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September 8, 2011

Offend in every way

Filed under: Alameda, City Council — Lauren Do @ 6:05 am

Much like the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills premiere, the first real City Council meeting from the August recess did not disappoint.  First, the interesting, but less juicy stuff, the City Council will be having a bunch of special meetings in addition to their regular meetings in the next two months.

The first is a Labor Negotiation Workshop scheduled for September 27.  This is essentially a workshop for the public to understand how labor negotiations for public employee bargaining units actually happen and what is supposed to happen.  Additionally, this will be the opportunity for folks to say what they would like to see addressed during the closed negotiation sessions.   The current MOUs are available on the City’s website for review under the Human Resources tab and I believe one of the first contracts to be negotiated will be the Fire Management contract.

The second meeting scheduled for October 11 is the biggie so mark your calendars if you want to see people get upset all over again.   Yes, this will be the meeting to take public comment and rehash the Memorial Day Crown Beach drowning all over again.   But this time there will be an independent report that people can pick through.    The cynical side — the very small cynical side of me because I’m not generally very cynical — says that it really doesn’t matter what the report says because those who have already made up their minds about the events won’t really care what it says and will continue to believe what they want to believe.    The mainstream media will only take interest in the parts that point to a failure on the part of the “system” and the rest of the partisan City Hall watchers (I include myself in this batch) will selectively comb through the report and post whatever we find most “relevant.”   Relevant being of course highly subjective and probably will go toward proving our already preconceived opinions on the topic anyway.   So that report by Ruben Grijalva will be available on September 29 for folks to mark through and make side notes about in order to recite choice pieces during their public comments.

The third meeting is scheduled for October 25 and will be a budget meeting — yes already — City Management promised the last time around that they were going to start the budget discussion way early this time around and this definitely counts as early.   This meeting is so that people can start the discussion of what they want to see happen with the budget and the City will be taking input on the process as well as presenting a wrap up of the last budget process.

Okay, so for the good stuff.  So remember how I mentioned that Doug deHaan had placed on the agenda a Council Referral about confidentiality around the whole City Attorney selection process.   Well so here’s where the Council meeting got really good.  I have attached the whole video, but for those that prefer not to commit to watching the whole thing, here’s the selected transcript:

So, Doug deHaan goes through the Council Referral document, citing a concern about a lack of confidentiality in the whole identification of possible candidates.  The interesting thing is that he quickly seems to back away from the whole apparent reason for the Referral — aka the leaking of names during the City Attorney process — and instead seems to be more upset over this post by John Knox White which pointed out that the City had been not as forthright with the revealing details of the process for the City Attorney selection as they had been during the City Manager selection.   Of course, it’s unclear if Doug deHaan actually read the post by JKW, because in it, JKW does not ask for the names of individual candidates, but rather simply that the hiring process be made public — as Doug deHaan pointed out in his Council Referral should be made public.

He then asks the rest of the City Council to “recommit themselves” to the philosophy of confidentiality.

Beverly Johnson then says that she is “offended” by Doug deHaan’s suggestion that the Council isn’t committed to that.   And then Doug deHaan says “You should be offended, I would be offended too and was offended.”

So then Marie Gilmore asks why they need to recommit to something that everyone has already individually declared that they had already committed too and didn’t violate the confidentiality.

Then Doug deHaan asks “Did we have a breach?” and further clarifies that he is specifically talking about the leaking of one name of an alleged candidate for City Attorney.   This leads to a long presentation by the HR director of how the process works.

After that presentation Doug deHaan says “I think we all owe it to ourselves to uphold that, I believe the staff did exactly what they had to do and I believe and I recognize and honor what they stated.  And so I do express that there is and have been a concern by the Mayor and other people and I think it’s time that we recommit to that.”

Beverly Johnson then says “I’m still bothered by this, you’re saying a lot, you’re trying to be vague and ambiguous…but by being vague and ambiguous and by you saying that we all need to commit you’re essentially accusing us of leaking the information.  When we’ve had this discussion as a Council and we were all very disturbed about the leaking and now that you’ve eliminated everybody but the Council by saying that the staff did what they were supposed to do and so it must be one of the four of us cause you’re indicating that you’re committed and we all — the rest of the four of us — need to recommit.  So, again, I’m pretty offended by that…

Doug deHaan: Be offended, you should be offended.

