Tonight the Neptune Pointe parcel is up before the Planning Board for the EIR scoping session design review, but they’re calling this thing “Neptune Beach” which I’m sure will annoy some people with great fondness for the old real Neptune Beach. Here’s the number you are looking for: 48. Thats how many units are slated to be built, 15% of those would be available for low income housing. It appears that Tim Lewis Communities, the developer, will not be seeking a density bonus on this sucker.
But, to the graphics…
Site plan, aka how the units will look on the parcel:
Here are the four plans:
I dunno about them, they sort of look like these weird faux-historical types that is generally non offensive. I’m a little thrown by them, it might be because of the palm tress. I’m not sure. Maybe I’m thrown off by the columns and the picket type railings. Although there is one elevation for the Plan 2 type that looks very throwback with oval windows and a fussy design on the railing which, depending on how authentic it looks will either make people gush with excitement or their heads explode.
You did notice that a lot of these are going to be of the three story variety right? Interestingly enough since it appears that the units are going to be on the narrow side most of the “living” space (kitchen, living area, etc) is going to be on the second floor and not on the ground floor. Check out the floor plans. The only exception is for Plan 1.
But given the proximity to the beach, these are probably going to be pretty popular. Look for commenters — if any – to be concerned about parking. It appears that the guest parking spaces are pretty limited within the community and on the stretch of McKay parking can be not ideal. With some of the units given options to push into four bedrooms (and actually five unofficial bedrooms if you count the ground floor “den”) folks are going to complain.
Oh, I think I found a good built example of what Neptune Beach might look like, this is a project that is being built in Mountain View by the same design company. See the fussy railing design and click on the link for more photos:
Good morning Lauren,
Quick clarification. Tonight’s meeting is not design review, it’s a scoping session for the EIR. Design review will occur later.
Comment by jkw — June 5, 2013 @ 7:10 am
the site plan shows you a little of the Crown Harbor community next to this project. It was an award winning development, homes set to view the bay and give homeowners a bit of privacy, really nice landscaping, and lots of open space. This new plan looks like it took a lot of talent to be able to squeeze all of those little squares into a very small area. However they are now able to save on landscaping costs because there is none, and why have open space when you have open space next door. Look at the drawing of the homes with the tall trees in between each home, then look at the picture of the real homes, think you can squeeze a tree in there.
Comment by John P. (L) — June 5, 2013 @ 7:38 am
I like it. And calling it Neptune Beach makes sense. That’s where it is, after all, and the old Neptune Beach is GWTW and not coming back, so what the hey? It’s a nice tribute.
Comment by Denise Shelton — June 5, 2013 @ 7:49 am
You don’t need alot of open space when your property is steps away from the beach. I like it!
Comment by Karen Bey — June 5, 2013 @ 9:03 am
Can’t they just build normal single family homes in Alameda anymore?
Comment by jsanders128 — June 5, 2013 @ 9:15 am
The three separate stories makes it possible to enjoy the water views on all levels of the home. Their designs remind me a little of some of the cottages and homes on Balboa Island in Newport Beach.
Comment by Karen Bey — June 5, 2013 @ 10:50 am
I like them. They seem similar to what was built at Grand Marina.
Comment by Joe — June 5, 2013 @ 11:35 am
If tonight is the scoping session, then I am sure all of the EBRP supporters will be out to cite specific environmental concerns that need to be addressed in the EIR. Someone should call Doug Siden, Alameda’s EBRP rep and alert him to the meeting. We wouldn’t want them to say they weren’t informed, and then sue us or something.
Comment by notadave — June 5, 2013 @ 11:42 am
I know it is very early in the process … what is the approx time frame for these homes to be built? Maybe too late to save Neptune Plaza.
Speaking of dates, anybody know when the Boatworks homes will be built?
Comment by alameda — June 5, 2013 @ 11:58 am
5. Yes, if you buy a lot, hire an architect, a structural engineer, a geotechnical engineer, and a contractor. Most people don’t want the hassle and it’s a lot more expensive.
Comment by Denise Shelton — June 5, 2013 @ 2:37 pm
Karen, Newport Beach, it ain’t.
Comment by John P. (L) — June 5, 2013 @ 8:59 pm
however you can borrow sugar from your neighbor by just reaching out the window, you don’t have to even walk across the street.
Comment by John P. (L) — June 5, 2013 @ 9:01 pm
#11….I agree…
Comment by J.E.A. — June 5, 2013 @ 10:11 pm
Here’s a picture of some homes and cottages on Balboa Island in Newport Beach. The closeness of the homes don’t appear to be a problem in this well planned community. The homes sale for between $1M – $3M. It’s a charming place — and with the right design Neptune Beach can be as charming.
http://www.bcre.com/balboa-island-little-island-newport-beach-ca.php
Comment by Karen Bey — June 6, 2013 @ 6:53 am
Karen, I looked at the homes on your link, they are custom built, one has a wine cellar and one has a private dock. It looks like 11 guest parking places and the majority of the homes will have no view.
Comment by John P. (L) — June 6, 2013 @ 7:33 am
second sentence is in reference to Alameda.
Comment by John P. (L) — June 6, 2013 @ 7:35 am
Karen, I’m sorry but the plan above will never look anything like Balboa Island. Also, if you have ever spent anytime on Balboa Island you know that traffic is a major problem. On a Sunday afternoon it can take over an hour just to get across the bridge.
Comment by J.E.A. — June 6, 2013 @ 11:02 am