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April 11, 2016

Rental lot reuse

Filed under: Alameda — Lauren Do @ 6:01 am

The car rental lot on Lincoln next to the Aria Market just off of Webster Street is getting a considerable makeover. It’s nice to see that Webster Street is getting some attention in the development department.  There is one thing that are great about this project.  It’s taking what is essentially a well placed parking lot and converting it into a mixed used building with residential over retail.   Those things are exciting however the design is just, meh.

Or rather the designs are just meh, because they’re offering two equally meh options for the Planning Board’s consideration.  Of the two I like Option A better:

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The residential units themselves are quite large, both are four bedrooms and are more than 1500 square feet in space.  The development will provide 16 parking spaces and 24 bicycle parking spaces (mixture of long and short term).  Three retail spaces on the ground floor.

This is a pretty huge lot though, here’s the Google Street View:

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All in all, good place for a development very near transit lines, the facade could be a little more inspired, but this is Alameda so that fact that we’re not getting faux historical is an improvement.

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14 Comments »

  1. the side views of a & b (the side facing the driveway?) have a touch of concrete block detention facility in them

    Comment by MP — April 11, 2016 @ 7:19 am

  2. I like the concept of mixed use going into this spot, but the design needs a lot of work before it gets approved. The Aria building is quite distinct and I am sure has some historical context. There are also some not too shabby victorians on the other side as well. Plunking either of the designs above in between that will detract from both sides. At the very least they need to come up with a pitched roof design to carry over some of the themes.

    Comment by notadave — April 11, 2016 @ 9:28 am

  3. The number one complaint I hear about the new residential development complexes (ok maybe 2nd after the prices) is that the new buildings “All look the same”.

    But then when someone wants to put in a new one-off building, the number one complaint (ok maybe after “BUT WHAT ABOUT PARKING!”) is that the new building “doesn’t look like all the surrounding buildings”.

    What gives?

    My opinion is “who cares?” As much as Alamedans are proud of their city, the corner of Lincoln and Webster is in no way comparable to Alamo Square or the like. I get that the Aria Building is old and has some historic significance, but it’s not like they are proposing to tear it down. Actually the back of the Aria building is pretty dilapidated, and if this new building blocks those views, it will be an improvement.

    If we are going to push for faux-retro everywhere, can’t we get something cool like this development in Austin?

    http://retrorenovation.com/2016/04/04/starlight-village-midcentury-modern-austin/

    Comment by brock — April 11, 2016 @ 9:47 am

  4. this is 2016, so we have quit building Victorians. I have no big problem with this building, I’m sure the planning board will be making some changes to help it fit in with the existing buildings. What I do like is the nice large apartments near shopping and transit. Bike and car parking, off street.

    Comment by John P. — April 11, 2016 @ 10:14 am

  5. My predictions for Planning Board:

    1. You don’t have to make it “fit in” w/ the Victorians around it, but you gotta make it look better than this pile.

    2. WTF w/ the 4 bedroom units? Make them smaller and make more of them.

    If the purpose of the proposal of two large units instead of 4 smaller ones is because the parking requirements are the same for a large unit and a small one, then PB needs to work with them on the parking. It’s not like these won’t have 4 adults in them whether they are one big unit w/ roommates or two smaller units.

    Comment by BMac — April 11, 2016 @ 10:45 am

  6. I like option A better, and some people like 4 bedroom units, like families with 3 kids. In Alameda, you will rarely find something everyone likes.

    I believe the 2nd floor of the Aria building is empty…they have plastic over inside of the windows like they started remodeling the units years ago and never finished.

    brock, I like starlight village but I doubt many in Alameda would. It reminds me of Palm Springs or Alameda South Shore.

    Comment by joelsf — April 11, 2016 @ 11:01 am

    • Obviously Palm Springs is great, but In my opinion, Alameda South Shore should get more love. I’ve seen amazing things done with tasteful restorations of 50s-60s homes.

      Somehow I wound up in a 1920s craftsman though. The older houses are smaller, thus closer to my budget. I’d love to have a big garage.

      Comment by brock — April 11, 2016 @ 11:51 am

      • Brock,
        I thought you would like these houses. I would love something like this, but I don’t know if people in Alameda would go for it. They are probably something you would see more in Walnut Creek or in Oakland Hills. https://www.bluhomes.com/breeze

        Comment by joelsf — April 25, 2016 @ 5:05 pm

        • Pre-fab modular homes with a base price of $1.3 Million? [Not including land price). How would these perch on the angular lots in the Oakland Hills?

          Comment by vigi — April 27, 2016 @ 11:12 am

  7. Something to consider is the street lighting in the adjacent area. The new halogens would not go well with the larger window designs.

    Comment by frank — April 11, 2016 @ 11:18 am

  8. BMac, I think these apart.s may be affordable units.

    Comment by John P. — April 11, 2016 @ 11:19 am

    • I didn’t notice that when I read through the item last week (though I didn’t give it a lot of time). Perhaps if they split the units and do four instead of two they could make one of them moderate income.

      Comment by BMac — April 11, 2016 @ 12:33 pm

  9. Also: too short! 😉

    Comment by BMac — April 11, 2016 @ 12:34 pm

    • 3 or 4 stories would be nice.

      Comment by joelsf — April 11, 2016 @ 4:30 pm


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