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January 6, 2012

Like a tattoo

Filed under: Alameda, Business, Development — Lauren Do @ 6:03 am

Have folks been following the discussion over on Patch with regard to the proposed Tattoo shop on Webster.   I should say third shop, since there are already two tattoo shops in Alameda on or near Webster Street.

Amazingly enough I thought that people would just be cranky in general about a Tattoo shop opening up because they didn’t like tattoos, but rather the conversation has also centered around the shop not being “authentic enough” since the owner isn’t a tattoo artist himself and that he shouldn’t be attempting to compete with the other two existing tattoo shops.

W. T. F.

Look, I’m not covered in tattoos, I’m largely apathetic to tattoos.   My husband got one before I met him and he now refers to it as a “mistake.”  So much so that #1 daughter used to think that tattoos were actually called “mistakes” and referred to a stranger’s tattoo as a “mistake.”   But for the life of me I cannot understand what the big deal is about not wanting this tattoo parlor on Webster.   I understand the complaint that Park Street has rules against having tattoo parlors on the ground floors and I think it’s pretty unfair that the rules aren’t more consistent throughout the business districts, but those arguments should have been brought before the City Council back when they modified the ordinances, not when some dude is trying to open a legitimate business in an dead retail space.

The shop, called “Inkies”, was part of a Patch Video profile, you can watch it here and looks like a pretty professional operation.  It has a five star average rating on Yelp with more than 100 reviews.   Not too shabby.

The sad part about the discussion on Patch was that the purported owner has decided (or said he would) pull his application.   As of yesterday afternoon the application had not been pulled and honestly, I hope that the owner doesn’t pull it.   For a city and its citizens who purport to be so hungry for business, particularly small businesses, it is pretty obnoxious when it pushes away a legitimate business simply because other owners fear competition or it’s not the right “image” for the area.   I’ll point out that of a survey of the other businesses owners on Webster Street, apparently the majority didn’t want the tattoo parlor either and some of the comments were from the other tattoo parlors in the Webster Street area who, surprise surprise, didn’t want the competition.

The fact is, all of the businesses that people want to relocate to Alameda just aren’t going to do it because we wish hard enough.  If a tattoo parlor has done its due diligence and feels as though they can make money in Alameda, I don’t see what the problem is.   If Inkies wants to open a shop that can mainstream tattooing, good for them, as long as the zoning is proper and all their paperwork is in order, what valid reason would the City have to reject their application?   Because people don’t like the idea of a third tattoo shop on Webster?

The additionally sad part, if Inkies does pull their application, is the fact that according to the owner, several of his tattoo artists live in Alameda and have families here.   And isn’t that exactly what we want, for people who live here to be able to work here as well?

If Inkies does open shop in Alameda, then some enterprising businessperson should open the next logical business: tattoo removal.


  1. I agree. Let the market decide. If every major business district can support multiple nail shops within 600 yards of each other, high end tattoo parlors are no different. Even artists need eat, and show off their talents. I hope Alameda’s provincialism doesn’t drive out another legitimate business. Now if only nail shops and tattoo parlors start generating sales tax for the city parks and services, we’ll be set. That’s a discussion for another day started by Mike McMahon.

    Comment by Alan — January 6, 2012 @ 6:50 am

  2. Why don’t we let the Market Decide . What a Frkn concept.

    We are so Business unfriendly in California with every Agency and Regulatory Board that NO Business in it;s Right Mind wants to come here and most looking for a way out. Alameda is Prime example.

    When all the Small Bars and resturants start closing their doors due to the Mindsets of the Jon Spangler Types we are Totally FFFFed.

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 7:19 am

  3. Does anyone in this Town besides someone running a Business know how hard it is just to Generate enough Tax Dollars to Support just One Frkn Underpaid Teacher or One Underpaid City Employee.

