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May 29, 2015

A series of tubes

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Point, City Council, Transportation — Lauren Do @ 6:09 am

Folks that are worried about traffic impacts like to quote Eugenie Thomson’s analysis that highlighted (and took out of context) one data point from the Alameda Point documents with regard to the one car in the Tube thing. The point of the Eugenie Thomson piece is to then glom on to this point to somehow render the complete traffic study invalid.

Despite staff, and by staff I mean Andrew Thomas, repeatedly attempting to correct that misconception, it still is out there in the Alameda universe as though it has some sort of weight or value. At last week’s City Council meeting, Frank Matarrese brought this up during the Site A discussion thusly:

The issue that keeps popping up is that there is only going to be one additional car going through the tube at peak time and whether or not that’s true or not, I don’t think it’s true, but we have to get some numbers that are bona fide to say what it’s like today so that we can project it out, what we have to mitigate as these units become populated.

Marilyn Ezzy-Ashcraft then asked staff to come up to explain this oft quoted factoid and Jennifer Ott came up to bat and in her matter of fact way explained what the traffic study said in plain language:

The Alameda Point Environmental Impact Report studied, I think, 32 intersections, the impacts to 32 intersections in Alameda and a number in Oakland as well and what it showed was that there will be, with or without Alameda Point, there are going to be significant impacts given all the regional growth.  Alameda Point adds their impacts that Alameda Point contributes to. There are significant impacts, no one is saying that there is one, that Alameda Point only generates one car, that’s just not right.

Absolutely it will be generating cars, what happens is, what that person…taking data what it shows is that it confirms in a lot of ways what we know already which is that the tube are essentially reaching capacity now.  When you add more cars what ends up happening — this is what you see in the analysis that was done — is when you add more cars on the West End people that are driving from the middle of the island or the East End don’t go into the tubes anymore the tubes are at capacity.  It’s what we would all do intuitively, they would now then go to intersections on the East End so where you actually see a lot of the impacts on the traffic in the traffic impact analysis is on the East End around the Park Street Bridge, around the other crossings because people who would be driving to into the tubes today, let’s say, as the regional growth occurs and as other growth occurs in Alameda the tubes are going to reach capacity.  What the model is saying is that your tubes only have so much traffic that can go in there so what you see is that you have spreading of traffic and traffic that’s diverting to other ends of the island. [emphasis added]


  1. Why don’t planners just state it plainly? More development means more tax money but more people =more traffic. More traffic = congestion on an island. This is the status quo for anyone who drives. Ten minutes to get out of Alameda in any direction- more on Saturday and Sunday. The idea of city staff is to force changes in the way we commute and drive.

    Comment by Breathless — May 29, 2015 @ 6:28 am

  2. 90% of the time the people complaining about traffic are the same people complaining about housing prices. Well let’s see:

    1. The bay area is a pretty beautiful place to live
    2. There is lots to do.
    3. Amazing experience opportunities for your kids
    4. Depending on school district lots of education opportunities (Alameda being pretty high on this one)
    5. Lot’s of jobs
    6. yummy food, to make at home and eat out
    7. wine and spirits
    8. the east bay pretty much has the pulse of what is at the forefront of everything right now
    9. weather
    10. this list could be endless.

    So you want to live where everyone else wants to live and you want to drive. Suck it up. There is going to be more traffic and you can’t deny others the right to want to be here too unless you have the funds to stop them. So if you want less traffic your 2 bedroom/1 bath house is going to be two million dollars. You don’t get to have it both ways, you are not a prince/princess even though your mommy told you so.

    Sorry but tired of the selfish thinking they should get a decent price on a house and yank up the bridge so no one else can come in.

    Comment by stuck in the tube (but it's ok!) — May 29, 2015 @ 6:51 am

  3. This group has been trying to do it for years. First with CCR’s, then with Measure A, and now the white sheets are out in full force trying to bully people from sharing their views.

    Comment by Karen Bey — May 29, 2015 @ 7:19 am

  4. Please clarify what you mean by “white sheets.” It *seems* to be a reference to the Ku Klux Klan.

    Comment by dave — May 29, 2015 @ 7:25 am

  5. Attacking someone for their views while hiding behind a mask – and calling it courage!

    Comment by Karen Bey — May 29, 2015 @ 7:46 am

  6. Your credibility would be enhanced by switching to a less inflammatory metaphor.

    Comment by dave — May 29, 2015 @ 7:51 am

  7. I’ve lived in this town for over 35 years, and have experienced them up close and personal. I don’t appreciate someone attacking me with mis-truths while hiding behind a white sheet and then calling it courageous. If my metaphor offends you — sorry, but that’s how it feels!

    Comment by Karen Bey — May 29, 2015 @ 7:57 am

  8. nice try Dave, we all know exactly what Karen means. I would agree with her, there is an old power structure here in Alameda and it has always tried to keep certain people out. It seems to be losing ground slowly and attacks people who want to move forward. Karen you need not waste your time trying to “clarify” things to Dave.

