hated the name of the street they lived on, which was called “Gay Court”. They successfully petitioned to have the street name changed to “High Eagle Court”. Still cracks me up!

    Comment by Alameda Bound — December 17, 2020 @ 4:35 pm

  6. I prefer to think of it as George Jackson park B)

    Comment by E — December 18, 2020 @ 5:10 pm

  7. You are very radical, but I respect you. I do, seriously, doubt that your rename for the Park would have gotten a majority vote, though. Lauren is most likely correct about Alamedan’s and such matters. George Jackson Park is a stretch right now, just wait a few months.

    Comment by Alameda Bound — December 19, 2020 @ 6:56 pm

    • Is it officially named “Andrew Jackson” park or just Jackson park

      Comment by E — December 20, 2020 @ 11:27 am


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