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 7:24 am

  4. @John — Here’s the deal. The average citizen neither knows nor cares how hard it is to run a business today because they never tried it themselves. They may even daydream about being their own boss and opening that little (cafe, bookstore, ski shop, you fill in the blank). Unfortunately, it’s like the people who never RSVP to parties because they never throw them and have no idea how much work goes into it, the average citizen collects that corporate paycheck buys whatever they really want to, wherever they really want to, cluck, clucks, when one of their “favorite” shops–which it turns out they’ve only been to once in the past 12 months–goes out of business, but apart from lip service, has no real loyalty to the community or commitment to local business. I’m not condemning them, it’s just the way it is. I agree that the market should decide. There are a number of thriving businesses in town that probably would never get the thumbs up today because of restrictions (Revelations drive-through cleaners comes to mind). Others have been given a big thumbs up from all and sundry agencies and failed. You can’t legislate consumer preference or loyalty. When the Navy was in town, there were always quite a few tattoo parlors on Webster. It’s tradition. Besides, when it comes to art, each business has a unique product.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — January 6, 2012 @ 8:32 am

  5. ” 3 of our artist were actually born and raised in Alameda and still residing there. Our fourth artist to join also lives in Alameda. They hang out on Park St. all the time and know all the people and business owners there etc. Please take that in consideration. 4 of the 5 artist are Alameda residence.”

    They don’t want this guy to Open….UFR

    You have a few Competitors trying to stop someone from opening a Business in Alameda.

    I would just keep marketing the Hell out of your Product and use this as a huge Plus.

    Offer huge Discount for Fixing their “Mistakes”

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 9:09 am

  6. Personally, I think the idea of operating a tattoo removal business on Webster would be brilliant! A perfect complement to the existing tattoo businesses. Wake up with buyer’s remorse? That tattoo you thought was so cool when you got it at 25 starting to look a bit, um, stale at 45? Your fiancee Alan not happy with the “Forever Rodrigo” tattoo on your hip? Come on down to Untattoo You!

    Comment by Kristen — January 6, 2012 @ 9:34 am

  7. 2: John, I have been supporting small local businesses all of my life. Your cheap shot is rude, unjustified, and unsupported by the facts.

    Comment by Jon Spangler — January 6, 2012 @ 9:43 am

  8. To the owner of Inkes, don’t worry so much about the small minded Webster St. business owners that don’t want any competition. Go before the Planning Bd. and the council. I believe you will be treated fairly by the city.

    Comment by John P. — January 6, 2012 @ 9:52 am

  9. Jon Spangler you live in your own Private Idaho.

    Do you have any clue how much you are truly dispised by most who have lived here and have a clue of what is going on.

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 10:01 am

  10. John P

    I whole Heartedly Agree . I hope they reconsider .

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 10:04 am

  11. I frankly am disappointed with the direction that Webster Street is going. There was an exciting Webster Street Vision put forth last year, and I had hopes that we would be moving towards that vision. But instead we have an over abundance of nail salons, beauty shops and now looks like tattoo salons. There should be a retail strategy going on for Webster Street – especially in light of the fact that it’s so close to the proposed LBL 2nd campus. If there is a plan, I’d sure like to see it.

    Meanwhile, Alameda Landing is moving forward with an exciting 5th Street retail plan and Park Street I hear may be getting CVS Pharmacy and Chase Bank. Also later this month the Planning Board will be having a workshop on the North Park Street Code that is a pretty exciting plan that will help make Park Street a great destination.

    As far the tattoo salons – those residents who during the Webster Street visioning process described Webster Street as “Funky” is getting their wish!

    Comment by Karen Bey — January 6, 2012 @ 10:08 am

  12. I just want to clear up a misconception about tattoo establishments in the Park Street and Webster Street Districts. A little more than a year ago, the City Council modified the CC zoning ordinance at the request of WABA and PSBA. Tattoo establishments were part of the modification. The PSBA Board of Directors voted to allow tattoo establishments in second floor locations as a permitted use but not in a ground floor location at all. WABA’s position was to allow the establishments on the second floor as a permitted use, and on the ground floor with a use permit.

