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June 6, 2016

You want a revolution, I want a revelation

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:06 am

Well people, the primary is almost upon us and your absentee ballots are waiting for stuffing into the brand spanking new Registrar of Voters boxes.   There is one conveniently located in front of City Hall. It’s great and I like it better because this year I didn’t have to dig up a stamp or be worried that I hadn’t put enough postage on the envelope.

So, if you’ve been tracking my twitter timeline over in the corner it’s pretty obvious who I’m supporting for the Democratic nomination.  The same as eight years ago I’m casting my vote for Hillary Clinton.  I have to say that it’s been an…interesting…for lack of a better word primary season for both Democrats and Republicans.  I’m not even going to touch the Republican nominee discussion, but just to say that I feel like this election has been very strange in that folks that I’ve always viewed as fairly progressive have been not very shy about using 30 years of Republican talking points to attempt to explain why folks shouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton.  I simply find that strange.

Even stranger for me is this whole notion of “Bernie or Bust” which makes me very uncomfortable as a woman and a person of color.  The idea of either voting for Donald Trump or not voting for the person (Hillary Clinton) who will eventually be the Democratic nominee boggles my mind.  It feels like the “progressives” declaring their Bernie or Bust loyalties are those with the least to lose if the unthinkable is to happen and Donald Trump is elected. The logical gymnastics that conclude that Donald Trump will be such an unmitigated disaster that it will hasten the coming of a political revolution smacks of a privilege that huge swaths of the population cannot afford to stand by and become collateral for some “pure” political ideology.

I think this recent New York Magazine piece on Hillary Clinton is probably the strongest profile of a complex candidate to date. But this piece specifically resonates and, perhaps, explains the strong emotions: negative and positive about person who has been in the public eye for such a long time, refusing to simply slink away under weight of decades of criticism:

To her critics, she is Lady Macbeth, to her adherents, Joan of Arc. As a young Hillary hater, I often compared her to Darth Vader — more machine than woman, her humanity ever more shrouded by Dark Side gadgetry. These days, I think of her as General Leia: No longer a rebel princess, she has made a wry peace with her rakish mate and her controversial hair and is hard at work, mounting a campaign against the fascistic First Order.

At this point given the recent results over the weekend in the Virgin Island and Puerto Rico which is setting the backdrop for an obvious call after the first polls have closed on Tuesday, I’m not even going to get into a Hillary vs Bernie shout down.  Other than to say this: I’m not looking for a politically pure candidate.  Any candidate worth her salt will have made decisions and compromises that I fundamentally disagree with.  It is the cost of being a leader and taking action.  It’s easy, much like on our City Council, to sit back and lob truth bombs from the side lines, but the proof is in what is accomplished.  When real work needs to be done and the concerns of people on all sides of an issue must be addressed and accommodated comprise has to be made.  The result is often not pretty but the result is to make a difference given the hand you’ve been dealt as opposed to railing that the system is broken from the sidelines. To lionize a candidate that is politically pure or a political unknown because they haven’t had to make the tough decisions or been expected to be the adult in the room is to reward a lack of leadership or an inability to lead.

Anyway, regardless of who wins the Democratic primary (coughhillaryclintoncough) it’s important for progressives, not the conservatives in this audience, to vote for the Democratic nominee. In a match up between the presumptive Republican nominee and the presumptive Democratic nominee it’s not a question of the whole ridiculous “lesser evil” trope, but rather who is more qualified and ready to lead from day one.  Lesser evil assumes that there any one person out there that meets some perfect litmus test for political purity and the fact is, that person doesn’t exist.  So vote for the person you believe will be ready to lead this country on the first day in office and not who will tilt at windmills or build walls.

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81 Comments

  1. An uninspiring hack vs. a truly horrifying overgrown spoiled teenager.

    Can’t the greatest nation in the world do better than this?

