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January 4, 2017

“No one in Alameda spoke up”

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:04 am

The Sanctuary City public comment started off…not well…with a few angry public speakers and, naturally, someone who didn’t understand how the Council Referral process actually worked.

Without one bit of irony several commenters decried the Council Referral item as a “scare tactic” by assuming that Donald Trump would make good on his campaign rhetoric while bringing up the specter of the young woman who was killed by an undocumented immigrant.

However there were several bright lights in the public comment section and this is one of them.  Reverend Michael Yoshii referenced the inaction from local government officials during the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II and how we, as a community, must take proactive steps to make sure those shameful periods in history are not repeated.

As an aside, it was noted that Alameda PD already has a policy that exists for undocumented immigrants.  If an individual who is undocumented has an encounter with the Alameda PD for something like a simple traffic stop or similar if there are no outstanding warrants then even though that individual may be undocumented the Alameda PD policy is not to report the individual to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Here’s the video, it’s definitely a must watch:

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39 Comments »

  1. Everyone has heard of Kate Steinle, RIP. Here are 100 you have never heard of. And that’s just in Ohio. Ohio victims of illegal aliens: http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

    Kentucky: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/08/illegal-alien-deported-8-times-killed-two-women-in-drunken-hit-and-run/

    The Japanese-American internment, while tragic, is an illogical comparison. Japanese-Americans have never been known for their rampant lawlessness. But hey, if you think comparing Trumo to Hitler is valid, then you cannot be reasoned with anyway.

    Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 9:17 am

    • No need to compare Trump to Hitler. Japanese interment occurred right here in the US. It was a failure of our community to speak up against xenophobia and racism. Just like efforts to create a Muslim registry (as promised by Trump) will happen if good people stand by and say nothing.

      Undocumented immigrants are also not known for “rampant lawlessness” unless, of course, the only source of your information about undocumented immigrants comes from the Daily Caller, Breitbart, or Infowars.

      Comment by Lauren Do — January 4, 2017 @ 9:31 am

      • As usual, you really don’t know California or US history, Lauren. Read some: http://www.militarymuseum.org/HistoryWWII.html. The day after Pearl Harbor, martial law was declared on the West End of Alameda. Documents at the NAS library reveal that anyone found strolling on Main Street without permission could be shot on sight.

        Exactly how was the Alameda City Council going to “speak up” in 1942 on behalf of the Japanese, with Alameda NAS a prime military target? That probably would have gotten the City Council itself dismissed in the interests of national security. On 2/23/1942, just 3 weeks after Order 9066, a Japanese submarine shelled the oil fields off Santa Barbara.. The submarine captain was a former oil tanker captain who previously frequented Santa Barbara area restaurants before Pearl Harbor and was well known to the [white] local citizenry.

        One of these days, you should really make an effort to study historical context. Take in Pearl Harbor Day or Veterans Day memorial service or something. .

        Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 10:22 am

        • War does not make enemies out of every American citizen. Your excuses for atrocities that the US Government has formally apologized for is exactly why the rest of us have to be proactive to be protective of vulnerable members of our community. Because some people will just stand by and make excuses.

          Comment by Lauren Do — January 4, 2017 @ 10:30 am

        • “Atrocities”…Don’t say that around any Holocaust survivors! It is so easy to armchair quarterback the past when you know nothing about it.

          Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 10:36 am

        • It is so easy to armchair quarterback the past when you know nothing about it.

          Indeed.

          Comment by Lauren Do — January 4, 2017 @ 10:38 am

        • “War does not make enemies out of every American citizen.” right, if they submit.

          Comment by jack — January 4, 2017 @ 11:39 am

      • Everyone here who is an illegal alien, has committed a crime already. That’s why they’re called “illegal”.

        Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 7:55 pm

    • Good lord. There were some Japanese people that committed crimes before WWII, just like there are undocumented immigrants that commit crime. Surely someone like you would have been saying in 1942 that the arrest of a single Japanese-American spy justified the internment of an entire race of people, you know, just in case. Any population of people will have criminal actors within it. Imagine if all 3rd generation Alamedans were judged entirely based on the actions of the worst members of their class.

      Comment by BMac — January 4, 2017 @ 9:53 am

      • BMac, you have obviously never been to the USS Hornet Pearl Harbor exhibit. I highly recommend it. You might even learn about the 442nd.[100th Infantry Unit]. There was no internment of “an entire race of people”.

        Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 10:31 am

        • i would dare say that vigi has never been to Manzanar. Imprisoning someone (stop calling them camps like it was a cub scout outing – they were prisons) purely because of their ethnicity, religion or country of origin is horrendous, cowardly, and not acceptable in a country that pledges freedom and justice for all. I would condemn your views vigi, but as I have said before, you serve as a remarkable role model of what we don’t want our kids to grow up to become.

          Comment by notadave — January 4, 2017 @ 1:19 pm

      • Nothing unique about internment of possible enemy saboteurs during times of war. US interred German/Americans during both the first and second WW. Japanese internment was limited to Pacific coastal inhabitants and a good number of them were not American citizens, plus Japan was sending thousands of “fire balloons” onto mainland US.

        The good Reverend should be more interested in praying for the forgiveness of Japan as a whole for the wholesale slaughter of fellow Asians the number of which made the Germans in WWII Europe look like the JV team.

        This modern day atonement/sanctuary by the Left for the sins of their fathers is on its face comical and in its nature stupid.

        Comment by jack — January 4, 2017 @ 11:32 am

        • I’m guessing he’ll pray for forgiveness for Japan as soon as you and vigi pray for the forgiveness for every white colonizer and explorer who decimated populations of indigenous people. Also Hitler. You’ll need to pray for forgiveness for that too. Also while you’re at it, how about praying for forgiveness for the two huge nuclear bombs that landed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then there’s the whole slavery thing as well. And since you’re doing that might as well pray for forgiveness for Milosevic. Then, if we’re going local again, there’s always more prayers needed for Trail of Tears as well.

          Maybe after those exhaustive prayers for the actions of people that you are tangentially related to because you look like them or have surnames that originate from the same general language, then perhaps we’ll ask the good reverend to make those prayers.

          We remember the sins of our fathers so we don’t make excuses for them, justify and rationalize them, and therefore repeat what we know now was wrong.

          Comment by Lauren Do — January 4, 2017 @ 2:31 pm

        • Well put your Doness, I’m going to make a point to include forgiveness prayers for most of what you mentioned when I do my nighti-night praying tonight .

          Oh, and by the way, they weren’t ‘huge’ nuclear bombs that landed on H/N they weren’t even nuclear they were merely ‘atomic’, we white people hadn’t quite reached the nuclear level of destruction, and only one of two bombs meets the tag “huge” and that was the one we dropped on Nagasaki (by the way, have you ever been to Nagasaki, if not I suggest you visit the city, the “Fat Boy” bomb fell right next to Urakami Cathedral, completely destroying it. My wife and I visited the Cathedral in 2012 or 13 and they had completely rebuilt the Cathedral and almost had completed all forteen beautiful marble “stations of the cross” statues…also the Cathedral had tons of Sisters there and I purchased a little holy book from them) but that’s a minor point. Anyway there were Japanese kids playing soccer in the park close by and when they spotted us they gathered around us to commit harakiri on us…not really they just wanted to test their English. Milosevic, he don’t need praying since he dead and anyway was exonerated by other white guys at the Hague;. Let’s see that leaves Hitler and the trail of tears. Hitler, they say he’s still alive somewhere in South America so he can pray for himself. The Trail…hey what do you expect. The white man Jackson needed Oklahoma because he secretly knew that there was a whole bunch oil underground.

          That leaves the question…if this place is so bad why are you here and why does everybody else want to come here?

          Comment by jack — January 4, 2017 @ 4:50 pm

        • Funny how the same people who bring up the atomic bombings never mention the Rape of Nanking [in which China estimates 300,000 victims of the invading Japanese] or the Bataan Death March, for neither of which has Japan made any reparations that I know of. Events like these were the reasons for the Manhattan Project. Both events killed more people than the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan to put a stop to Japanese aggression.
          We pray in church every year for the atomic bomb victims..however, if those bombs hadn’t been dropped, I would never have been born, since my dad was part of the US forces poised to invade Japan before the bombs made that invasion unnecessary. Without Hiroshima & Nagasaki, I wouldn’t be here to have this conversation with you.
          Why should Jack and I be praying for forgiveness for Hitler? Jack’s roots are French & mine are Czech-Austrian [Bohemian]. Our relatives were Hitler’s victims…their countries were over-run by the Nazis. You see, it’s always more complicated than just the color of your skin..

          Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 7:28 pm

  2. Corrections: Trump, not Trumo. The Ohio memorials is not only victims in Ohio, but victims of illegal aliens all over the country.

    Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 9:22 am

  3. Jesus, listening to Jack and vigi is like listening to Fox news. I’m trying to not listen to this bullshit anymore.

    Comment by John P. — January 4, 2017 @ 1:21 pm

    • Well if you can’t tell the difference between reading and listening, John, I suggest you lose your hearing aid or get a new glass prescription..better yet turn off Fox news. vigi and my bullshit is less balanced and more fair.