Beverly Johnson: I was probably more offended than you about the leaks.

The last two lines they are talking over one another.

More chatter and then Beverly Johnson says, “The thing I am taking offense to is that you are sitting there accusing the other four of us when I think, probably, that we all have different opinions on how things got leaked.  And I’m sure each one of us up here, each of the five of us have our own theory about how things got leaked and you’re accusing the other four of us and you’re trying to eliminate yourself from that pool of possibilities and probably the other four of us have not eliminated you from that pool.”


Essentially this was Beverly Johnson’s roundabout way of saying, look, of the five of us, you are the closest to the person who published the leaked information.   It is less likely that any of us would have gone to that particular blogger to give him sensitive information when he would more likely than not make that the story of the hour rather than make the name of the City Attorney candidate the story.

After more discussion, it sounds like this whole Council Referral item was a bit of a tit for tat situation for Doug deHaan who backed away from really talking about where the information was leaked and who published the info.   From piecing together the dialogue amongst the Council, particularly Mayor Marie Gilmore and Doug deHaan it sounded like during a closed session when they discussed the leaked name Marie Gilmore might have suggested that Doug deHaan was the source.  See reference above to him being “offended too” in response to Beverly Johnson saying she was offended.  And Marie Gilmore admitted that she had suggested that he was the source of the leaked name.    It appears that during this closed session, after Doug deHaan said that he wasn’t the source of the leak Marie Gilmore apologized for accusing him.

Apparently, Doug deHaan was not happy about being confronted in front of the rest of the other City Council members and didn’t consider that “to his face.”   Let me just add that to someone’s face would indicate that they weren’t talking behind that person’s back, as opposed to Doug deHaan’s belief that to someone’s face means that it should be without witnesses.

The way this all concluded, it seems as though Doug deHaan wanted a public apology for a slight that he believed occurred during a private meeting.   So essentially, the whole exercise was pointless, but entertaining.


  1. >>> each of the five of us have our own theory about how things got leaked

    I would love to hear those theories.

    Comment by Regular John — September 8, 2011 @ 6:50 am

  2. Yes, friends, it’s Back to School night and we’re in kindergarten.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — September 8, 2011 @ 6:53 am

  3. How does one talk in public about something that was discussed in closed session that did not involve a vote or outcome that had to be announced, per the Brown Act? One does not bring it up in open session, because it is not supposed to be discussed in public. This matter had to do with a hiring process, and that is a closed session matter, unless there is a vote to hire someone, or a direction to staff given that would be announced publicly. I watched this council meeting from home and wished that this public airing of a closed session matter had not taken place.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 8, 2011 @ 7:08 am

  4. If this is how they Act in Public I can’t imagine how Ugly they are in Private Sessions.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 8:31 am

  5. I know how they regard the speakers that step up in a meeting so I’m sure they hold their opinions in very high regard privately in meetings.

    If Sh-t was electricity we would be a power company. Oh we are.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  6. That discussion was just a bunch of bulls**t. They (except for Tam; she was silent as near as I could tell from watching online) whined and moaned about being accused and offended, but not a one of them took the next logical step. In the time honored tradion of Alameda politics, they (one of them, probably DeHaan, since he opened the can of worms in the first place) should have called for an investigation to discover the leaker. Bring on the truth serum! Bring on the private, retired-police-type investigator! Bring on the DA! This Council is close to worthless, certainly feckless, and probably corrupt (whoops, is that a legal term?) to boot. We should take a hint form the Romans; build a colosuem (probably out on the Pointe, because it will fall into ruin anyway), install our Councilmembers, past CM’s,past ICM’s, past CA’s, past Interim Fire Chief, (let me see, who else is suing us?), SunCal, Cowan, perhaps a PIO, the ff union, then season with a DA, a bunch of outside law firms and lions and tigers, and let our citizens entertain themselves by viewing the resulting spats, fights, and court cases.

    Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — September 8, 2011 @ 9:28 am

  7. Watching from the cheap seats is now getting very expensive . As we watch them start selling off assets to payoff the people who corrupted them.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 9:50 am

  8. We didn’t spend money on maintance and now buildings breaking down. Drive down Guadalara Road opps I mean Harbor Bay Parkway and get the feel of real Mexico

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 9:54 am

  9. Don’t worry about little things like maintance we want to make sure our Fire Dept Guys can retire at 50-55 and get the equivalent of 5 -10 houses paid for for their service to our Citizens. 1/2 a call a day is pretty taxing on them individually. Plus look at how they treated their own by ostracizing one and costing us another 650K. Looks like Ray Zack got ostracized also….Plus they Gave the new CM a ride of Firetruck for 4th of July Parade. They are the real Givers to the community……..Gilmore Bonta Tam Johnson don’t know how to say thanks for your contribution to their campaign. Oh yes they do they gave you another unsustainable contract.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 10:49 am

  10. Yes they Offend in Everyway Lauren.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 10:57 am

  11. We now have gone full circle and have a City run for the Benefit of the Employees and Not for the Citizens. Enjoy your Friday off. We wouldn’t ecpect you to work 5 days. I know your all so underpaid and over worked.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 12:45 pm

  12. John, I believe that the Friday City Hall closures were to consolidate the 4 day work schedule that most City Hall staff were already on due to budget cuts. Some people were off on Mondays the others were off on Fridays, this just allows everyone to be in the office together, but the four-day work week for most staff is not new, think of it as a furlough.

    Comment by Lauren Do — September 8, 2011 @ 12:50 pm

  13. So everyone took a 20% pay cut for the good of the City I can assume then Lauren.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 1:14 pm

  14. This is like watching Enron and Lehman Implode in Slow motion.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 2:00 pm

  15. They all made sure they got their money and took care of their “Friends” before the inevitable.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  16. A furlough (pronounced /ˈfɜrloʊ/; from Dutch: “verlof”) is a temporary leave of absence from employment, duty in the armed services, or from a prison term. A furlough from prison may also be part of a work release program.

    pay cut – the act of reducing a salary salary cut – the act of reducing the amount or number; “the mayor proposed extensive cuts in the city budget”

    I believe most are on Salary. So did they take a 20% cut in salary

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 2:15 pm

  17. Just doing my part to get 10 out of every 11 posts to be by a John.

    Comment by Regular John — September 8, 2011 @ 2:19 pm

  18. So to help you out “regular John” I will throw in a John post also. To separate myself from JOHN the troll I think I will change my name on this blog to “Mr. Piziali to you”, no more John for me.

    Comment by Mr. Piziali to you — September 8, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

  19. So which was the leaked name, Reyes or Wan? No one ever tells me anything. In related news, did anyone notice the poor woman murdered in Maui was city Atty of 3 Calif cities:Sta Cruz, Capitola, &1/2moon Bay? 3 new job openings.

    Comment by vigi — September 8, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

  20. john,

    you should read the City’s documents on the 4-day work week before jumping to such erroneous conclusions. Staff continues to work full-time.

    Comment by John Knox White — September 8, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

  21. I believe that they were discussing a possible leak, not the mis-identification of an individual from a suit and the back of his head.

    Comment by Lauren Do — September 8, 2011 @ 4:17 pm

  22. There is no evidence of there even being a leak. There were 8 applicants originally set to be interviewed, one name got out there, but it’s unlikely that any of the councilmembers that deHaan accused on Tuesday were the source. Besides, the question that was never answered was “was there a breach” in confidentiality.

    Oddly, it was asked by Councilmember deHaan.

    As was pointed out at the meeting, the outed candidate was personally contacting community members to build support for his application. Neither staff, nor councilmember, were required to get that information out into the public sphere.

    Comment by John Knox White — September 8, 2011 @ 4:23 pm

  23. I was just told it was a Furlough.

    Whats wrong with 8-5 five days a week like most working in real world. .I believe the City is in the Service industry to work for the Citizens of Alameda. Or is it a regional thing here that we pay double national average according to BLS government statistics and give four day work weeks. I’m totally naive to this mindset but thanks for straightening me out John. I’m sure there is a pretty picture that was painted by the Employees that this is best for all it’s Citizens.

    Comment by John — September 8, 2011 @ 4:32 pm

  24. 19. Vigi — Celestial Cassman, the attorney that was murdered in Maui was an employee of a law firm,, not of the three cities you mentioned. Her firm provides legal counsel on public and municipal law to a number of cities.