    Comment by John P. — May 29, 2015 @ 8:08 am

  9. I like the idea of moving all the car traffic to one of the Tubes and reserving the other for bikes, car pools, and public transit.

    Comment by Jack Mingo — May 29, 2015 @ 8:26 am

  10. To me, between Thomson’s minipulated statement and staff the whole thing remains a bit muddled. Eugenie twisted something, but Jennifer didn’t make some stark clarification which will set folks at ease who are up in arms because of traffic. It’s going to get worse, and worse faster with development, but I agree with #2 above. I’m privileged if you want to call it that because my work requires a vehicle, so I have an excuse not to take transit but that guarantees I’ll be sitting in traffic too. Breathless, ten whole minutes to get on or off the island. OMG! In honesty the Northern corridor is going to get interesting if tube capacity is met with diversion because of all the approved projects east of the Point which will come on line in a relatively short period. The trouble with east bound Clement and Blanding is not the number of cars but how poorly they handle left turns to the bridge. Too few per light change but not enough width for good mitigation. Finally got a left turn light on Clement northbound on Park street. There has been width for that so it’s about ten years late. I would never approach Park Street from west end any lower to the bridge than Lincoln.

    For the veracity of Thomson’s opinions in general, I always go back to Berkeley Bowl which she claimed would have negative impact where there really is very little noticeable impact other than jobs and some sales taxes for non-food, a a grocery store in a neighborhood which had nothing.

    Comment by MI — May 29, 2015 @ 8:56 am

  11. Civil discourse, democratic participation, and the health of the Alameda community are damaged when/if people are “bullied from sharing their views.”

    Civil discourse, democratic participation, and the health of the Alameda community are also damaged when a wide range of people people with diverse and/or dissenting views (e.g., about the tradeoffs involved with traffic and the pace and nature of development) are all lumped together as one “group” and are called “white sheets” as in comments 3 and 7 above.

    Trying to lump a large group of people together and calling them all “white sheets” is highly irresponsible and wrong.

    Comment by Rob S. — May 29, 2015 @ 9:23 am

  12. I have no idea what Karen means, John P. How is Measure A “bullying people from sharing their views”? It was an initiative put to the people’s vote on the ballot. It passed. It stopped the wholesale slaughter of classic old homes on this island, without which many current residents would not have been attracted to living here.

    Apparently not everyone complains about the Posey Tube. It gets 4 stars on Yelp.

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 9:38 am

  13. By Karen’s definition anyone posting comments under anything other than their official Passport name is hiding behind a white sheet. Lots of white sheets on this blog.

    Comment by jack — May 29, 2015 @ 9:46 am

  14. Jack, I agree with you on one thing, “lots of white sheets on this blog”.

    Comment by John P. — May 29, 2015 @ 9:52 am

  15. If Karen thinks that some of the vitirol being tossed her way is race based, she has every right to express her feeling about how she feels she is being treated. I don’t actually know Karen, or what her backround is, but using the “white sheet” reference leads me to believe that she sees some of the attacks on her or her positions race based.

    As a white kid growing up in East Oakland, Alameda was always percieved in my neighborhood as having a strong anti-black and anti-Hispanic vibe. It was more than obvious when I was a kid. I’m about 50 now. I think that has improved, but I still feel the race undercurrent when talking about certain types of development in Alameda.

    Comment by JohnB — May 29, 2015 @ 10:13 am

  16. Is comment 14 is a joke? If it is, it is extremely offensive on more than one level. If it isn’t, I think that could mean the commentator really believes 50.13% of people who voted in last November’s mayoral election are “white sheets.” That’s 10,488 people.

    Comment by Rob S. — May 29, 2015 @ 10:23 am

  17. Karen and John, I am incredibly disappointed in you comparing people who are concerned about the impact of development to the KKK. At this point, I’m agnostic on development. I know that the point has to be developed, but I’m incredibly concerned about traffic.

    You’re not helping your cause by accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with your point of view as being motivated by racism. Ever heard of Godwin’s law?

    Comment by Oh the Irony! — May 29, 2015 @ 10:31 am

  18. Not to speak for Karen B, but am pretty sure that she wasn’t referring to all Trish Spencer voters as “this group” in her original comment. Pretty sure she was referring to the comments made by a commenter on this blog who decided to write about her personal finances as opposed to sticking to the particular topic at hand.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 29, 2015 @ 10:31 am

  19. In its report on housing, California Housing Partnership Corporation has this to say about California, “the largest and wealthiest state” of the US, where housing is particularly, to use the Fed’s term, healed:

    California leads the nation in the number of people experiencing homelessness. We lead the nation in poverty rates. We lead the nation in overcrowded rental homes and severely rent-burdened households. We lead the nation in the largest shortage of affordable rental homes.

    We have 58% of our Students and families living in poverty and qualify for free lunches at school.

    We have someone from the developer community touting we should subsidize these developers through floating bonds .

    That same person is running ad on the World Wide Web come rent my place for 1500.00 a week.

