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September 6, 2013

We’re hanging a sign, says “visitors forbidden”

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Landing, Business, Crime, Development — Lauren Do @ 6:06 am

So, I’m not generally a fan of the East Bay Express, I read it because it’s there and well, it’s there and train wreck-y and so sometimes awesome in its OMG factor.   Although I am a fan of Luke Tsai and the What The Fork series.   The East Bay Express generally manages to have strong food writers (like John Birdsall who went away, but you can follow him on Twitter), but I digress.

Anyway, sometimes they offer stories to the East Bay Citizen who covers a lot of East Bay political news.  Apparently he is an Alameda resident and hangs out a lot at Peets or Starbucks on Park Street, I can’t remember which.  He is probably the only guy really covering some of the Southern Alameda County and San Leandro political stuff, dabbles in Oakland politics, and dipped his toe into Alameda waters, but Alameda has a lot of coverage so…

But, despite all that I did find the article written about Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O’Malley to be amusing since it came on the heels of the Oakland Tribune/Inside Bay Area/whatever pointing out that the data she relied on (about the number of robberies in Oakland) was incorrect.    The EBX piece didn’t really pull any punches and titled the piece:

Alameda County DA: We Don’t Want Oaklanders in Alameda

Yikes!  Given that Oakland is a huge voting demographic and will probably make a huge difference in the next election, that’s definitely not the perception that you want to put forward.   Although this could work in her advantage with Alamedans who think that Oakland residents in Alameda is a huge problem and Alameda also has a pretty hefty number of active voters as well.

I know some people may not care what Dan Siegel thinks, but I think his point is well made and goes to the underlying issues of subtle prejudice that — unintentionally — bleed into our every day lives

Oakland civil rights and labor attorney Dan Siegel contended that O’Malley’s comments represent inherent prejudices within the justice system. Siegel has long been a critic of law enforcement and served as an advisor to Oakland Mayor Jean Quan before quitting two years ago in protest over what he argued was her administration’s heavy-handed response to Occupy Oakland demonstrators. He raised a parallel between the In-N-Out controversy and the Trayvon Martin case, arguing that young black kids are often wrongly assumed by other groups to be committing crimes. “If their pants are sagging and [they’re] wearing a hoodie, they must be a criminal,” said Siegel. “However, they’re only slightly more likely to be one than a white kid.”

Regarding the insinuation by O’Malley that a burger joint will attract unsavory elements to Alameda, he said, “I can’t say she’s prejudiced, but I’m sorry she feels that way. I don’t think people have a right to be separated from people who live in Alameda, Piedmont, Alamo, Pleasanton, or anywhere else.” Although Siegel acknowledged O’Malley’s hard work over the years in protecting people from domestic violence and human trafficking, among other accomplishments, he said, “her comments reflect people who believe they are not overtly biased regarding color and ethnicity, but cannot escape the stereotypes in our society.”

I think the ironic thing about the whole In N Out attracting crime argument is that, of all the Alameda to Oakland crossings, Oakland Chinatown doesn’t strike me as having as much “crime” as say the Fruitvale neighborhood.   According to this weirdo Neighborhood Scout site, the area that the Tube dumps out is in dark blue which is the “safest” rating.   The areas that the Park, Fruitvale and High Street bridges dump into on the Oakland side are a lilac color which is in the middle between “safest” and, I guess because they didn’t label it, “less safe”.



  1. I wonder what Reporter got the Information Right?

    Crime up in Oakland, much of Bay Area

    Henry K. Lee
    Updated 10:41 pm, Monday, June 3, 2013
    With nearly 12 robberies a day and murders, rapes and assaults all on the rise, Oakland is the Bay Area’s crime hot spot – but new FBI statistics show that the city is far from alone in confronting rising mayhem.

    Eleven of the Bay Area’s 15 largest cities recorded higher levels of violent crime in 2012 than the year before, according to preliminary totals that the FBI released Monday. The figures represent an abrupt turnaround from a year ago, when data showed that crime had dropped significantly compared with 2010.
    The new data confirmed that all types of violent crime – murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assaults – increased in Oakland in 2012, as did property crime such as burglaries and thefts. The statistics show that Oakland has the highest per-capita crime rate in California.
    It’s a trend that has rolled into 2013. Over the weekend and early Monday, 17 people were shot in incidents ranging from a sideshow – an illegal car rally – to a triple shooting outside a downtown nightclub. Among the victims was a 17-year-old boy, David Manson Jr., who was shot in the middle of the day Sunday on an East Oakland street.
    Asked Monday about the surge in crime, interim Oakland Police Chief Sean Whent would say only, “We’re working on it.”

    Robberies up
    Oakland saw a nearly 29 percent jump in robberies, with 4,338 stickups reported last year – the equivalent of about a dozen a day. But Richmond had a slightly larger percentage increase in heists, FBI records show. Daly City and Antioch came in third and fourth, respectively, with increases of about 28 percent.
    Overall, among cities with more than 100,000 people, violent crime went up in Antioch, Berkeley, Daly City, Fairfield, Hayward, Richmond, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale, the FBI said. It was down in Concord, Fremont, Santa Rosa and Vallejo.
    Crime experts cautioned that the figures may not necessarily paint a complete portrait of a city’s problems. Homicide rates can fluctuate for reasons that can be hard to quantify and might not align with other violent-crime trends. For example, although violent crime in Richmond increased by 12 percent from 2011 to 2012, the number of homicides dropped, from 26 to 18.