    Comment by dave — June 6, 2016 @ 6:17 am

    • Here’s an Edwin Edwards bumper sticker from the early 90s updated for today: vote the for the hack, it’s important

      Comment by MP — June 6, 2016 @ 6:25 am

      • Edwards, the pride of Avoyelles Parish. I was brought up to hate him, and living in Rapides Parish I heard plenty of stories about his legendary kleptomania, but damn if he doesn’t grow on you after a while. Such a larger than life character.

        Thanks for the smile.

        Comment by dave — June 6, 2016 @ 6:38 am

        • Interesting. I’ve been as close as the Eunice area visiting friends of my aunt. When they spoke to each other (H&W), my aunt’s friends spoke mostly in French/Creole (late 1980’s).

          Comment by MP — June 6, 2016 @ 7:58 am

        • Growing up in Alexandria, I also heard him say “hold your nose and vote for me.” Of course, he was running against David Duke.

          Comment by Hale — June 7, 2016 @ 2:55 pm

        • When did you leave Alec?

          I lived in Pineville.

          Comment by dave — June 7, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

        • 1976 — but I’m flying back tomorrow for a visit!

          Comment by Hale — June 7, 2016 @ 9:38 pm

    • I don’t need my leaders to be the most likable person in the room. I just need them to be qualified and get the job done. But if people don’t find a woman who was the first commencement speaker at Wellesley, first female law partner at her firm, a two time US Senator from a massive state, and a former Secretary of State to be “uninspiring” then I’m not really sure what meets the definition of “inspiring” to people these days.

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 6:27 am

      • When your opponent is a dangerously ignorant lout and a downright cartoonish narcissist, you should expect to be polling in the 80% range. That she’s currently polling only a few points better than the Orange Whacko indicates that I’m far from alone in finding her uninspiring.

        Will I vote for her? Of course. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature will. But that doesn’t her head on Mt Rushmore. She’s not an especially compelling candidate.

        Comment by dave — June 6, 2016 @ 7:00 am

        • Or, she’s still in the midst of a contested Democratic convention and her opponent has already been declared the presumptive Republican nominee. It’s hard to be attacked from your left and right and come out as “inspiring.” Plus 30 plus years in the public eye is enough dampen enthusiasm about anyone.

          Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 7:06 am

    • This “uninspiring” characterization is exactly why I tell number one daughter that she has to be better than males. Because, as a female, society will look at her and judge her lacking even if she is better than other males. If she is average, she will be determined to be below average. If she is good, she will be determined to only be average. If she is excellent, she will be determined to be only good. To be determined excellent she will need to work twice as hard as any male compatriots.

      I just hope that she will never have to make the same speech to her daughter(s).

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 6:35 am

  2. Bernie or Bust recedes after the convention. Y2000 is too far back for some newer voters to remember, but it is a pretty easy math lesson to teach.

    Comment by MP — June 6, 2016 @ 6:47 am

  3. I’m backing Bernie until the convention goes through the process. We’ve been pressured to hand Hillary the nomination from the get go and I’m pretty sick of it. It’s like the Democratic party mucky mucks don’t care what the people have to say on the matter. This sort of elitist attitude is what people across the country are objecting to. There will still be plenty of time to vote for Hillary if I have to. I can only hope she chooses a running mate that makes the pill a little less bitter to swallow. It’s also important to send the message that the platform needs to take a giant step to the left. At present, poll after poll shows Bernie stronger against Trump than Hillary will be so, if she does get the nomination, that running mate choice better be spectacular. Even among those planning to vote for her, a large number will be holding their noses. Not exactly where we’d like to be as a nation.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — June 6, 2016 @ 7:39 am

    • I concur.

      Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — June 6, 2016 @ 3:21 pm

  4. @dave, we haven’t had a blowout since St Ronnie vs Mondale (and look what it got you). “Uninspiring”??? wtf? Perhaps from your perspective as a white man of privilege?

    @denise, Hillary has more votes and pledged delegates than Sanders. There was an election (or several), and your candidate lost. Nobody is “pressured” to vote for Hillary.

    “Bernie or Bust” is absurd, perpetuated by folks like Susan Sarandon who have nothing to lose (and also supported Nader in ’00).