    I’m the Coward and being called a White Sheet by standing up and calling out this bullshit.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — May 29, 2015 @ 10:45 am

  20. @18 = This comment is the first mention of Trish Spencer in today’s post/thread. (of course it would come from you) I didn’t think Karen’s comment had anything to do with Trish Spencer.

    Pro and con arguments about development have been going on since long before Trish entered the fray. I seriously doubt “all Trish Spencer voters” hold the same viewpoint about development. No doubt some overlap, but hardly a 1:1 correspondence.

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 10:51 am

  21. Comment 16 reads:

    I think that could mean the commentator really believes 50.13% of people who voted in last November’s mayoral election are “white sheets.” That’s 10,488 people.

    16 comes before 18.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 29, 2015 @ 10:56 am

  22. Does anyone know exactly what happened to back up the Alameda-bound tunnel yesterday, between 5-7 pm? I went to hear a Navy SEAL give a talk at the NAS Museum, and everyone from out-of-town was about an hour late because of something in that tunnel backing up onto the freeway.

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 11:00 am

  23. Remember, vigi is infallible and so comment 21 is necessarily incorrect.

    Comment by BC — May 29, 2015 @ 11:01 am

  24. Lauren, your ability to see Trish Spencer everywhere you look borders on the pathological. Don’t look into any mirrors when you are home alone.

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 11:04 am

  25. @ 22. Fender bender, left lane, approx 1/3 of the way down the incline. Rear car hood caught under front SUV trunk. At approx 5:45, people still in cars, seemed pretty fresh.

    Comment by AK — May 29, 2015 @ 11:14 am

  26. Did the seal haul ass or did WETA save him?

    Comment by jack — May 29, 2015 @ 11:23 am

  27. Ok Jack, since you asked….C. Colin Supko, Commander, USN Reserve

    Colin Supko was born at Lake Tahoe, California in July 1976. The United States Naval Academy recruited him to play football; he graduated there in 1999 with a Bachelor of Science degree in Economics.

    He began his active duty service as a Surface Warfare Officer. He made two deployments to South America and the Caribbean from 1999 to 2001. After the tragic events of 9-11, he volunteered for and was selected to attend Naval Special Warfare (SEAL) training.

    In January 2002, he attended the SEAL Basic Underwater Demolition School and graduated with class 240. He was deployed twice in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, first as Assistant Platoon Commander and then as Platoon Commander assigned to SEAL Team FIVE.

    In 2007, he was assigned to the Naval Special Warfare Command where he acted as the deputy acquisitions and requirements officer for a two-star SEAL Admiral.

    In 2008, he was promoted early to Lieutenant Commander and took command of a Task Unit comprised of three SEAL Platoons at SEAL Team SEVEN. In this role, he deployed for a third time to Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Commander Supko’s most recent active duty assignment was as the Operations Officer for Special Boat Team Twelve, a 350-man command assigned to Naval Special Warfare Group 4. He is currently the Commanding Officer for all west coast Naval Reserve SEALs at SEAL Team 17.

    Highlights of CDR Supko’s most recent deployment include counter-piracy operations off the coast of Somalia and diplomatic assistance operations in support of the United States foreign policy objectives in the country of Yemen

    Thursday, May 28, 2015 Golden Gate Wing monthly dinner
    Social 6pm; Potluck Dinner 7pm; Speaker 8pm
    Naval Air Museum, 2151 Ferry Point, B-77, Alameda CA map
    Members: $10; First time guests: Free!

    We do this every month, Jack…always an interesting speaker. You should join us some time!

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 11:43 am

  28. I have many friends in this town with different views about development and we talk face to face – no mask – no hiding, and we respectfully agree to disagree. Cobalt Blue crossed the line in my view. His post is a personal attack – yet he hides behind a white sheet and calls himself courageous. What a coward!

    Comment by Karen Bey — May 29, 2015 @ 11:53 am

  29. CBKJ may have his problems but he is very skilled at cut and paste. You can’t deny him that.

    Comment by BC — May 29, 2015 @ 11:59 am

  30. 28 makes no sense. If you expect face to face talk, why are you commenting on this blog? Everybody here is hiding behind their screen. Names mean nothing.

    Comment by jack — May 29, 2015 @ 1:44 pm

  31. The first comment above about “white sheets” — #3 — was not aimed only at CBKJ and his inappropriate posting of personal information. Instead, that first comment referred much more broadly to a “group” of “white sheets” being out in “full force” and clearly intended to compare the Alamedans in that “group” to the KKK.

    After in #6 Dave suggested “switching to a less inflammatory metaphor,” John P in #8 suggested that would be a waste of time as it relates to Dave. The implication there was extremely offensive and reprehensible as it relates to Dave and to anyone else in the “group” who is not in fact like a KKK member.

    There has been very little subsequent clarification offered about who is and is not in the “group” of “white sheets” out in “full force” to which Karen referred. Karen clarified later that CBKJ is part of the group. John P not so subtly implied Dave might be part of it, said it refers to “an old power structure,” and then jokingly(?) said it includes “lots” of people “on this blog.”

    It’s not OK to compare people or groups of people to the KKK unless you really mean it. It’s shameful.