    The City went along with the recommendations of PSBA and WABA boards on the tattoo establishment issue. The City really had nothing to do with how tattoo establishments are addressed in the various districts. It was completely up to the respective Boards of Directors. I hope this clears up any misconceptions anyone might have about why tattoo establishments are addressed differently in the two districts.

    Best Regards,
    Robb Ratto
    Executive Director

    Comment by Robb Ratto — January 6, 2012 @ 10:28 am

  13. John, as to your comment in #9, what inspires you to say such hateful and malevolent things? I think we would do far better this year to concentrate on our opinions about the issues, and not take the cheap shots and try to be deliberately hurful to the people who may hold opinions that differ from ours. It contributes nothing to the veracity of your arguments to be nasty. Stick to the point you want to make and take personalities out of it, please.

    Comment by Kate Quick.ze — January 6, 2012 @ 10:38 am

  14. 9: And I love you, too, John. 🙂

    Comment by Jon Spangler — January 6, 2012 @ 10:46 am

  15. So Karen I don’t see any other businesses clamoring to come to Webster St. We are a different animal down here. At this point we have to take almost whatever we can get to build traffic on the street. At some point in the future as the economy comes back and development starts at the base or behind the tube, certain businesses will thin out and be replaced by others who will want to be on Webster. In the meantime permitted uses and use permits need to be handled by the planning bd. not other businesses. To have a retail strategy you have to have a demand for retail.

    Comment by John P. — January 6, 2012 @ 10:48 am

  16. I didn’t get the impression that Patch commenters from Alameda pushed this guy out. If you read all the comments you might notice that practicing tattoo artists were complaining about how the owner of this shop is clueless with regard to the code of conduct among tattoo people, which is well established and has a long history based in the origins of the art being outside the mainstream of social acceptance. Most of those commenters stated they work in Oakland. It didn’t appear that artists from existing Alameda shops were among those posting, though surely some of those commenters could be friendly with them, it’s s tight community. It’s not like restaurant owners don’t sometimes have the same issues when a business too similar to their own sets up shop too close. If you have any idea what kind of guy Ricky is and how he has gone about business for so long, it’s about quietly keeping his head down and grinding out a living, not threats and bravado. I doubt you would have seen him complaining at the Planning Board when he could be at his shop working.

    Free Market fans can crow all they want about how wonderful the supposedly free market is, but if you had a decent restaurant business and somebody set up competition with similar fair which caused you both to fail, you might want to argue that the market can be skewed by people with bad business sense and so the ideal of the “free market” being some perfect arbitrator of who deserves to succeed or fail is just that, an ideal, and one which is not as perfect as some like to claim.

    Back to tattoo. Maybe having a cluster of shops would have created some kind of synergy which would have made Webster a mini tattoo Mecca. Anything is possible, but if that happened then a lot more people who disdain tattoo would probably be unhappy. It appears the two existing businesses and Inkies are all different enough to maintain their own clientele, but I’m guessing Ricky’s would have suffered. There is no law that says just because Ricky’s has been here for decades that he should not have to compete with a business with more appeal and if you read Yelp reviews you might see that in the larger picture that is already the case. But for people new to being tattooed the choice may be proximity and price point.

    Tattoo started as back alley and until relatively recently it was not super lucrative trade. Traditionally tattoo artists were very covetous of business and it was hard to get an apprenticeship or learn how to build good machines, which is an art unto itself. Decades ago when equipment and supplies began to become available by mail order the old school tattooists flipped out. They had no idea what the future had in store. It may not seem unreasonable for a guy who is himself heavily tattooed to open a shop, but the reasons for the resentment are embedded in the effort it takes to apprentice oneself to the trade as a practicing artist. In short it’s about paying dues. If you don’t get that, the tattoo community doesn’t care. The Patch comments by “Black Eye” pretty much drives home the point. It’s vague what double entendre might be embedded in the choice of “Black Eye” as a moniker, but it seems like Inkies got the message.