    Comment by Dan — September 8, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

  25. Big surprise to all those who like to bash the public servants as lazy louts. There are many ways to work nowadays. Some folks do 10 hrs a day for four days, some do flex-time, some even, gasp! work from home or the field part of the time, using computers and mobile devices. And when money is tight, many jurisdictions cut back and require “furlough” (unpaid) leave time. So before your daggers are unsheathed, why don’t you check with Mr. Russo or Ms. Karen Willis in HR and find out how many hours staff and management are required to work per week under their various contracts, and how many days of unpaid leave they have been asked to take. Also, what their raises have been over the past say, five years, and what their benefits are.

    See you at the Jam Lauren! Will also be at Angela’s at 5:30 tonight for the Friday Night Flight benefitting the League of Women Voters. Two glasses of fine wine for $10.! Hope to see folks there, too.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 9, 2011 @ 6:40 am

  26. Kate don’t let facts get in the way of you criticizing me for pointing out the obvious. We are a City in a very bad way financially .Look at pay increases since Sept 2001.

    You have so many costs that have been deferred and now we are looking at assets to sell to support a broken system. The State County and City are all in same boat. But you want to keep putting more cement shoes on the Citizens as you throw them overboard to support these compensation packages and never conceding they are way out of line.

    This is from BLS on local government pay…

    Median hourly wages of the largest occupations in state and local government, excluding education and hospitals, May 2008 Occupation

    Local government

    Police and sheriff’s patrol officers

    $24.53 Hr

    Fire fighters

    21.54 Hr

    Court, municipal, and license clerks

    15.55 hr

    Executive secretaries and administrative assistants

    20.13 hr

    Highway maintenance workers

    16.16 hr

    Secretaries, except legal, medical, and executive

    15.68 hr

    Maintenance and repair workers, general

    17.11 hr

    Office clerks, general

    13.82 hr

    SOURCE: BLS Occupational Employment Statistics, May 2008.

    The International City/County Management Association (ICMA) reported the 2008 median annual salaries of selected executive and managerial occupations in local government (see table 4).

    Table 4. Median annual salary for selected executive and managerial occupations in local government, July 2008 Occupation

    City manager/Chief administrative officer

    Assistant chief administrative officer


    Information services director

    Fire chief

    Chief financial officer

    Human resources director


    Human services director

    Economic development director

    Parks and recreation director

    Public works director

    Health officer

    Purchasing director

    Chief librarian

    Chief law enforcement official


    Median annual wages of fire fighters were $44,260 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $31,180 and $58,440. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $22,440, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $72,210. Median annual wages were $44,800 in local government, $45,610 in the Federal Government, $25,300 in other support services, and $37,870 in State governments.

    Median annual wages of first-line supervisors/managers of fire fighting and prevention workers were $67,440 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $53,820 and $86,330. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $40,850, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $108,930. First-line supervisors/managers of fire fighting and prevention workers employed in local government earned a median of about $69,000 a year.

    According to the International City-County Management Association, average salaries in 2008 for sworn full-time positions were as follows:

    Position Minimum annual base salary Maximum annual base salary
    Fire chief $78,672 $104,780
    Deputy chief 69,166 88,571
    Battalion chief 66,851 81,710
    Assistant fire chief 65,691 83,748
    Fire captain 60,605 72,716
    Fire lieutenant 50,464 60,772
    Engineer 48,307 62,265

    Comment by John — September 9, 2011 @ 7:36 am

  27. Kate you want me to ask someone that makes twice the national average about salaries and compensation at the City and get her advice and opinion.

    Median Salary of Human resources director 2008 Nationally


    Willis Karen L. Human resources Human resources director

    Total Gross Earnings 2008 175,759.86

    City Pers Contribution 20,707.03

    Total salary and pension 202,056.11

    Comment by John — September 9, 2011 @ 7:56 am

  28. I think what a person makes in salary and benefits does not have anything to do with the knowledge they may have that you may need. I did not think the facts were made straight, so I asked you to check on them. Simple as that. Who, and their salary/benefits is irrelevant to the information they may possess that might help. Your “averages” have some irrelevance, too, but others have already pointed that out. Do a salary survey of like positions in the cities of similar size and composition in the 9 Bay Area counties. Throw out the highest and the lowest and take an average of the remainder. That is what municipal HR departments typically do to set salaries and benefits. Make sure when you do that that the job descriptions are similar; not just the titles.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 9, 2011 @ 9:09 am

  29. Kate everyone of those cities and counties are broke……Comparing those numbers is like comparing Nine Bankrupt companies.