    Is this how civil discourse is going to be now in Alameda?

    Comment by Rob S. — May 29, 2015 @ 2:39 pm

  32. 31: My first experience with how unpleasant discourse could be was when some crazy lady talked about Reconstruction and carpetbaggers at a council meeting just after Gilmore was elected. I doubt that was the first instance. It wasn’t the last.

    Comment by BC — May 29, 2015 @ 4:00 pm

  33. Only on BBA could a discussion about PoseyTube traffic so quickly turn into one about racism.

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 4:14 pm

  34. 33. Don’t flatter us — it happens all the time on the Internet (although the traditional insult is more often “Nazi” or “sheeple”). But why not? It’s well known that the KKK’s first goal was promoting rational city growth and safe traffic patterns before experiencing an unfortunate case of extreme mission creep.

    Comment by Jack Mingo — May 29, 2015 @ 4:22 pm

  35. You mean like Smart Growth and Safer Streets? Jon Spengler & Lucy Gigli?

    Comment by vigi — May 29, 2015 @ 4:41 pm

  36. 27
    vigi, Supco sounds like a heck of an interesting guy. I wish I’d known about the Golden Gate Wings, I definitely would have attended the talk.

    Comment by jack — May 29, 2015 @ 6:56 pm

  37. Just out of curiosity, vigi, did Supko delve into his interpretation of the world situation now that the CinC has determined that it’s in the best interest of the U.S. to withdraw from the world stage and “lead from his ass”?

    Comment by jack — May 29, 2015 @ 8:11 pm

  38. Rob. you wrote ” Is this how civil discourse is going to be now in Alameda? ” I know that is more or less rhetorical. And it’s never too late to clean up our acts and elevate the level of discourse, but it’s not as if the bar for discourse has suddenly been lowered.

    The theater project brought protests that it would bring crime from Oakland, etc. Believing that is not in and of itself racist, but it’s not hard to infer that maybe folks who believe and say that are in some way bigots when it comes to citizens of Oakland. I’ve had debates with dave right on this blog where he has complained about the threat of Oakland crime being a very short physical proximity, like just over the Fruitvale bridge. I don’t think I countered with any KKK innuendos, but more than likely something snarky at one point or other, because that exchange has gone down more than once and dave and I are known to invoke snark.

    I think it is legitimate to object to an entire, very broad sector of citizenry having their motivation questioned on account of the actions of a few, but as human beings with emotions we all zig and zag across certain lines we set for others and ourselves. I’m not trying to make excuses for anybody, but context is as important as principle sometimes.

    You quoted Karen having used, “group”, “full force”, for their collective inference. You neglected to select #7, “I’ve lived in this town for over 35 years, and have experienced them up close and personal. I don’t appreciate someone attacking me with mis-truths while hiding behind a white sheet and then calling it courageous. If my metaphor offends you — sorry, but that’s how it feels!”

    Can we agree that while Cobalt does doesn’t represent 50% of voters from last election that he also isn’t a lone voice? If you aren’t part of that minority, please don’t take offense. Very few readers if any would make that correlation, even if they don’t know you. I don’t think Karen’s reaction is as sober and circumspect as it might be, but I personally don’t find her expression of what she feels to be “shameful”.

    FYI- As context for the above, I’m still chaffing a little from you taking my questioning of the “veracity” of your statements about Safe Streets proposal for Central, as an accusation you were a liar. Statements which are untrue are also by definition inaccurate and either one requires deliberate intent to make it a lie. To question the accuracy of somebody’s assumptions doesn’t constitute calling them a liar. You had offered a lot of pretty specific claims about impacts of the proposal but in a very general way with no examples in support, which made me question on what you were basing your statement or claim.

    Comment by MI — May 30, 2015 @ 10:20 am

  39. 17. in the spirit of intellectual debate and civil discourse I have to ask, couldn’t your invocation of Godwin’s Law be taken as an example of same? Godwin is based on invoking Nazis who committed genocide. Karen was invoking KKK as a comparison to a group which had literal racist covenant on housing here and in fact it’s not just a comparison, but has direct historical linkage for some people.

    Comment by MI — May 30, 2015 @ 10:30 am

  40. Something I will never understand: Why it’s acceptable for people to be hypocritical but not acceptable for someone to point it out.

    There was Nothing Racist about anything I said. Otherwise you can throw race card into any discussion in America.

    When you have someone always saying she is concerned about Low Income people and housing and the landlords in town and how they act and then Rents her place out for 1500 a week.

    Then trying to float new bond idea to subsidize developers who she is a strong advocate for.

    It’s not race it’s being a hypocrite.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — May 30, 2015 @ 11:59 am

  41. Comment 38 seems to mean that MI (1) condones Karen comparing a group of Alamedans to the KKK and (2) thinks it is OK that John P insinuated that the KKK comparison might apply to Dave and to many others, including many who comment here. He is free to think that, as is anyone and everyone else, including people who usually speak up here to try to keep civil discourse civil but have been quiet about this one.

    Invoking an analogy to the KKK in these ways is terribly wrong and is qualitatively different from ordinary blog comment snarkiness.