    Comment by M.I. — January 6, 2012 @ 10:51 am

  17. 16 should have read ” it may not seem unreasonable for a guy who is heavily tattooed BUT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO TATTOO HIMSELF to set up a shop”
    to qualify that, there are some places where guys who weren’t the best tattooists will hire a stable of other artists and and quit tattooing themselves. In at least one city I can think of even open multiple shops in the same neighborhood!. They aren’t that popular among their peers either, but whether they can get away with it has to do with local politics among tattoo community more than other factors.

    Comment by M.I. — January 6, 2012 @ 11:05 am

  18. John P. I agree that the retail market is sluggish, but Alameda Landing is moving forward with a retail development plan with Target as their anchor. Webster Street should at the very least develop a plan they can implement when the retail market starts to improve.

    And I’m not saying Webster Street should replicate Park Street – but the idea is to create an environment that will attract retailers to move their businesses to Webster Street. My concern is that too many tattoo parlors could create the opposite effect.

    Comment by Karen Bey — January 6, 2012 @ 11:44 am

  19. Karen, I guess my argument is with the businesses on Webster st. As Rob stated a little less than a year ago the WABA Bd. sat down with the city and made an agreement. Now they want to change what they agreed to by circulating a petition to not allow a business to come to Webster St. It doesn’t matter if it is a Tattoo parlor or a beauty salon. A strategy is different from a petition every time you don’t like a new business. This is exactly what happened with the beauty salons.

    Comment by John P. — January 6, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

  20. Wonder why it is that free market competition does not work for restaurants:
    Mark’s world:

    “Free Market fans can crow all they want about how wonderful the supposedly free market is, but if you had a decent restaurant business and somebody set up competition with similar fair which caused you both to fail, you might want to argue that the market can be skewed by people with bad business sense and so the ideal of the “free market” being some perfect arbitrator of who deserves to succeed or fail is just that, an ideal, and one which is not as perfect as some like to claim.”

    But works just fine for the tattoo shops:

    “Maybe having a cluster of shops would have created some kind of synergy which would have made Webster a mini tattoo Mecca.”

    By the way, Mark, tattoo didn’t start in the back alley:

    bronze age
    In 1991, a five thousand year old tattooed man ‘ötzi the ice man’
    made the headlines of newspapers all over the world when
    his frozen body was discovered on a mountain between
    austria and italy. This is the best preserved corpse of that period ever found.
    the skin bears 57 tattoos: a cross on the inside of the left knee,
    six straight lines 15 centimeters long above the kidneys and
    numerous parallel lines on the ankles.
    the position of the tattoo marks suggests that they were probably
    applied for therapeutic reasons (treatment of arthritis).

    and the hot woman showing her tattoos on webster street, maybe:

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 12:14 pm

  21. Jack, you are the master of meaningless one-ups-manship. duh, I never heard of the frozen guy. Anybody who wasn’t so preoccupied in being a fat head would simply recognize that I was referring to tattoo in modern applications which got it’s foothold with whalers in the 19th century who picked up tattoos in Polynesia which then slowly permeated Western Culture through arcades, side shows and “back alley” shops. The guys in Polynesia and many other cultures around the world contrived tattoo independently at different times in history. Yeah, tattoo is as old as charcoal and a sharp stick.

    Many hard core tattoo people scoff at Ed Hardy’s foray into tattoo motif textiles, as crass commercialism, but there is no denying Ed has also paid his dues and is probably the original art school tattooist, or “arteest”. He learned a lot in an old school shop outside run b y an ex-Marine near Fort Bragg N.C. Emiko Omori originally did a documentary on Hardy called Tattoo City, but I can’t find much on that video now that this new one has come out.

    Comment by M.I. — January 6, 2012 @ 12:48 pm

  22. True, but if I spent my life’s savings to start a business on Webster Street and suddenly there are new businesses moving in that could have an adverse impact on my business; I would start a petition too. Where is the petition by the way? I’ll sign it.