    Comment by John — September 9, 2011 @ 11:27 am

  30. Look at the Market Kate. Call Pers and ask them how the retirement funds are doing

    Comment by John — September 9, 2011 @ 11:29 am

  31. John, you have been making arguments that make it sound as if Alameda were way out of whack in what we pay our civil servants, particularly using nationwide averages. I am making the argument that we are not so out of whack. I have not made any argument that what we pay is right or wrong; just that it is pretty much in line with what others make. There is another layer, called recruitment and rentention that is important. You may believe that there are a zillion highly qualified people out there willing to work for minimal wages, but it is not that simple. For example, of the hundreds of people who wish to be firefighters or police officers, only a handful can pass the written, physical and background checks to even qualify. Then they have to pass the academy, which is not easy. Due to recent layoffs, I agree that the pool of qualified applicants may be a bit bigger than usual, but not so much that giving them minimal wages and scanty benefits will attract them to work here.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 9, 2011 @ 12:25 pm

  32. John,

    you complain and spam about the School District providing averages in reporting their teacher pay, but then turn around and base all of your arguments against livable wages on national averages that are extremely disconnected from your arguments.

    shouldn’t there be similar standards for your data and the information that you want others to provide?

    Comment by John Knox White — September 9, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  33. To tell you the truth I don’t even read his posts when he throws all that s–t against the wall. It is obvious that few if any people in Alameda will ever hear or care about what JOHN says on this blog. Only the five or ten of us that check this thing out every day, and very few of us agree with anything he says.

    Comment by Mr. Piziali to you — September 9, 2011 @ 1:58 pm

  34. Kate’s comments remind me of another survey methodology.

    That wage survey was quite some time ago which I was asked to participate in during my tenure at NADEP at NAS. It was a ‘blue collar’ wage survey and the methodology required teams of various trade workers visit private industry plants employing blue collar workers to determine our geographical area trade wages. This information, in turn, was used by OPM in DC to set government blue collar wages in any given region based on the prevailing wage of like jobs in that region.

    Sounds like a reasonable method, much like Kate mentioned in # 28, “Do a salary survey of like positions in the cities of similar size and composition in the 9 Bay Area counties”. The way it really worked, which I wasn’t aware of prior to participating, was quite eye opening.

    The Bay Area is known throughout the country as a high wage area. Add another word to ‘high wage’ and it becomes an obscenely high wage area. That word, of course is ‘union’. Even though tons of workers in the Bay Area were not unionized they still worked in the same trade as union workers yet were making half the wage.

    If there’s anything government workers know, it’s how to feather their own nest. First thing I learned doing the survey was if the plant wasn’t unionized, don’t survey it. This skewed the results to the highest possible wage for any given trade.

    I learned later that this method didn’t just effect the blue collar (WG) wages which were skewed upwards but also white collar (GS Supervisory) wages at the NADEP. Here’s how. GS Schedule employees are under a completely different pay determining procedure than blue collar. Title 5 US Code covers the GS jobs while OPM has delegated DOD under the prevailing wage system to determine blue collar wages. So how could blue collar wages affect white collar, you ask.

    The GS pay schedule has 10 steps, the WG 5 steps. Step 2 of the WG rate is 100% of the locality prevailing wage for that trade. Each step (time driven) increases above the prevailing rate until step 5 which is 12% above the prevailing rate.

    This situation resulted in WG workers making more per hour than their Supervisor (GS). So a rule was passed that a Supervisor (GS) could not make less than their highest paid worker (WG). A GS -11 step 5, for instance if promoted to Supervisor, would find himself as a GS-12 step 7 or 8. That’s large bump up. This bump-up effected pay rates on up the GS pay schedule.

    This situation was not replicated anywhere else in the country. I used to travel to many military facilities with a WG/GS NADEP mix workforce. Alameda was by far a much higher wage enterprise and was doing the same type work. Believe me, things mostly were just as expensive at those other places as here.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 9, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

  35. We still don’t know how JKW knows all the things he says, except by receiving Closed session Agenda packets from lena Tam that he refuses to give back to the city attorney.
    When are you gonna admit you were wrong abt Alameda hospital NOT doing a questionable job, LDo?

    Comment by vigi — September 9, 2011 @ 4:33 pm

  36. 34

    So you purposely hid relevant data to boost your salary? What is the statute of limitations on fraud?