    Have a nice weekend.

    Comment by Rob S. — May 30, 2015 @ 12:19 pm

  42. /\/\/\

    What Rob S. said.

    Comment by Oh the Irony! — May 30, 2015 @ 12:49 pm

  43. 36 & 37 = Supko’s talk dealt with how he and his team won Fallujah via house-to-house combat and then tried to keep the peace between Shia and Sunnis in the Sunni triangle amid the power plays of the sheiks and foreign contractors. Gave a fascinating presentation, using stick figure cartoons, of the relationships in country between all the different factions. His presentation went all the way to the top (Petraeus).
    Supko conveyed how personally painful it is to see the current administration lose it all. I asked him what he thought the long-term military objective of the US actually is, for the artificially drawn borders of the “country” of Iraq. It was a very interesting discussion!

    You would probably enjoy other Golden Gate Wings meetings too. I hope I see you there in the future!
    More info here;

    Comment by vigi — May 30, 2015 @ 2:33 pm

  44. Thanks vigi. I checked out the web site yesterday. Sounds like the GGW is right up my alley of interest.

    I have mixed feelings about the current administration’s approach to the middle east. Rather than asking Supko what he thinks the current administration’s long-term military objective “is”, I would have asked him what he thought our (the U.S.) long-term objective should be. If history is any judge, the Shia/Sunni schism will never be solved by a third party and will become much more dangerous when each side has nuclear weapons…which will happen sooner than later.

    Comment by jack — May 30, 2015 @ 3:30 pm

  45. Actually, that is what I asked,. I shouldn’t have added the word “military” here; I didn’t there. I don’t think the schism will ever be solved by an outsider either; nor should we try. But we cannot un-poke the hornet’s nest…and the hornets keep flying around the world, stinging at will.
    I don’t have any answers either

    Cdr Supko has a non-military start-up online company called

    Comment by vigi — May 30, 2015 @ 3:57 pm

  46. Rob S. You can twist and turn what I posted as much as you like, but I stand by it. I just took a look at my posts, I told Karen that she didn’t need to clarify what she had posted to Dave. I have been debating issues with Dave for over ten years and I would never infer that the KKK reference might apply to him. Your comment about the “white sheets” was made in post #13 by Jack not me, I simply agreed with him.

    Comment by John P. — May 31, 2015 @ 8:30 am

  47. I just got back from taking a load of toxic waste to the Point’s one-day hazardous drop-off. Now after reading John White Pee’s #46 miss-reading of my #13, I’ll have to make another trip.

    My own feeling is that Karen’s “white sheet” is a metaphor for Casper the Friendly Ghost who’s invisibly harmless and is also a metaphor for an introverted lonely child seeking love and attention.

    Comment by jack — May 31, 2015 @ 10:45 am

  48. Jack, didn’t misread at all, simply agreed with you. I know that’s hard to believe. Also went to the drop off, it was handled very nice and very quick. I was in and out before 9:am.

    Comment by John P. — May 31, 2015 @ 12:09 pm

  49. 41. I was trying to take a more nuanced view and give Karen credit for her history here ( 35 years as African American in Alameda) and also allow that maybe she and John zigged when they might have zagged, but yeah, I can live with zealous reactions to somebody being hounded in a creepy manner, which is just as problematic. You and irony are entitled to ignore references I made in 38. trying to remind people why Karen may feel “white sheets” was not a “shameful” reaction in that context to creepy method Cobalt employed, and remind Colbalt that it’s not about overt racism, it’s similarity of methods in stalking somebody. Should I assume Rob and Irony condone that ? I was also pointing out how it was NOT a blanket accusation about everybody who is opposed to development which it seems is part of the offense taken. I’m pushing back against what seems like high handed accusations that Karen’s action was “shameful”. To me it may not represent her best day, but I feel like I get it. If you guys need to be gate keepers of moral behavior here others of us will have to live with that too. I’m being sensitive because I haven’t let go of having been wrongly accused of calling somebody a liar when I was making a pretty innocent line of inquiry, attempting civil discourse. But it’s water under the bridge and just silly semantics at this point. People come here and throw words around, sometimes carelessly. Mistakes get made. I’m ready to move on.

    Comment by MI — June 1, 2015 @ 8:47 am

  50. You’re ready to move on?


    You’re still mad about Veracity-Gate but we’re supposed to believe your “ready to move on.”

    YOU are the one who questioned the man’s honesty. If you didn’t mean that you could have cleared it up with “ooops, sorry, meant accuracy” and everything would have been cool.

    But instead you got aggro cuz somehow your weak-ass vocabulary is somebody elses fault.

    Weeks later your nickers are still twisted, but “ready to move on”

    Comment by Moving On? LOL — June 1, 2015 @ 12:23 pm

  51. Labeling someone a racist can ruin reputations and careers. Hinting they are KKK-ers is SLANDER. No other word for it (except for maybe DEFAMATION)

    If that word was thrown at one of the quote-unquote Progressives, a whole army of earnest prius drivers would have instantly risen up in anger — and they’d have been right.