    One community organization I admire is called the Rockridge Community Planning Council. Here is their mission:

    • Preserve and enhance the unique character of the Rockridge neighborhood of Oakland, California
    • Promote the health, safety, and quality of life of its residents
    • Furnish a forum for community involvement
    • Promote leadership and presentation of neighborhood interests

    The RCPC is a 14-member board of directors representing the Rockridge community to the City of Oakland and they have a lot of influence on what happens in their community. Organizations like these work – just take a look at College Avenue.

    Comment by Karen Bey — January 6, 2012 @ 12:54 pm

  23. Jack, that 5,000 year old guy died from bad pizza, it was found in his stomach. Also I believe he got some of those tattoos at RICKYS. and you thought you knew everything.

    Comment by John P. — January 6, 2012 @ 12:56 pm

  24. John P — I see you’re looking at it from the Planning Board view — it is a permitted use, and therefore should be allowed.

    But so is a Wal-Mart at Alameda Landing. That doesn’t mean people don’t have the right to organize against them if they don’t want them in their community.

    Comment by Karen Bey — January 6, 2012 @ 1:04 pm

  25. Karen: I’m not sure I understand what adverse impact Inkies would have on existing businesses except possibly the existing tattoo shops, but competition is something that is inherent in business in general.

    I know that you have been in favor of bring more “upscale” businesses to Alameda, I believe that Inkies has presented themselves as an “upscale” tattoo parlor, I think it would probably be a fairly good addition to Webster Street and bring welcome foot traffic to Webster to patronize other existing businesses. I imagine that an Inkies customer may not necessarily be a Ricky’s Tattoo or an Alameda Tattoo customer or vice versa.

    Comment by Lauren Do — January 6, 2012 @ 1:04 pm

  26. They do consider themselves upscale, but I guess I’m just not in to it…

    Located in Fremont, CA. Inkies Tattoo Studio is a high-end custom tattoo and full body piercing studio specializing in Asian, Americana, Portraits, Black and Gray/Color, Polynesian and Tribal Art that provide creative and artistic services in an upscale, high-end style environment. Our focus is quality custom tattoos and full body piercing. Tattoos and piercing are more accepted these days as a form of art and individual expression. Our goal is to cater these needs for the Bay Area and beyond.

    Comment by Karen Bey — January 6, 2012 @ 1:53 pm

  27. #9, it’s always easy to personally attack people anonymously. It’s classy.

    Your comment is out of sync with reality. While Jon S. and I have butted heads at times, he’s a kind, compassionate, passionate advocate who cares deeply about the community he lives in, and is well thought of throughout the City.

    Comment by JKW — January 6, 2012 @ 2:01 pm

  28. Webster Street is slowly feeling it’s way toward a better image and if we get a few breaks economically, it will get there eventually. One big problem in attracting retail is the poor condition of many of the buildings. Until landlords are willing to get rid of the moldy smells, uneven floors, and overall gloom that inhabits some of the interiors, many will stay away. One good sign is the continued effort at preserving and restoring the vintage painted and neon signs. These contribute character and identity. There is so much meaningful history associated with the street, I think the focus should be on playing up that aspect. I would love to see an authentic reproduction of the Neptune Beach tower installed, for instance. Why go to a shopping district rather than a mall, especially if that district is not all that convenient? You go for a more positive shopping experience; you go because it’s charming, interesting, and fun, and hopefully because the owner operated businesses provide better customer service. People with lots of money to spend (and I’m told they’re still out there) shop not so much out of necessity as for entertainment. An overall vision or strategy is good but a strong catalyst is needed to realize major change: once it was Croll’s gym, Neptune Beach, the Naval Air Station. What will it be this time? Maybe LBL, maybe something else. In any event, as a long time observer of the businesses on Park Street, if you don’t like the business that just opened, don’t worry, chances are it will be gone before you know it. No petition required.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — January 6, 2012 @ 2:07 pm

  29. 9. Jon and I have traded shots on numerous occasions and I bitch about him from time to time but your vitrol seems pretty extreme. (Linda, for instance, can be a lot meaner. But don’t take my word for it. Keep it up and you’ll be hearing from her! 😉

    Comment by Denise Shelton — January 6, 2012 @ 2:18 pm

  30. Karen, post 22, Webster St. and College Ave. are so very different, just look at the demographics.

    Post 24 your right.

    this thread is moot Inkies is gone.