    Comment by dave — September 9, 2011 @ 5:53 pm

  37. 36
    You got room in prison for 8000 civil servants? We’d end up owning the joint.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 9, 2011 @ 6:09 pm

  38. I’m not sure which is more shocking, that a man who howls about paying taxes brazenly defrauds taxpayers, or that he blithley admits it in public.

    Comment by dave — September 9, 2011 @ 6:46 pm

  39. Taxpayers are born to be defrauded, it’s the name of the game at every level. My advice is wake up.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 9, 2011 @ 6:50 pm

  40. Classy

    Comment by dave — September 9, 2011 @ 6:58 pm

  41. I describe how the real system works and, believe me it’s no different here, what’s the response. An ankle biting series of one sentence snarky (but real classy) bon mots. All things considered, how else could it be?

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 9, 2011 @ 7:07 pm

  42. Is there a rule that any comments critical of Kate will be removed?

    Kate, I still think that your thinking about government salaries will result in the bankruptcy of Alameda.

    Comment by Bernice Wong — September 9, 2011 @ 8:30 pm

  43. #42. No, dear, Kate gets many critical comments, some of them quite personal that have nothing to do with the issues she is trying to discuss as issues, not as personalities.

    As to the discussion about salaries of civil servants, I clearly stated that I was giving NO opinion on whether the salaries we pay here or anywhere else were too high, too low or just right. I was only explaining how such salaries are determined. In Alameda County, the rules governing salary surveys were the purvue of the Civil Service Commission and the Human Resources department. I agree that the pension obligations we have now, especially in the public safety classifications, are unsustainable in our current economic situation. I am not sure how we can best correct that situation, but I do think that just bashing all civil servants for being lazy no good greedy louts isn’t it. Surely we can, as a community, do better than that. Just as in all professions, there are those who provide great service and those who don’t. We also need to recall that no matter what was asked for in negotiations, it was our Councils who, for many years, approved the final contracts. The mess we have now was created over many, many years when City coffers were much fatter and it was inconceivable that the money wouldn’t be there some day. Our current Council is dealing with a problem that goes back several councils ago.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 9, 2011 @ 10:08 pm

  44. 32

    JKW we don’t know what the people in the AUSD make. They won’t expose it. There are 3-400 people in district that aren’t teachers . What are their total compensation packages.

    I really don’t care anymore……Burnt out from all the BS

    This is not a place I want to live anymore.

    Comment by John — September 10, 2011 @ 12:37 am

  45. I wish everyone the Best…….This is a fabulous Community and I enjoyed living here the Last 50……… I wish I would not have asked a Simple Question to our School Board in trying to figure out how I was going to Vote on Measure A and possibly get information to try and resolve the Budget Issues with the Schools . What I learned about the Politics of this City and what has been going on in the City was a major eye opener. Everything will come out in the wash. I certainly don’t have all the answers but i’m sure youalllllllll will figure it out. Thanks Jack for keeping me semi sane in trying to put the puzzle together. You are a Jewel to this City. Lauren thanks for allowing me to give my opinion even though I know you wanted to cut my throat at times.LOL

    Thanks and Good luck

    In Highest Regards


    Comment by John — September 10, 2011 @ 1:21 am


    I will be opening an account at Alameda Bank Tomorrow and will Fund it with 10% of the 3400 needed to buy this Girl a New Walker. It will be from the Memorial Golf Tournament that we run and I can think of no better way to use the remaining funds to help this girl walk.
    If anyone wants to join me the account should be ready by monday and we will just give the money to buy new walker to the family.

    Enjoy the Jam!

    Comment by John — September 10, 2011 @ 1:51 am

  47. John,

    Let me know how to contribute. send me an email.

    Comment by John Knox White — September 10, 2011 @ 7:38 am

  48. John, I hope you reconsider. There are not many here with alternate opinions and one fewer leaves the other two or three of us lonley.

    I saw the stolen walker article in the Sun and instead of buying beer at the Jam today I’m donating the beer cost to the little girl walker fund.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 10, 2011 @ 9:23 am

  49. Same here, John. I would be happy to contribute; just give us the name of the account at Alameda Bank. And enjoy spending your day crunching those numbers posted on the AUSD web site.