    But Kate Quick to Judge, John Knowsitall White, John SNAG-ler, and all the pillars of the self rightous community have been on radio silence. John Pizzaboy could have backed off and said, no, people worried about traffic are not terrorists (that’s what the FBI calls the KKK), and apologized for misspeaking (hey, we all do that, right?)

    But SLANDER is OK when it’s thrown at the other guys.

    Hypocrisy: when the rules only apply to the other team

    Comment by Good Government — June 1, 2015 @ 12:32 pm

  52. The thread has passed the point of no return. We have an enraged CAPITALIZER. Make it stop.

    Comment by BC — June 1, 2015 @ 2:44 pm

  53. Good Government, are you making fun of my ethnicity??, how dare you do that, its almost like defamation.

    Comment by John P. — June 1, 2015 @ 4:41 pm

  54. 53. GG called you boy. It is not about you ethnicity it is about your maturity level. I think there are some kids on your lawn.

    Comment by Gerard L. — June 1, 2015 @ 6:50 pm

  55. I have lived in this community for over 35 years, and have worked in the real estate development industry for the last 15 years. I have shared this information on this blog,
    at city council meetings, and at planning board hearings many times.

    Next, I do own a rental, and I do not rent it out for $1,500 a week as Cobalt has repeatedly reported on this blog.

    Next, whenever I write on this blog, I have the courage to put my name to it. This Cobalt …. is courage.

    Next, I felt like Cobalt’s decision to report my personal information on this blog was a form of intimidation – to silence me – to keep me from speaking my views on affordable housing. And yes, it feels like I am being stalked by a nameless, faceless, person whose message to me is this: He will hunt down, and reveal personal information about me whenever he disagrees with my personal points of view.

    Definition of stalking:
    Trail, follow, shadow, track down, go after, be after, hunt……

    Finally, I believe strongly that housing developers are in the best position to make a difference in this area, because of the large volume of homes they build. I will continue to speak out and support affordable housing, and housing programs that address the regional housing crisis.

    As someone who grew up in the projects, I know first hand the power of good housing policy.

    Comment by Karen Bey — June 2, 2015 @ 6:43 am

  56. Overview
    Bedrooms: 2
    Bathrooms: 1
    Sleeps 4
    Per night $225
    Per week $1,500
    Type: Apartment
    Description of the Alameda vacation apartment rental
    Charming, sunny, two bedroom, one bath Queen Ann cottage apartment on the Island of Alameda, just five minutes from a wide, sandy beach and a short ferry ride to San Francisco. Enjoy the ambiance of this lovely California beach town, with cafes, bookstores, resplendent Victorian homes, tree-lined streets, manicured parks, a historical business district, and a temperate climate.

    Carefully restored for your enjoyment, this 900 square foot apartment was built in 1891 and is listed on the Alameda Historical List. The rooms are sun filled, with garden views. There are two comfortable bedrooms to suit your fancy, one with a queen-size bed and the other with a full.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:03 am

  57. Karen I didn’t stalk you I found this while trying to find place for a friend to live. If This is not you you have issues with

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:06 am

  58. Lauren how come you won’t let me post explaination on how I found it.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:23 am

  59. I didn’t stalk . Trail. Shadow. Go After. Hunt…

    I found this while trying to find place for a friend to live. If This is not you, you have issues with the website it was posted on.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:32 am

  60. If you’re posting too many links you go to spam, I don’t check my spam folder every day.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 2, 2015 @ 9:32 am

  61. It was just a link to the Site where I was looking to help a friend who needed a place to live in Alameda where I ran across ad . Thought that would be important if she maintains and claims that isn’t her and I guess someone else is using her name and promoting her rental.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:58 am

  62. Karen I will try and make it as clear as possible my point for posting.

    You work in the Real Estate Development Industry.

    You are a Public person and want to known as someone in that industry and be Public about it. You want to Put Your Name on it. You are probably paid to that. Might even be in your job description. So I wouldn’t spend to much time Ironing your Cape of Courage.

    The Personal Information I posted was not personal. It was ad at a rental site with your property and your name on it. It did not give exact address. Just Description and City and Price and your name on it.

    I have many friends facing housing issues. You have always spoke up about low income housing and the housing needs and how landlords act ECT.

    I just found it kind of hypocritical to ask the public to subsidize real estate developers as a solution to affordable housing . We have 100’s of thousands in need of affordable housing and we need to subsidize the Developers with a bond .Which is just another Tax….. Just let that sink in.

    Then running across your ad when looking for rental for a friend for 1500 a week and found all this hypocritical.

    Maybe I see this all wrong. WTFDIK

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 10:17 am

  63. How many is “too many”?

    Comment by jack — June 2, 2015 @ 10:19 am

  64. Cobalt and Good Government,

    You need to take a time out and remember your manners. I just read this thread and am appalled at the racist slurs and countercharges leveled at Karen Bey–and John Piziali.