      Comment by jack — January 4, 2017 @ 1:52 pm

  4. Bad move legally. Sets up an unnecessary and potentially costly conflict with the US government, and exposes the City to liability if an illegal commits a violent act against a citizen. Voting for it would be irresponsible.

    Rev. Yoshii is a cool guy and we did mistreat Japanese Americans as a class although many people forget that 6,500 interned Japanese refused to swear allegiance to the US and returned to Japan after the war, and thousands of Japanese soldiers infiltrated the Philippines years before the war to prepare the way for an invasion. But that was a long time ago, we paid reparations, and learned from the experience. There really is no valid comparison to illegal immigrants.

    Lobby for a path to citizenship, but don’t join the dubious sanctuary city movement that sprung up during the Obama administration. The explanation that it “helps” law enforcement is silly. All the 200 sanctuary cities have the highest crime rates in the US.

    Comment by Captain Obvious — January 4, 2017 @ 5:31 pm

  5. (at least your children will learn more than you did…) Donate to the Bataan Legacy Project:

    WWII IN THE PHILIPPINES IS NOW PART OF THE U.S. HISTORY CURRICULUM FRAMEWORK FOR GRADE 11 IN CALIFORNIA.
    WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
    As some of you may know, BLHS [Bataan Legacy Historical Society] had been working with the California Department of Education since 2014 to include WWII in the Philippines in the history curriculum framework for California. All of our recommendations were approved by the Instructional Quality Commission and the revised curriculum framework was approved by the California State Board of Education on July 14, 2016. WWII in the Philippines will be included as part of the U.S. history curriculum framework for Grade 11 (Chapter 16). It will include The Philippine Commonwealth; the creation of the United States Army Forces in the Far East (USAFFE) comprised of Americans and a majority of Filipinos; the disruption of the timetable of the Imperial Japanese Army by the USAFFE Forces despite suffering from massive disease and starvation and fighting without any air support; the Bataan Death March and the thousands of casualties; the role of the Filipino and American guerrillas during the liberation; the American soldiers who were transported in hell ships to labor camps in Asia; the Battles of Leyte Gulf and the destruction of Manila.

    This will be the first time that the contributions of Filipinos and Americans during WWII in the Philippines will be taught in the United States and California will lead the rest of the country in teaching this seminal part of history.

    We are launching a Fundraising Drive through http://www.bataanlegacy.com, our fundraising website. (Our regular website is http://www.bataanlegacy.org) Please forward it to as many people as possible. You donation, regardless of amount, will help us move forward. Bataan Legacy Historical Society is a non-profit organization (Federal Tax ID 46-537331) and your donation can be tax-deductible to the extent allowed by the law.

    Comment by vigi — January 4, 2017 @ 7:39 pm

    • Way to go, vigi. It’s about time a little bit of the fascinating history of the Philippines, not from WWII on but from the Spanish/American war when Dewey sailed into Manila Bay (Cavite) and America accidentally became an Imperialist Country without a plan.

      Comment by jack — January 4, 2017 @ 8:10 pm

  6. Calling illegal aliens “undocumented immigrants” is like saying shoplifters are just making “undocumented purchases.”

    It’s not Sexual Assault, its undocumented consent.

    He’s not a Drug Dealer he’s an Undocumented Pharmacist.

    Bank robbers are really just undocumented customers making undocumented withdrawals.

    No welfare, food stamps, social security, in-state tuition for criminal immigrants. Punish employers w/ fines for EACH illegal immigrant employed. Hold the executives (CEO, CFO, Human Resources Director, etc) CRIMINALLY liable. We are a nation of laws, that welcome legal immigrants, not criminal immigrants. We take in more legal immigrants than any other country in the world and we are proud of it, but we do not have open borders. We reject rampant lawless immigrants. Everyone knows darn well that sanctuary status is not being sought for US citizens.

    Comment by Rising Sun — January 4, 2017 @ 8:30 pm

    • People aren’t illegal. They are undocumented.

      Comment by Lauren Do — January 5, 2017 @ 9:15 am

      • So you can repeat meaningless leftist cliches? Good for you, Snowflake. Look up the definition of “alien”. You can be a resident alien or an illegal one. An illegal alien is someone from another country who was not willing to wait their turn and follow the rules for entry. A line-cutter. Probably does that at the movie queue as well. Two council meetings ago, a woman from Central America, who did wait a long time for her turn, spoke up to complain about the illegals flouting the rules she followed to enter the US. She is against sanctuary cities. You would never post that video here, would you?