    Comment by bayporter — June 6, 2016 @ 8:32 am

    • Has not lost. Is in second place at the moment. Primary Race is not over yet. Sheesh. Entitled much?

      Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — June 6, 2016 @ 3:26 pm

      • Sorry! I forgot. 2nd place is 1st loser. Is that better?

        Must be hard for you folks! Centuries of white male entitlement and privilege coming crashing down on your heads.

        Comment by bayporter — June 6, 2016 @ 3:43 pm

  5. Based on the yard signs and bumper stickers in my neighborhood, I predict Bernie will win Alameda 99%-1%. (The one house here with a Hillary sign in the front yard ALSO has a Bernie sign right next to it.)

    Or maybe Hillary fans are just more stealth? I voted for Hillary but so many of my friends are loudly for Bernie (seriously, one has like 10 different Bernie T-shirts that he rotates) that I just don’t talk about it.

    Comment by trow125 — June 6, 2016 @ 8:41 am

    • I think that’s the problem with Hillary Clinton supporters this time around, we just don’t talk about our support so it appears that Bernie Sanders has greater support overall. But as pointed out by Bayporter above, she has more votes and more pledged delegates so even though we may not sport out Hillary Clinton gear en masse, the support is coming in the form of votes and, eventually, the nomination and presidency.

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 8:46 am

      • I was relieved to see the results of that Open California exit poll you Tweeted earlier today (I participated in that poll, BTW). Looks like Hillary is leading by a considerable margin among early voters.

        Comment by trow125 — June 6, 2016 @ 8:54 am

  6. There are great differences between Bernie and Hillary, important ones. Bill Clinton for all his supposed skill as a compromiser, actually sold us out. NAFTA for starters. Thanks to Bernie for pushing Hillary to reject TTP. The Clinton Prison Reform Bill and Welfare Reform were terrible for the poor , particularly African Americans. “Super predators”? Her position on gay marriage changed, just like Obama. I don’t care about the past on that. I’m just relieved she finally figured out how to fight back against Trump instead of getting Swift Boated.

    She is a bit hawkish, but has also withstood twenty five years being trashed by partisan hacks for every kind of crazy bullshit. Benghazi ! Benghazi !

    I cringe at Bernie’s use of the word revolution. I’m not enough of a numbers person to fault him for lack of details on delivering single payer health care, but his platform seems vague.

    Qualified candidates for the job of president don’t grow on trees so I fault the public for the general lack of pragmatism as much as Hillary for being some kind of uber-hypocrite. On single payer, Hillary has come out saying it won’t ever happen, but I’m happy to get her elected and then keep pushing her to change on that. Really affordable health care without the middle men is probably as important as anything along with responsible climate policy.

    Finally, I think it disingenuous for Bill Clinton to have taken credit for inheriting a good economy, even if his VP invented the Internets which ushered in much of that new found wealth. By the same token I don’t blame W for the initial down turn as Bill got to duck out just as that bubble burst, but Bush did go on to plunder the surplus with his trillion dollar wars. Hillary should not assume we are all sanguine about the new two for one deal, with Former President Bubba being the economy Tzar. Am I wrong, or was it Bill Clinton who presided over repeal of Glass-Steagall ? I’d prefer he stick to picking the White House China. Go Bernie ! until Wednesday.

    Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 8:48 am

    • Without wading into the details of it or having watched everything, I was fairly impressed with the way Hillary handled the Benghazi hearings. On health care, if nothing else, I trust that she has a good understanding of a (very) politically and economically complex problem. On 2 for 1, Hilliam/Billary, I foresee construction, if necessary, of a dog house out by Michelle Obama’s pea patch.

      Comment by MP — June 6, 2016 @ 9:13 am

  7. Lauren, I don’t agree with you a lot of the time…..but, you are 100% correct on this post….Vote Hillary!!!!

    Comment by J.E.A. — June 6, 2016 @ 9:04 am

  8. So since all politics are local, let me take a swipe at a local “politican” In the last few weeks I have seen numerous yard signs for Amber Childress pop up on public land throughout west Alameda. I dont know who she is, I dont know what her values are, but no way will she get my support if she doesn’t even know better than to do that.