    Comment by John P. — January 6, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

  31. Denise ,Church Lady and The Crew at Transform

    I apoligize for telling the Truth and Being Honest….I will wear my New I’m a fan of Jon Sprinkler T Shirt into the Bars and Resturants and see how many Tomatoes I catch from the Owners.

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  32. 21
    Thanks Mark, for correcting yourself and calling me a master for finding your error. I promise I’ll keep looking after your mal nincompoop rule breaking and maybe get Jenny Craig to work on my head.

    Tell you what, correct the first part of your maladroitness…the crack about free market, and we’ll call it even.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 3:54 pm

  33. #9. First of all it is not truthful. If you and your friends dislike someone that doesn’t mean that “everyone” does, it just means they don’t have your “like.” Secondly, even if it were, it was really mean to say it. I think it is really important to have some unexpressed thoughts, especially if expressing them is going to be hurtful to another person. That is what good manners is all about.

    Comment by Kate Quick.ze — January 6, 2012 @ 4:14 pm

  34. 28.
    I’m sorry the Webster St. image doesn’t fit your perception of what’s a ‘good image’, but realistically, what could be more Victorian than moldy smells, uneven floors and gloom.

    Frankly, I believe Webster St. is barely holding on to the atmosphere that made it so different from Park Street. East end folks may not have liked that atmosphere but those of us who lived here in the sixties and seventies know what I’m talking about and once the last vestiges are gone, it’s just another plastic banana retail shopping district.

    The more experts plan and strategize what Webster should become the more it loses character. It’ll never again be what it once was anyway, so have at it.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

  35. Aw, come on, quit picking on John. There is no editing ability available on this blog so spillover dialogue, though sometimes warranted, is posted without possibility of recall.

    Jon is…well Jon. He was probably the teacher’s pet in kindergarten. He can handle it.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 4:33 pm

  36. 33 Hey Kate, what’s that .ez mean?

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 4:34 pm

  37. We know what it meant in High School Jack…..EeeeeeZeeeeee

    I’m sure Church Lady has her own definition.

    Speaking of Nasty Kate….You have spewed Volumes on this blog.

    I apoligized anyway…I didn’t send him a Truck of Manure . I’m frkn Buying A Shirt

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 4:50 pm

  38. Church Lady this is what I was Referring to. I know many in Business are Upset about.

    13.Breathing cleaner, cigarette-smoke-free air will make walking on Park and Webster Streets safer and healthier for us.

    It will also increase our likelihood of patronizing bars and other establishments with smoking areas outdoors that we dare not patronize now for health reasons (allergies, asthma, and the risk of bronchitis).

    The “freedom” to smoke does not permit you to pollute other peoples’ air and lungs. Smoke migrates far from the source at will–through the air,through walls, through HVAC systems, and via other means, If you can contain it 100%, then go ahead and puff away. Until then, please follow the law.

    Comment by Jon Spangler — January 5, 2012 @ 1:54 pm


    I think Jack said it best. This City was alot better off without the Do Gooders . Your kinda mindset has chocked the life out of this City.

    Comment by John — January 5, 2012 @ 2:01 pm

    15.#13. Jon, I’m sure those bars and establishments can’t wait to see your smiling face……Yikes!

    Comment by J.E.A — January 5, 2012 @ 2:02 pm


    Would be like Bernie Madoff walking into a Madoff Investment Stockholder meeting after the fleecing.