        What really makes me laugh is: you people enthusiastically embracing the unauthorized entry of immigrants into this country are the exact same people who got so bent out of shape about my unauthorized entry at City Hall West. LIberal hypocrisy at its finest!

        Comment by vigi — January 5, 2017 @ 10:51 am

        • You are just like these economic refugees. How did I not see it before?

          Comment by BMac — January 5, 2017 @ 12:19 pm

        • Will you self-deport?

          Comment by BC — January 5, 2017 @ 1:42 pm

        • I think vigi should have been deported from Alameda for her unauthorized breaking and entering into City Hall West.

          Comment by John P. — January 5, 2017 @ 1:50 pm

        • There you go again, John Pizali, libel, libel, libel. There is no breaking and entering when someone lets you in. You too, could check out a key from the Community Development Department. Everyone who uses the meeting rooms in that building has done so for decades. Stop being such a moron.

          Comment by vigi — January 6, 2017 @ 9:49 am

        • There’s no downside in illegal immigration for people like Lauren. She gets her grass cut cheaper, her house cleaned at rock bottom rates. When the Hondurans start showing up at her husband’s office for his job, watch her squeal. The day Hondurans start getting hired as green energy lobbyists is the day her ilk become nativists .

          Comment by Rising Sun — January 6, 2017 @ 1:37 pm

  7. What is missing in this discussion is that the internment of Japanese Americans was done to secure political points by the Democratic Party. They knew they were not actually a threat, otherwise they would have been removed from Hawaii, the part of the US that was actually attacked. Few were removed because Hawaii could not function without them. Logically, if they were not a threat in Hawaii, they were not a threat on the West coast. But Roosevelt wanted a scape goat after purposely keeping the commanders in Honolulu in the dark about Japanese movements so that they were not in a state of ready. It was all rather Machiavellian and showed callous disregard for lives of our sailors and the rights of our citizens. The Democratic Party still acts in this manner. After the attack on our embassy in Benghazi they jail an innocent filmmaker. After barely protected servers get hacked they expel the Russian embassy workers. What did they think the Russians are doing? Of course they are trying to hack us. That’s their job.

    Comment by Ed Hirshberg — January 4, 2017 @ 8:48 pm

    • One of several things missing from the inaccurate incomplete and revisionist historical assertions above (i.e., that the internment of Japanese Americans was done to secure political points by the Democratic Party) is that is that one of the leading advocates for internment was the *Republican* Attorney General then Governor of California. It was shameful and it was bipartisan.

      Comment by Bipartisan — January 5, 2017 @ 7:22 am

      • Note that the executive order was signed by President Roosevelt. Arguably the most powerful person on the planet at that time. This was not voted on, but an executive action. The Democrats own it for all time.

        Comment by Ed Hirshberg — January 5, 2017 @ 4:52 pm

        • and you and your ilk will own Trump for all time.

          Comment by John P. — January 5, 2017 @ 5:06 pm

        • You’re really a partisan hack, aren’t you? For a while I thought you were a person of conservative principles.

          Comment by BC — January 5, 2017 @ 5:20 pm

    • You mean those “barely protected servers” that the FBI didnt even review? Sounds like you and trump are getting your security briefings from the same twitter feeds.

      Comment by notadave — January 5, 2017 @ 9:06 am

      • Security briefings don’t mean much when they insist there are weapons of mass destruction where there are none. Trump has learned not to dismiss Wikileaks.I’ll take Julian Assange over James Clapper any day.

        It really doesn’t matter who hacked into the emails. It’s the email content that was damning to the Dems. No one is claiming that the emails weren’t written by the Dems that sent them.

        One man’s hacker is another man’s whistle-blower.

        Comment by vigi — January 6, 2017 @ 9:58 am

        • vigi, justify anything as long as it makes you feel good.

          Comment by John P. — January 6, 2017 @ 10:47 am

  8. If we as Americans did not hire undocumented workers, there most likely would be no problem. I guess I agree with Ronald Reagan, let them come here to work, issue them a work visa so they can return home when they are done. At this point if we were to send them all home who will cook, clean, cut lawns, harvest our food, work in our businesses, take care of our babies, and run our wonderful taco trucks. not me.

    Comment by John P. — January 5, 2017 @ 1:57 pm

  9. This blog entry should not be archived without noting that several Alamedans did the right thing and helped Japanese Americans preserve their businesses and property. I have had the pleasure to meet some of them over the years.

    Comment by Ed Hirshberg — January 5, 2017 @ 9:23 pm


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