    Comment by O'Really — September 6, 2013 @ 7:52 am

  2. Crime experts cautioned that the figures may not necessarily paint a complete portrait of a city’s problems. Homicide rates can fluctuate for reasons that can be hard to quantify and might not align with other violent-crime trends. For example, although violent crime in Richmond increased by 12 percent from 2011 to 2012, the number of homicides dropped, from 26 to 18.

    Personally, I attend fewer side shows these days, just as a precautionary measure.

    Comment by MI — September 6, 2013 @ 8:03 am

  3. 1. “The sky is falling! the sky is falling!”

    Most people worry too much about crime and not enough about real-world risks–like being hit by the person texting or talking on her cell phone. Not to mention the long-term ruination of our economy, our environment, and our political system by corporations making, buying, and selling toxic and GMO products, toxic chemicals, fossil fuels, and politicians left and right. These are the folks who are bringing us (their) continued profits at the cost of (our) global warming and they are the 1% fighting the conversion to a just and sustainable economy.

    If you want to focus on crime, look towards Wall Street, K Street, the Koch brothers, the American Legislative Education Council (ALEC), and the uber-rich who are strangling us all. The burglars coming over from Oakland are not the real problem…

    Comment by Jon Spangler — September 6, 2013 @ 8:47 am

  4. Who does she think In-N-Out would attract? Hamburglers? I know most criminals (they say) are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but it would seem to me that there are better targets for hold-ups than people who shop at burger joints, most of whom don’t even leave their cars in an environment where there are plenty of witnesses and surveillance cameras. As far as I’m concerned, the biggest problem the In-N-Out will create is litter. In the meantime, school security deserves a closer look, no? We fiddle while Rome burns. Maybe we should call the area Nero’s Retreat.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — September 6, 2013 @ 9:25 am

  5. One thing In n Out will attract is drunk drivers. Take a walk through any In/Out after midnight on a weekend and you’ll see what I mean. Nations on Webster, for example, attracts a significant number of drinkers on weekends and that place is nowhere near as popular as In/Out. We all know how grease goes down nicely with a good buzz on….

    To be clear , this is NOT In/Out’s fault and should not be a reason to disallow them. But APD could run up a fair number of DUI arrests by hanging there on weekend nights.

    Comment by dave — September 6, 2013 @ 9:39 am

  6. In and Out is Right next to Walmart in Oakland.

    Walmart off Hegenberger Road in East Oakland looks like a typical Walmart, with thousands of people coming through its doors every day, buying everything from flat-screen televisions and groceries to luggage.
    But the parking lot – which is bordered by other businesses including a Starbucks and a Wingstop restaurant – hints at tightened security. Police have two parking places reserved for them at all times. There are multiple security cameras. On a recent weekday, a private security company had a truck parked outside the store’s front doors with lights flashing. Black-market vendors roam the parking lot selling DVDs and CDs.
    This store had 713 calls for police service in 2012, and officers were sent 293 times, police data showed. Of those calls, 41 were for auto burglaries in progress.
    In Oakland, average police response time to top-priority calls – such as burglaries – is about 17 minutes, and Wasserman is looking for improvement and developing a plan for these buildings as part of his mission.
    Repeat calls, Wasserman said, offer an opportunity for “officers to start to pay attention and figure out what’s actually going on,” he said. “If you don’t, there will be another thing there and another thing.
    “It’s particularly important,” he said, “in an environment like Oakland, where you have limited police resources.”

    Comment by O'Really — September 6, 2013 @ 9:43 am

  7. O’Malley does not speak for all Alamedans.

    There are criminals AND law-abiding citizens in Oakland, Alameda, and rest of bay area. Use common sense.

    Comment by happyhappyfunfun — September 6, 2013 @ 10:34 am

  8. #5, Dave what are you doing out in the middle of the night walking through an IN-N-out.? You should be at home like me snuggled in bed asleep for three hours already. At least you said your walking.

    Comment by John P. (L) — September 6, 2013 @ 11:24 am

  9. Jon Spangler go down and work in the hood for 5 or 6 years . Have your friends talk about their Son’s being murdered. Tearing apart families. Seniors and parents who are scared Sh__less and afraid to go out of their house and can’t even sit on their own porches. No the Sky is Not Failing. These are great people and most will survive. If we had 1100 stickups and 30 murders in Alameda would you really be concerned about REAL WORLD – Risks–like being hit by the person Texting or Talking on her Cell Phone. Because these numbers are the same ratio as Alameda/Oakland.

    Comment by O'Really — September 6, 2013 @ 1:45 pm

  10. Shhh, John, don’t bother Jon when he’s spanking the monkey.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 6, 2013 @ 5:58 pm

  11. #7 So true. We have our share of Tweekers on Buena Vista and Grand.

    Comment by Bernice Wong — September 6, 2013 @ 8:16 pm

  12. 5. true that. wonder how many people at Wallgreen’s pharma drive through are still buzzing on their last dosage of the Vicodin scrip they are getting refilled.

    Comment by M.I. — September 7, 2013 @ 12:00 pm

  13. Jack he hates people like Bill Gates…..Gates has directly saved 7 million plus lives in the last few years…Jonny the bike bell has buried us in local Political 5 Color Glossy Flyers and Puff pieces and sold manure at a hardware store. He has quite the legacy.

    Comment by O'Really — September 8, 2013 @ 1:30 pm

  14. Fuck Gates, let em die.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 8, 2013 @ 5:15 pm

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