    All I can think of is that Karen’s remarks about racism–about being attacked, stalked, and otherwise
    mistreated because she has brown skin–hit some people a bit too close for comfort. Did she strike a nerve? Are you feeling guilty as charged, perhaps?

    If that happened to any of you, dear readers, I recommend that you face your own feelings and values squarely in the light of day. If you find that she made you uncomfortable, ask yourself if it was because her words were truthful. Look in the mirror first, and cast stones only after you are sin-free. Then do some work–on yourself–and grow into the kind of person who does not feel s/he is identified when a sister testifies about racist behaviors she has experienced.

    And you can back off with the name-calling about my friend John Piziali, too: there is NO call for that kind of racist organic matter here–or anywhere else–either.

    Comment by Jon Spangler — June 2, 2015 @ 3:16 pm

  65. I called him BOY because MEN own their words.

    But more importantly, Jon, thanks for taking time out of your busy workday to prove my point: Slander is OK when your friends do it to others.

    Hypocrisy: when the rules only apply to the other team.

    Make sure you advise your friends to lay off calling people who care about traffic and neighborhoods murderers and terrorists. Your advice about self-reflection applies to them, too.

    Comment by Good Government — June 2, 2015 @ 3:53 pm

  66. 50. the whole point is that I didn’t question his honesty you dumb shit.

    Comment by MI — June 2, 2015 @ 4:27 pm

  67. Yes Good Government MEN own their words, and cowards use false names to hide behind. The term “BOY” has been used for many years and not just to describe a persons age. Like I said I stand behind what I post here, and sign off on it. Why don’t you try it. Be a MAN.

    Comment by John P. — June 2, 2015 @ 4:32 pm

  68. Keep telling like you see it, Cobalt.

    Comment by jarfree — June 2, 2015 @ 5:29 pm

  69. Jon Spangler what Racial Slurs did I use….. If you are referring to saying what Grifters do…… You are Probably Alameda’s Poster Child as a Grifter in That Respect….. How much money has your Household received from City Elections, Developers, Transportation initiatives and Bike Related funds for campaigns in last 15 years? I can hear the criquets chirping now.

    Jarfree that’s how I see it….Maybe I’m Wrong…….BWTFDIK

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 7:03 pm

  70. You go John!

    Comment by jack — June 2, 2015 @ 7:51 pm

  71. Jack – Sometimes it takes brutal honesty to shake up what has transpired and what we witness and when anyone questions or points something out they are attacked.

    Out pops the reptilian brain in all of us. I think the world and politics are moving towards more authentic and honest discussions and believe people are fed up with BS and Grifters.

    We are seeing it in relationships, friendships, business and how people treat each other.

    We keep evolving and changing daily.

    I try and speak for those who can’t.

    I make mistakes everyday but try and be a better person.

    I just call them as I see it.


    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 2, 2015 @ 9:26 pm

  72. 69: Zero dollars, zero cents. Nada.

    Comment by Jon Spangler — June 3, 2015 @ 6:50 am

  73. Jon You guys are quite the Volunteers. Fabulous to read your family does all their marketing efforts for free. Pass the Cape to Jon…

    Nov 18, 2010, Under: Community,Opinion Mayor Johnson addressed SunCal adviser Jon Spangler at last night’s City Council meeting, reminding him that the community [

    Jon Spangler
    Writer-editor & partner @ Linda Hudson Writing. Hi-tech, nonprofit marketing/PR. Social media. Cycling Instructor, LAB.
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    Partner at Linda Hudson Writing: marketing communications writer, editor, and proofreader for businesses and nonprofits. We specialize in high-tech marcomm, “translating geek-speak” into general business English.

    Linda Hudson Writing offers high tech and B2B marketing collateral: web copy, success stories, data sheets, white papers, press releases, brochures, articles, case studies, and more.

    Social media and PR for nonprofits (civic, arts, transportation advocacy). Writing and social media coach.

    Collaborative writer-editor for advocacy groups and successful political candidates (strategic plans and manuals, political mailers, grant applications).

    Specialties: Marketing writing, editing, and proofreading for
    high technology product collateral as well as transportation advocacy.

    -Publicity, marketing, and event planning for nonprofit
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    -Advocacy communications: sustainable transportation, land use, smart growth, bike and ped safety; school anti-bullying programs.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 9:07 am

  74. Dear Mr. Cobalt, Jon is a member of the League of Women Voters, as is his good wife, Linda Hudson. He has been doing our publicity for a number of years and has produced many high quality flyers and press releases for the League at absolutely no cost to the League. He does this for other organizations he belongs to as well. He is a volunteer.
    We have all heard you throw the word ‘grifter’ around about other folks as well, including Doug Biggs, who directs the APC and works his tail off for the people who find themselves in need of housing and other services. He is paid for that job, but is hardly compensated at a rate that reflects his dedication and commitment to his work. A grifter is a person who benefits monetarily from suckers. I would not characterize either of these men like that, ever.
    And before your usual smarty pants riposte as to how I am not a person of good character, I want to say I would like to hear you say something positive, life affirming and beneficial about someone, anyone or anything. Who in this town do you admire, value, want to see prosper? What agenda do you want to see played out for the benefit of our community? Do you believe that any person that does not share your personal beliefs can also be a good person in his/her own right, even if their opinion differs from yours?

