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September 7, 2017

Into the weeds

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:07 am

On Tuesday night the cannabis business agenda item went on forever, so some of the issues (ahemPBnominationsahem) were not heard.  There are a lot of issues that came up on all sides of the issues.  There was some urgency to push this through by Trish Spencer, an urgency that she doesn’t seem to have for issues like housing which affects people’s actual living situations, but whatevs. One of the big issues though is where would these businesses be allowed.  State law has limitations on where based on proximity to “schools/day cares/youth centers” and has set a minimum 600 foot radius around these locations.

FYI, as with all City Council meetings on any topic that is remotely controversial, it was kind of a cluster to come to some consensus.  More on that some other day.

Staff had a map of *some* of the facilities that meet the definition above, but it definitely was missing a lot of structures that fall into the “day care” category.  It sounds as though there is consensus among the City Council for a 1000 foot radius and it looks like the School Board might be headed into a resolution to ask the City Council to institute a 1000 foot radius, at least around any AUSD school.

Here’s the map, as you can see it’s missing ASTI which is located on the College of Alameda campus:

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Staff missed a whole bunch of day care centers on the main island, only identifying two.  Here’s the list from the State licensing database:

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It might be good to resolve the “where can these facilities actually go” before heading too far down this rabbit hole.  Large sections of Alameda Point are already off limits because it’s still federal property.  It would probably inform the discussion a lot more if we’re only talking about one or two business districts able to host a cannabis related business.



  1. If there is not a similar distance & licensing provision for alcohol sales, the entire exercise is absurd.

    Comment by dave — September 7, 2017 @ 6:26 am

    • The 600 foot radius is in the state law. Reference here. And here. And here.

      There was some discussion on why the 1000 foot radius from schools would be preferable, there was a good comment by a School Board member during the public comment period about how the 1000 foot radius would better align with federal law, but I’m having a hard time recalling again what the specific alignment is.

      Comment by Lauren Do — September 7, 2017 @ 6:37 am

      • Just making the point that having strongly differing regs for the two substances is silly.

        Each is a recreational intoxicant, though cannabis has medical uses and is considerably less addictive & dangerous. Other than calming a sore throat & easing swollen eardrums caused by living with teenagers, I’m not aware of any medical benefits of alcohol.

        Comment by dave — September 7, 2017 @ 6:46 am

        • I think the 600 foot radius is consistent with the ABC review of new retail establishments. But it appears that the rule is discretionary as opposed to a hard and fast bright line. However, the ABC has an added burden of the 600 foot radius around churches and hospitals too. And a 100 foot radius from residences.

          I think the discretionary review for any cannabis related operation might not work, so having a location where those uses are allowed by right would avoid personal biases to influence the granting of a permit.

          Comment by Lauren Do — September 7, 2017 @ 6:50 am

        • Let me add that if they were WITHIN 100 feet of a hospital and delivered, there would be less of an opiate problem. How many elderly do you know that have died addicted? My poor father did.

          Comment by Retiredteacher — September 7, 2017 @ 6:53 am

        • Not aware of ANY medical benefits of alcohol? Dave you just haven’t read enough labels.
          EtOH is close to being an active ingredient in many OTC preparations. It’s also the main ingredient in Purel.

          Cannabis is only less dangerous if you are not behind the wheel, and your employer gives you a pass on your positive drug test.

          Comment by vigi — September 7, 2017 @ 10:24 am

      • Trish was hell bent on having a dispensary at the Harbor Bay Shopping Center for her personal benefit It would behoove the Harbor Bay homeowners associations to pass similar resolutions as AUSD. (BTW, second hand smoke and vape from cannabis is as toxic as tobacco).

        Comment by Alan — September 7, 2017 @ 9:42 am

      • I think it was that distribution within 1000 feet of a school is a federal offense.

        Comment by AK — September 7, 2017 @ 10:17 am

  2. With so many pressing issues and other priorities — I was disappointed that this is now a priority. I like the “go slow and phasing” approach that Marilyn and Frank suggested, and I also liked it when Frank reminded everyone of the priorities that were voted on by the council.

    Also, thanks to Malia for her comments about making sure there is enough outreach to all corners of the community before any final decisions are made.

    Comment by Karen Bey — September 7, 2017 @ 8:12 am

  3. If we are going to discuss this CC meeting further, I’d like some discussion of a better way to handle meeting overtime, especially when it includes youth having to wait. Two of our teachers were to be honored as Poets Lauriete. Their classes, jr high-sr high, spent hours of preparation including a party at the Elks with student performers. The group was told to arrive at 7 for presentation at start of CC meeting. The meeting didn’t start until close to 10 o’clock. With no obvious acknowledgement fr CC, at about 7:30-8, the group was finally sent to the Elks to party first. Finally they all had to go home to bed. Sometime after 10, the CC decided to mention that the Poets Laurete would be acknowledged at another time. I understand the importance of the workshop, but I think it is more than rude to not take the time to reset the schedule and tell the affected people asap. When the waiters include groups that are not “city business,” then perhaps a recess to take care of those items? It might have taken 15 minutes to acknowledge all those budding poets and welcome them. As it is, we have diss’ed them. Surely between us we can come up with a better way.

    Comment by Li_ — September 7, 2017 @ 11:43 am

    • Li- I couldn’t agree with you more, there was absolutely no excuse for what happened. The mayor and council (all of them) should have been aware of the timing and the importance of making staff, children and Poet Laureates wait while they droned on and on and on about a subject that wasn’t even on the regular agenda. as you stated it could have been handled so easily . This has happened more than once in the past. Maybe this council should work on getting through thier regular agenda items before they get into referrals. the regular council meeting is supposed to start at 7pm, not after 10pm.

      Comment by JohnP.trump is a racist — September 7, 2017 @ 12:22 pm

  4. How about Gettysburg Address or shorter on the speeches from the bench?

    Comment by MP — September 7, 2017 @ 12:55 pm

  5. What is the point of increasing from 600 to 1000 when people won’t be allowed to consume at the dispensary and there are plenty of homes right next to schools where people will be able to use cannibus.

    Comment by michonnekatana — September 7, 2017 @ 11:01 pm

    • Once it’s legal, it’s no longer cool.

      Comment by vigi — September 8, 2017 @ 10:20 am

  6. aside from capturing taxes, Harborside is very close. I walked there and back the first time I went for some reason I can’t recall. It’s in a great location and well run.

    Comment by MI — September 8, 2017 @ 11:33 am

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