    Comment by Kate Quick. — September 10, 2011 @ 9:25 am

  50. Jack, even if numerically the over all the majority of individuals posting here can be classified as allied to Lauren, there are still days when the majority of people posting are critical. That’s a majority of individuals, not posts, so I am not counting John’s Twitter like posts and spamming. Even if you account for sock puppetry, which none of us readers can do with any veracity, don’t make out that you are among only one or two lonely souls. Over the three plus years there have been plenty. If you are out numbered it’s hardly a product of minority view being bullied into submission as some try to claim. The dissenting voices here are sometime the most vociferous and at times most crass. Your erudite contributions being the exception, of course. If you feel too battered and bruised you can always steep yourself in the soothing glow of Fox TV. The first expert pundit they interviewed to speak about Obama’s jobs speech was none other than that whining yap Sarah Palin. I don’t generally read Action Alameda, but do you comment over there? Seems that would cure your loneliness or is it more fun to have somebody with whom to argue?

    Comment by M.I. — September 10, 2011 @ 10:37 am

  51. 50
    Thanks Mark, for setting me straight. Though I may not agree with you, you being a Marksist and me an individual, I certainly do get a kick out of reading you. But I no longer feel lonley.

    I think, though, it’s time you and yours moved on from Palin to rag on. I know it was Bush for a long time and then Palin but you should begin thinking about the next potus election and, at this point, neither are running. Better switch gears and head to either texas or massa and ply your trade in those areas.

    No, I do not read or comment at Action Alameda, this place is enough for me. However, I did stop in and chit chat with the ACT reps at their table this afternoon at the Jam. Hung around waiting for a table overturning but didn’t happen. Oh, and the lady running against Lee in the next congressional race, chatted with her a bit. Good to hear fresh ideas around here. Tired of the moribund stuff trying to pass itself off as progressive.

    Didn’t see anybody I knew except for my Wild Women niece at her purse booth. Not even Mr Piziali to you, who I enjoyed listening to at last year’s Jam where all the excitement was.

    Listened to the drums of the Cougar Cadet Corps (corpse to your boss) after watching their dunking booth. The dunking booth gave me a bright idea. It struck me that if Kate would volunteer to sit on the dunk chair, there’d be beaucoup balls hanging around paying good money to have at her. Could donate the proceedings, perhaps to get to the bottom of the outbreak of insanity arrests that doesn’t seem to be subsiding. Ten in this week’s Sun.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 10, 2011 @ 3:52 pm

  52. Hmm.. I just signed on to a library computer, did NOT open my mailbox,[so only the libe PC should know who i am], haven’t entered any passwords, just pulled up this website & discovered my name & email preprinted in the ID boxes below! How did that happen? This isn’t even the same terminal I sat at last! Either LDo has superpowers far beyond that of mortal man or my name would come up no matter who pulled up BBA. Anyone could be posting as “vigi”. That’s ID theft. And some of you wonder why I use an alias? Seriously I wonder how you could use your real names!
    Jack:I checked an old Sun (july 17, 2011) for insanity arrests/there weren’t ANY. I too wonder why the sudden uptick. Mass conversion of secondary syphilis cases to tertiary?
    Everyone be sure & call in /email your opinion on the Golf Swap to the Sun [see bottom OpEd page]. And George Bush made a downright inspirational speech @ the Flight 93 memorial on Cspan today, M.I. Ushould listen to it.

    Comment by vigi — September 10, 2011 @ 4:19 pm

  53. You are right vigi. This outbreak of insanity just began three or four weeks ago. I mentioned above that I stopped in at the ACT table and they started in with me on their reason of the day – the Ron Cowen land swap thing. I told them I didn’t care a hoot about that but they should attempt to get to the bottom of this insanity thing. Strangely enough they agreed. Said they had already done some preliminary research, ie. talked to the Sun editor – who said the police would not expand on the subject and basically shut him off.

    Also they tried to find something out via the various contacts they have around town…nothing except rumor is that it’s a ‘catch all’ charge police use to pick up anybody they want. I told them, I was not buying that answer and they should get to the bottom of it. The two ladies at the table agreed and took it for action so I expect an answer shortly.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 10, 2011 @ 5:19 pm

  54. I’ll be so glad when we have some real news.

    Comment by dlm — September 10, 2011 @ 8:22 pm

  55. 51. Perry and Romney are almost too pathetic to take seriously, though it’s amazing that others do. Perry has a rep as a take no prisoners campaigner, but what an idiot. Mitt simply has no balls or principles at all, a total cardboard cut out. Don’t get me started on “our” guy Obama. He and Dems blew it pre-mid term when the caved on Bush tax cuts when they had a majority. All down hill since then. You seem to imply that being a Markist is less than being independent. Piffle!