    Comment by Kate Quick — June 3, 2015 @ 5:15 pm

  75. Well put , Kate, I have never met Jon or Linda and though I do not agree with Jon on a lot of issues I still get a kick out of needling him. By the same token I do not know cobalt (or whatever handle it uses) and, I agree a lot of its comments are dreary beyond measure, however the beauty of this blog is that it takes the first amendment seriously which in my opinion trumps all efforts to inhibit the “Say what you want” mantra Lauren has honored. So it’s not important whether or not cobalt has good or bad, beneficial or positive opinions, what’s important is that those opinions can be posted.

    Comment by jack — June 3, 2015 @ 6:36 pm

  76. Kate …..Jon Spengler accused me of using racial slurs…….Never once on this blog have I ever uttered one or intended one towards another person…Including Doug Biggs… So Don’t be Boxing or framing me like you do other people…. So that I have got this all right Jon and Linda don’t profit off of all these marketing devices they use to influence the puplic and public opinion.I understand Grifter to be more carnival and circus slang… Like a Goat and Pony Show… Confidence man…. I just find his act very hilarious most of the time and takes himself a little to serious.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 7:15 pm

  77. Kate what I would love to see this town focus on is the people and the kids and our fabulous assets as a city. I have watched the budgets and monies for Parks and Sports Programs go on a Austerity program both at Schools and at City Level.

    We have 40% of our Kids that Live in Poverty and their families can’t afford 500 dollar fees to play ball on a team or participate in many activities that use to be free or nominal charges and these activities are now nonexistent or highly fee’d.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 7:29 pm

  78. There are many in this community doing fabulous things for the kids and their families. I hold them in very high regards.

    But there is very little voice in this town speaking up Kids and their families. Both at School Level and City Level.

    If anyone questions about where the monies are going and not buying new equipment for the kids or fixing the pools or having supplies…..The standard Response is either you hate Teachers or you Hate Fireman.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 7:38 pm

  79. Everyone has a right to an opinion of course. Having said that, all who give an opinion should fully expect to have an opposing opinion given. Having an opinion that differs doesn’t mean that the poster thinks the person who posted originally should not have an opinion. They are just engaging in a civil exchange of opinions.

    Comment by Kate Quick — June 3, 2015 @ 8:00 pm

  80. Kate…..Everyone is entitled to an Opinion…….I never said anyone is not……You can say anything you want….This is America……When did I ever say or insinuate someone isn’t entitled to opinion…..If someone is representing a group or paid to do that it’s also ok to point that out also….

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 8:34 pm

  81. Kate this is what has happened in Sports and Activities in Schools and Sports in the Parks in Alameda. But it goes silent here.

    No pay, no play! Poor kids banned from school carnival

    No party for the poor.
    PS 120 in Flushing held a carnival for its students Thursday, but kids whose parents did not pay $10 were forced to sit in the auditorium while their classmates had a blast.
    Close to 900 kids went to the Queens schoolyard affair, with pre-K to fifth-grade classes taking turns, each spending 45 minutes outside. The kids enjoyed inflatable slides, a bouncing room and a twirly teacup ride. They devoured popcorn and flavored ices. DJs blasted party tunes.
    But more than 100 disappointed kids were herded into the darkened auditorium to just sit or watch an old Disney movie while aides supervised — the music, shouts and laughter outside still audible.

    Comment by Cobalt Black Keys Johnson — June 3, 2015 @ 9:11 pm

  82. CBKJ, I rather doubt anyone, however stricken, would want an illiterate creep like you speaking for them.

    Comment by BC — June 3, 2015 @ 9:12 pm

  83. Jon Spangler is one of the nicest people in our community who always strives to be thoughtful, balanced and fair in whatever he says and does. And my advise to you Jon is to keep on keeping on, and continue your positive work in the community. The best way to combat negativity is the sheer force of “positive”. You don’t have to explain yourself. We know who you are!

    Comment by Karen Bey — June 4, 2015 @ 8:12 am

  84. anyone who knows Jon Spangler knows he isn’t a community activist because there is a lot on money in it. I have seen him at work in this community for well over the last decade, those who would try to paint him as anything but a good honest man are sorely lacking good judgement.

    Comment by John P. — June 4, 2015 @ 8:54 am

  85. Hear, Hear- could not agree more with Karen, Kate and John- Jon’s commitment to Alameda is remarkable. He makes a difference in this town.

    Comment by librarycat — June 4, 2015 @ 9:01 am

  86. Jon is a supercilious twit and a pompous a**. His writing (and speaking) style is unmistakeable with a scolding, holier than thou tone. I hate it when I agree with him because of the unstated air of moral arrogance he has combined with a light touch of hypocrisy (although not nearly as bad as others).

    P.S. (to BC) the quality of your insults has completely devolved. Trouble at work or home getting you down?

    Comment by people can be unreasonable ------- — June 4, 2015 @ 9:25 am

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