    Comment by notadave — June 6, 2016 @ 9:16 am

    • Has the city or AUSD been notified?

      Comment by MP — June 6, 2016 @ 10:07 am

    • There are several signs for Bernie on public property as well. Perhaps his local supporters can pick them up after tomorrow instead of coming up with outlandish conspiracy theories as @vigi seems to revel in.

      Comment by bayporter — June 6, 2016 @ 10:54 am

    • She is a candidate for Alameda COUNTY Board of Education, District 2 that includes Alameda city and Oakland. The same thing is happening for a judge race with Jackson signs popping up on public property. City workers eventually get the signs down, especially those in medians. The tougher ones are signs on fences for private property.

      Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2016 @ 9:25 pm

  9. The polling among registered Democrats gives Hillary an advantage in California. The challenge for the pollsters is predicting how many of the NPPs (No Party Preference) voters will actually took the time to get a Democratic ballot and then actually vote. The larger the turnout of these voters the closer Bernie will get to Hillary.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2016 @ 9:16 am

  10. Be sure to tell your daughters this: Hillary may have been Secretary of State, but she did a hack job of it. She never would have become Secretary of State of Obama hadn’t owed it to her for handing him the nomination. She would never have become Senator from New York if she wasn’t the wife of a former 2-term President. She wouldn’t be the Democratic front-runner now if Bill Clinton wasn’t still alive to grease the skids for her. A self-made woman she is NOT. I wouldn’t hold her up to my daughters as a role model.

    I’m voting for Bernie, because as neither a Democrat nor a Republican, I can. A vote for Bernie sends a message; a vote for Hillary says you want to support the Washington establishment. People who say they want “single payer” have never experienced the VA system. But Bernie has one unique message that would change the cost of health care in this country= He wants price controls on pharmaceuticals. [As other countries have]. That single change would profoundly decrease the cost of US health care and both providers & patients support it.

    Comment by vigi — June 6, 2016 @ 9:25 am

    • Comparison of democratic candidates prescription drug plans.

      Hillary may have been Secretary of State, but she did a hack job of it. She never would have become Secretary of State of Obama hadn’t owed it to her for handing him the nomination. She would never have become Senator from New York if she wasn’t the wife of a former 2-term President. She wouldn’t be the Democratic front-runner now if Bill Clinton wasn’t still alive to grease the skids for her.

      Evidence A of proof that women can also be misogynists. I literally don’t know what to say to a person that actually believes that a smart and capable woman needed men to elevate her to where she is now.

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 9:35 am

    • Ironic that the good doctor does not understand the difference between single-payer and government provided healthcare.
      VA is not the reference here. Medicare would be. How do you like your Medicare vigi?

      Comment by BMac — June 6, 2016 @ 11:11 am

      • Having seen you speak at meetings, BMac, I am fairly confident you don’t know what you are talking about. I doubt you get your health care from either the VA or Medicare. And it’s news to me if you are a health care provider who has ever been reimbursed by Medicare, any other insurance company, or been paid by the VA. So what is Your point?

        Comment by vigi — June 6, 2016 @ 2:27 pm

  11. As a person of color (speckled) I say this country deserves Trump.

    Comment by jack — June 6, 2016 @ 9:27 am

  12. I literally don’t know what to say to a woman blogger who trashes our woman mayor Trish Herrera Spencer, a very smart and very capable woman, all the time. Blogging Bayport Alameda has always been Evidence #1 that women can also be misogynists. Who was that other person you absolutely cannot stand–Ann Marie Gallant? Like her or hate her, she is also an accomplished, very smart, and capable woman.

    Signed Vigi–a woman with 2 more doctorates than you have..Maybe that makes me smart and capable, but I don’t know anymore. Smart and capable seems to be the new stupid in your blog.