    As a history buff you may appreciate this piece from the New Yorker. The part about neo-con types trying to imply that Iraq invasion attributed to Arab Spring is interesting.

    Comment by M.I. — September 11, 2011 @ 10:34 am

  56. I agree with Mark on Obama- the GOP owns him now. We’re going to be in deep doodoo in November when this Super Committee reports back, because they won’t have come to any agreement, unless the dem’s do all the agreeing. The republicans will not give an inch. Obama should have stood up to them on the debit extension. Sure, it would have plunged us into uncharted territory and financial armageddon (sp?), but what’s the difference, either a few months ago or in November? Either way, we’re toast. Best start buying gold dubloons.

    Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — September 11, 2011 @ 11:16 am

  57. That’s ‘debt extension’, but ‘debit extension’ probably works as well.

    Comment by Not. A. Alamedan — September 11, 2011 @ 11:17 am

  58. 56. debt ceiling was really scarey shit and even if the reasons for Republicans fight was BS, the negative impacts of default are something I still hate to think about, which is why I said they should have made their stand on letting Bush tax cuts for wealthy lapse. Being push overs on tax cuts just emboldened Republicans to go for broke.

    another blogger FWD this article which is very long, but it was a total mind bender and must read.

    Comment by M.I. — September 11, 2011 @ 2:07 pm

  59. Excellent article — very scary.

    “If Republicans have perfected a new form of politics that is successful electorally at the same time that it unleashes major policy disasters, it means twilight both for the democratic process and America’s status as the world’s leading power.”

    Comment by dlm — September 11, 2011 @ 4:49 pm

  60. 55
    I do not know what a “history buff” is, so make no claim to be one. But, in my non-historian opinion, your link is most definitely not history, it’s speculative opinion that criticizes a book the author of which he despises…and, I’d guess, so do you.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 11, 2011 @ 5:30 pm

  61. The second expert pundit…

    “The first expert pundit they interviewed to speak about Obama’s jobs speech was none other than that whining yap Sarah Palin.”

    Pundit # 2:
    Rolling Stone magazine’s Matt Taibbi, during the Democratic presidential primaries in 2007:
    All love stories are beautiful at the beginning, and what we’re witnessing now is the beginning of a new one: America and Barack Obama…For most of this campaign season, I doubted that Obama really was that new something. Now I’m not so sure he isn’t. Whoever Barack Obama is, there’s no doubting the genuineness of his phenomenon. And maybe, who knows, that’s all that matters.

    Taibbi last Tuesday:

    I was hours early for a flight and stuck in a relatively small terminal crammed with people. Only one area in the whole wing had empty seats; an unused gate that contained a TV blaring the CNN broadcast of Obama’s Labor Day speech at full volume. So it was either sit underneath a full-volume broadcast of our fearless president bellowing out his latest hollow promises, or the hellish alternative: retreat to gates full of screaming five year-old children, all of them jacked up on sugar and bawling their eyes out because it was the end of Labor Day weekend and their cruel parents were dragging them home from Disneyworld.

    I chose the children.

    Comment by Jack Richard — September 11, 2011 @ 8:31 pm

  62. JKW, Jack and Church Lady,

    I had to leave for a few days out of state for some sanity and crunch a few golf balls and just got back. I contacted Sam @ the Sun and requested he give me information on where to send a donation in regards to the walker that was stolen. I see where a company has stepped up and will be delivering a new Walker on Monday. I am still going to send a donation to the family for some Atheltic Equipment or anything she can use to help in her development.

    Jack your covered.

    Church Lady just send all the money you steal from the collection plates using those Lady Gaga Gloves coated in superglue you use when the plate passes you by.

    JKW I tried to email you but couldn’t find link or contact on your blog.

    Lauren you Now have the Coke recipe….and Posted it…….How frkn hard was that and why didn’t they want to post it…….Mike McMahon …Margie Sherrat …Ect…..You frkn crepes owe me 6 months of time and 10 shovels and 100 snorkles for just trying to deflect Brown 25’s constant dumps and gas passing.

    Comment by John — September 14, 2011 @ 11:17 pm

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