    Comment by John — January 5, 2012 @ 2:17 pm

    17.He will need a raincoat to stop the ants from peeing on him.

    Comment by John — January 5, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

    18.13. Jon’s dream:

    “Breathing cleaner, cigarette-smoke-free air will make walking on Park and Webster Streets safer and healthier for us.”

    Better put your mask on Jon…

    “Mercury, sulfates, ozone, black carbon, flu-laced desert dust. Even as America 
tightens emission standards, the fast-growing economies of Asia 
are filling the air with hazardous components that circumnavigate the globe.”

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 5, 2012 @ 5:43 pm

    Comment by John — January 6, 2012 @ 5:05 pm

  39. Go git um John, they ain’t gonna botha scule kids no more…

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 5:52 pm

  40. Maybe it’s ez as in 1040

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 7:04 pm

  41. When I was in high school, girls were called “fast” who were what I think you call ez. I have never signed myself as such and one day it just appeared. Anyway, I have never had the “fast” or “ez” tag before. Adds some spice to my dreary life of rectitude and 45 year marriage to one (amazing and wonderful) great guy. Hope my 97 year old mom doesn’t find out!

    Comment by Kate Quick.ze — January 6, 2012 @ 7:31 pm

  42. Hey, way to go Kate! 45 for us too. Your mom would probably get a chuckle finding you were ez by accident.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 6, 2012 @ 8:52 pm

  43. Kate I’m sure you were a handful in High School…..I’m positive your Husband is up for Sainthood……Congrats to both you and Jack on 45 Years……….Kate Please send me 200 a week in small bills and I won’t say a word to your Mom Kate..LOL

    Comment by John — January 7, 2012 @ 12:29 am

  44. “…my dreary life of rectitude…”

    See what being a do-gooder awaits the young.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 7, 2012 @ 9:23 am

  45. welcome to the John and Jack Show, formerly known as Blogging Bayport. Maybe Jack should get first billing. depends on the day.

    Comment by M.I. — January 7, 2012 @ 9:30 am

  46. ez before rectitude…

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 7, 2012 @ 9:46 am

  47. Careful, Mark, you’re getting close…


    Firstly, everything excreted from the front and rear organs, for example breaking wind, breaks an ablution.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 7, 2012 @ 10:00 am

  48. Mark is Lead Singer for the Band whose hits include

    ” You Can Only See It My Way”

    “We Didn’t Teach You How To Critically Think so Shut to F Up”

    ” 10 20 30 40 50 or more were getting 95% of the Money and We Want More”

    Comment by John — January 7, 2012 @ 1:06 pm

  49. 43
    Thanks John, best ten bucks I ever spent, (that’s what it cost for a marriage license in Carson City at the time and even though I had to borrow the ten bucks from my wife’s mother and even though I never paid her back)

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 7, 2012 @ 5:23 pm

  50. Better to still owe her than to stiff her Jack….Its about 67.00 now with inflation. I’m sure Everyone came out great on the Deal.

    1967 were Interesting Times.

    We lost Two of our very close Neighbors who were shot down in Squadron in 67. The News From the Dreaded Black Limo decimated two families . One was a member of the Barnowls and Can’t remember the other.

    Anyway Thanks for Serving our Country Jack.

    Comment by John — January 7, 2012 @ 7:22 pm

  51. It’s nothing special joining the military, John. Most guys I knew back then joined without giving a thought about ‘serving their country’. It was usually just a place to go when running away from something. Personally, I just wanted to get out of Walla Walla.

    That’s not to disparage anyone joining having other reasons.

    1st best decision I made, 2nd was, like I said, 45 years ago when I borrow 10 bucks.

    Comment by Jack Richard — January 8, 2012 @ 8:13 pm

  52. FYI, Eve over at Patch just posted an update that Inkies has pulled their application.

    Comment by Lauren Do — January 9, 2012 @ 10:23 am

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