    Comment by vigi — June 6, 2016 @ 9:53 am

    • Are you suggesting that I should support Trish Spencer and Ann Marie Gallant blindly because they are women? That’s ridiculous. The fact that I hold them accountable for their actions and in Trish Spencer’s case, her non actions, means that I expect them to function exactly the way that their male counterparts should and that they should be criticized and taken to task when they make dumbass decisions.

      Ann Marie Gallant may be smart, but in the end wasn’t capable. The jury is still out on whether Trish Spencer will prove herself to be either.

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 10:00 am

      • No. But you started this by suggesting that if I didn’t support Hillary, I must be a misogynist. I gave my reasons. Hillary has not outlined any plan which could be viewed as an original thought. She has even said she wants to go back to the way things were when her husband was president. That fits most definitions of riding on coat-tails.

        You claim to be able to hold Gallant & Spencer accountable, yet you support Hillary blindly, without holding her accountable for any of her mistakes. That’s ridiculous!

        Monica Lewinsky for vice-president.

        Comment by vigi — June 6, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

        • No correlation to Hillary Clinton, who stood by her achievements and mistakes. Ann Marie Gallant sues the City, loses, owes the city over $300K in attorneys fees, feeling entitled to the City Manager job that she never submitted an application. Trish Spencer is more like Bernie. She over promises and under delivers, not to mention just plain incompetent.

          Comment by Cindy — June 6, 2016 @ 3:20 pm

        • When you say that an accomplished woman like Hillary Clinton is only where she is because she married well and she was handed the Secretary of Stateship by a man then you are a misogynist.

          Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 3:24 pm

        • Those are your words. You are painting gender into the picture where it is irrelevant. If the genders were reversed..if Hillary had been the 2-term president and it was Bill now running on his wife’s record, I would say the same thing. Hillary was handed the Secretariat of State by the PERSON she conceded the nomination to. That Obama happens to be male is irrelevant. Quid pro quo is quid pro quo.

          Judge Persky is on the Santa Clara ballot today. If you really want to fight misogyny, why don’t you sign the petition to remove Judge Aaron Persky from office and post a link to it on this fine blog of yours? Think globally, act locally.

          Comment by vigi — June 7, 2016 @ 9:18 am

    • Smart and capable doesn’t break into gov. offices to snoop on computers.

      Comment by notadave — June 6, 2016 @ 10:01 am

      • neither did I, libtard..

        Comment by vigi — June 6, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

  13. A good friend of mine in his thirties told me he is voting for Bernie because he is mired in student debt and “Bernie says he is going to take care of that.” For him? How does that work? How do all the rest of the “sweeping away of the problems” work? No answer to those questions, except he is going to either (1) Make it all happen due to his great enthusiasm and force of will, in spite of the recalcitrant Republicans, or, if (2) Trump gets elected, Bernie’s loyal followers will create a social revolution against the status quo and the “people” will be heard. To which, I say, Un-hunh, sigh, and turn my years of reality training and experience away.
    It does seem to me that one of the greatest hallmarks of our Democracy is that we achieve peaceful transition of power, even when party orientation changes. The yearning for a social revolution is accomplished how? I tend to like the plan and the details. Oh, I am voting for Hillary.

    Comment by Kate Quick — June 6, 2016 @ 11:12 am

    • One of the reasons I’m voting Hillary after supporting Obama in 2008 is because of the obstructionism Obama faced from the GOP Congress. I don’t think any of Bernie’s pie in the sky fantasies about free college, etc. would come to pass with our current Congress, and due to gerrymandering, chances of a Democratically controlled legislature — especially a LIBERAL Democratic legislature — are slim to none. Even Bernie supporter Robert Reich said, “Hillary is the best candidate for the system we have – Bernie is the best candidate for the system we SHOULD have.” That said, I would love it if the young Bernie supporters get involved in down-ticket races in 2018 and try to elect some very progressive candidates to state legislatures and Congress.

      Comment by trow125 — June 6, 2016 @ 1:48 pm

      • If either of the Dem’s are elected President, nothing will get done, because the Rep’s will still control Congress and will stonewall any of the Dem’s initiatives. So a non-starter to say elect HRC if you want to see an agenda advanced. Ain’t gonna happen.

        Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — June 6, 2016 @ 3:40 pm

        • I feel she’s better qualified on foreign policy and will at least appoint decent Supreme Court nominees (and the GOP can’t stonewall forever with a 4-4 split on the court).

          Comment by trow125 — June 6, 2016 @ 6:22 pm

  14. Interestingly (or not) all the “Bernie or Bust” people I’ve encountered happen to be white and male. Most of the women I know are “I’ll vote for Bernie in the primary, and Hillary in the general election.” They won’t stay home and hand the election to Trump. I hope most of the Bernie Bros come around to that view by November.

    Comment by Kristen — June 6, 2016 @ 11:51 am

  15. Excellent post. I’ll be voting for Bernie tomorrow. There is no doubt Hillary has faced and continues to face lots of sexism, ignorance and general vitriol in her time in public life. I feel bad for her. She is definitely smart, experienced and one of the best prepared people for the job that I can think of.
    Still, for me, I worry that her decades of being in and around power and money have corrupted her. Nobody is immune to being corrupted by those two forces and it can’t help but influence how she thinks about the country’s and the world’s problems. It is inherent that in order to reach where she has reached and gain the experience she has that prepares her for the job, are the exact things that put someone out of touch with some of those that most need her help. It is a Catch 22. Ironically, lots of Bernie fans would be more likely to vote for 1992 Hillary than 2016 Hillary.
    She is also more hawkish and interventionist than I would prefer.

    I think this primary process of course highlights the differences, and our perception of the process cannot help but be colored by who you are and where you sit. People who are “progressive” and embrace the framing and language of right wing radio attacks on Hillary give permission to Hillary supporters to not have to reflect on genuine weaknesses of their candidate. On the other hand, it is damn near impossible to separate the legitimate policy critiques from the critics that embrace misogyny and conspiracy theories to make their case. Oh well, democracy is messy and you can’t expect the electorate to be excellently informed or consistent. People get to vote for who they want, good or bad.

    Comment by BMac — June 6, 2016 @ 11:59 am

    • 15. Well said. I heard a radio interview with some author, maybe a sociologist, about the corrupting influence of power and wealth. It is not simply a clever cliche about absolute power corrupting absolutely. Seems to be bolstered by scientific evidence, that human nature makes all of us susceptible to having our altruistic principles corrupted as we gain influence.

      Hillary’s email server has been of little consequence to me, until the latest round where, if reports are correct, she and her staff were warned a number of times that her private server was a breach of protocol. I’m pretty sure if she thought it was a risk to national security she would have done something to correct that situation. But not having taken action after repeated warnings, if they occurred, is nothing short of hubris. Not a fatal flaw, but also fits an unfortunate pattern which has nothing to do with gender. Has to do with entitlement, as in “It’s my turn”. Having to weather Bernie is just karmic.

      Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 2:02 pm

    • Bmac,

      Or Brian , your an idiot. Try to stay off the internet for 30 days and plan a future you future receipient of government aid. I can’t do it, so Bernie do it for me !

      Lol

      Comment by Master Blaster — June 6, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

      • *you’re an idiot

        Comment by BMac — June 6, 2016 @ 3:29 pm

    • When asked at the last debate to name one instance of where Clinton was influenced by Wall Street, Sanders offered his (tired oft repeated) stump speech as response, with ZERO specifics.

      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-clinton-wall-street-answer

      Comment by bayporter — June 6, 2016 @ 3:48 pm

  16. 6
    “…qualified candidates for the job of president don’t grow on trees…”

    Comment by Jack — June 6, 2016 @ 5:27 pm

    • uh-huh…. perhaps you’d like to point out they can be found under a common rock like Trump?

      Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 6:01 pm

  17. Listening to the news….according to the AP….Hillary just reached the magic number….

    Comment by J.E.A. — June 6, 2016 @ 5:29 pm

  18. which makes me very uncomfortable as a woman and a person of color

    Misogynist and racist

    Comment by Jack — June 6, 2016 @ 6:00 pm

    • Aww, does the discomfort of a female person of color trample all over your white male privilege?

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 6:14 pm

      • Yeah, kinda makes me think we shouldn’t have gotten involved in the Vietnam war and sacrificed 50k Amis to bring over here what we were fighting against over there.

        Comment by Jack — June 6, 2016 @ 6:47 pm

  19. J.E.A., I guess Californians don’t have to vote now. Whoopee!

    How desperate. Really feeds the narrative about Clinton “It’s my turn!”

    Don’t pop the champagne just yet. Her super delegate “majority” is a greater number than the delta in regular delegates between her and Sanders, which by tomorrow may well be even SMALLER. Gee you think that’s why they couldn’t wait ? If the regular delegates will obviously put her over the top, as the unbiased media keep reassuring us is inevitable, then why not wait and let those chips fall ? The optics would certainly be better, but now you will have Bernie or Bust people furious and out to drag the Democratic campaign in the mud for as long as possible. Fucking stupid move Dems.

    Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 6:21 pm

    • Blame the AP for polling the super delegates. According to other reports, the Clinton campaign was asking super delegates that had yet to announce to hold off until after Tuesday’s voting had completed. Someone was super eager to “break” some news the way that they did when they polled the Republican delegates that put Trump over into presumptive nominee territory.

      Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2016 @ 6:56 pm

      • thanks Lauren. I’ve calmed down now, almost. The super delegates could have told AP to piss off.

        Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 7:39 pm

    • If the Dems are so stupid perhaps Bernie should have run as an independent……because that is what he is….oh, and the Bernie or Bust people are idiots…if you’re not for their candidate they insult, lie and are the most hostile people I’ve ever come across….

      Comment by J.E.A. — June 6, 2016 @ 9:55 pm

      • J.E.A., you are right. Maybe it is stupid to allow Bernie to run in the Democratic primary. I have no problem with Democrats closing their primary, but why is it open ? Since the Democratic Party seems pretty risk averse one might conclude it is their careful calculation that their candidates will benefit more often than not. I certainly don’t credit the party with any high minded altruistic motives like promoting democracy. In fact, I’ve read a FB post about poll workers in Orange County being instructed to hand out provisional ballots to independents requesting Democratic ballots, which is totally incorrect. I mailed in my request for a Democratic absentee ballot and have not received one. I sure hope when I surrender my independent absentee ballot at the polling place that I am not handed provisonal ballot. Not being a conspiracy freak, I am not pointing fingers about where my mail ballot is, but I have wondered about that.

        There are just as many stupid and rude Hillary supporters as Bernie or Bust people. I’ve been reading their trolling attack comments here on the Internets. No higher ground for anybody there. The grasping, cloying desperate nature of this latest development has bad optics for Dems. I have no proof AP leans one way or the other, but by goosing the news cycle with this “revelation” they are not actually creating news, just jumping the shark and switching the emphasis. It is unethical manipulation with obvious partisan consequences.

        I didn’t realize AP was behind the same “revelation” in the Dakotas which anointed Heir Trump der vinner of the Racist, ‘er Republican Party. It figures that Trump’s people weren’t bright enough to do that on their own, but they wasted no time trotting them all out on stage for a photo op. I was relieved that their nominating process was instantly paired down to a one demagogue race with the elimination of lyin’ Ted.

        The Democratic debate schedule revealed blatantly biased. “It’s my turn, damn it !” Maybe it is her turn. I hope so. But all in good time.

        Comment by MI — June 7, 2016 @ 9:42 am

        • MI If you are actually Registered as an Independent (American Independent Party) this is an actual Party and has a closed Primary. You will not be given a Democratic Ballot as per the rules of the AIP. If you are Registered No Party Preference you can request a Democratic Ballot.

          Comment by frank — June 7, 2016 @ 10:12 am

        • The Election Integrity Project recommends turning in your absentee ballot and voting in person to help prevent voter fraud. Provisional ballots are given to: Vote-by-mail voters who appear in person. In this instance, the voter’s name is on the polling place roster and the roster notes the voter requested a vote-by-mail ballot. However, the voter states they didn’t receive the ballot, lost the ballot, or spoiled the ballot and doesn’t have it with them. After the voter casts a provisional ballot, the elections official will check the records to ensure that the voter did not cast their vote-by-mail ballot. If this is the case and the voter’s signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on the voter’s registration card, then the voter’s provisional ballot will be counted. (Elections Code sections 3016, 14310(f), 15350, 15100 et seq.) If the voter did vote and return their vote-by-mail ballot before the close of polls on Election Day, then the vote-by-mail ballot will be counted and the provisional ballot will not be counted. If the voter did vote and return their vote-by-mail ballot but failed to sign the vote-by-mail ballot envelope, then the voter’s provisional ballot will be counted, provided they complied with the instructions associated with the provisional ballot.

          (from http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/provisional-voting/)

          Comment by vigi — June 7, 2016 @ 1:45 pm

        • Look at it this way….if Bernie does not win tonight….. all his supporters can complain about voter suppression ….they are very good at that even though they knew the rules going in……blame the AP..

          Comment by J.E.A. — June 7, 2016 @ 3:41 pm

  20. I was really feeling good about Hillary after watching her “foreign policy” speech about Trump but now not so much.

    Comment by MI — June 6, 2016 @ 6:26 pm

  21. That she’s currently polling only a few points better than the Orange Whacko indicates that I’m far from alone in finding her uninspiring.
    Will I vote for her? Of course. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature will. But that doesn’t her head on Mt Rushmore. She’s not an especially compelling candidate.

    Hey dave, Hillary? I’ve got about a third of a Van Winkle 20 waiting for a sipping/talking. You know where I live. Tell me when you want to discuss room temperature.

    Comment by Jack — June 6, 2016 @ 8:34 pm

    • Jack, maybe you can explain to me what her slogan “Fighting for us” means. Since she is the establishment candidate, what exactly is Hillary fighting? And who are “us”?

      Comment by vigi — June 7, 2016 @ 9:22 am

  22. As an aside, this is the first election I’ve followed on Twitter at all. It can be entertaining, a little, but the cream rarely rises to the top. Schoolyard stuff, mostly. On the other hand, you can hardly ignore it.

    Comment by MP — June 7, 2016 @ 2:13 pm

  23. Hillary crushes Trump, I go to bed at 9:pm on election night. just like the last time Obama ran.

    Comment by John P. — June 7, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

    • Man, I hope you’re right about that.

      I’m quite lukewarm on Hillary but the thought of President Trump is horrifying.

      Comment by dave — June 7, 2016 @ 5:01 pm

    • Easy. Think how much fun her media vendors will have will Trump clips

      Comment by MP — June 7, 2016 @ 5:50 pm

  24. 92,000 VBM tallied and results release at 8:08. Hillary leads in Alameda county with 61,867 votes to Bernie 39,755 votes.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 7, 2016 @ 8:14 pm

  25. 2:13am update Hillary 107,102 Bernie 91,324 Ballot box voting 45, 235 for Hillary and 47,206 So bottom line Hillary wins by 19000+ in early voting and Bernie wins by 2,000 at the ballot box. My educated guess that there will be an additional 100,000+ tallied in the coming days for those VBM who walked their ballots to the polls. Those votes probably break closer to 50/50 so the margin of 15,000 is likely not to change.

    In the Superior Court race, Barbara Thomas got 48% with Scott Jackson getting 28.2%. So it looks like a November runoff for those two.

    And in an upset, it is Amber Childress leading by 800 votes over Marlon McWilson for Alameda County Board of Education Trustee District 2 but the uncounted VBM will make this one a tight one.

    Finally, Jim Oddie is in 11th place for the 10 person Alameda County Democratic Central Committee race. Interestingly, the chairperson Robin Torello is in the 10th place which maybe Bernie voters who are not happy with Democratic party establishment.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 8, 2016 @ 3:54 am


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