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July 13, 2011

Lab it up

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Point, Business, Development — Tags: — Lauren Do @ 6:01 am

Given that the big Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory meeting is tonight, I thought I would talk about some of the questions that have come up around the project if Alameda is selected for LBNL’s second campus.

But, as a refresher, the meeting is tonight at the Auctions by the Bay Theater at Alameda Point, it starts at 6:00 with a BBQ on the big lawn and then a public meeting at 7:00 in the theater itself.  The organizers are asking people to wear green in support of the project, but I imagine that if you have outstanding questions about the project this is the perfect opportunity to get some clarity about what the City is offering.

Commenter Al W. had some great questions about the possible impact of Lawrence Berkeley National Lab if they decide to choose Alameda for the second campus.   So I thought I would try to take a shot at answering some of the questions raised.

…who will pay to bring in the sewer, water, telecom and power lines to their new site, and at what cost to Alameda? Who will build the new roads?

So Alameda Point is — as we all know — brownfield.  Meaning that there is existing infrastructure currently on the site.   The state of the infrastructure varies.  According to one meeting, Staff mentioned that some of the infrastructure on that particular site was newer than the rest of Alameda Point.

With the probable and possible elimination of Redevelopment dollars, the City technically would be on the hook for providing the new infrastructure, although the assumption is that everything is negotiable with LBNL.   But also the point of bringing on a development team (aka the people who developed the Mission Bay project) is that future development projects would also provide funding for needed infrastructure on the site.

How will Alameda pay for the maintenance of the infrastructure going forward, how will we pay for the police and fire protection going forward?

More likely than not, depending on the type of development, there could be a maintenance district formed like Harbor Bay has to pay for the maintenance of infrastructure.   If housing is eventually a part of the larger master plan of the site, forming a Municipal Services District as formed in Bayport would pay for infrastructure and public safety services.

Does LBL have their choice of land out at the Pointe?

The City of Alameda has already selected a parcel at Alameda Point for the potential LBNL project.   It’s a section around the Seaplane Lagoon.  It is one of the “cleaner” parcels at Alameda Point.

How do we plan infill around a major research center? Who will want to be located near them? Can we build homes, schools next to a research center safely?

Alameda has brought on board the Mission Bay Development Group as part of the development team which will be tasked essentially with helping to plan infill around the LBNL campus.  Certainly one of the major draws of a large campus user like LBNL is that it begets (or rather we hope it begets) additional uses for companies that will want to be located around a campus like LBNL.  That it will act like a catalyst to spur future development.    LBNL commissioned an economic impact report, located here which details the direct and indirect economic impact of their second campus being located to a new site.

What kind of research will they be doing; what kind of toxics might be involved; how safe is it? How will any toxics be gotten to the site, and how will toxic waste be disposed of?

Richard Bangert pointed to this website which had a list of past accomplishment resulting from their research and here is a list of their various scientific divisions.   With regard to toxics, I don’t have an answer, but maybe someone else has an answer for that one.


  1. According to Eric Fonstein, “the catered menu will include:
    Sliders/Cheese Burgers/Veggie Burgers/corn/dessert/lemonade type of drinks.”

    Comment by Jon Spangler — July 13, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  2. “The organizers are asking people to wear green in support of the project,…”

    I thought we were supposed to wear blue and ‘yellow’ in order to support something. Maybe they should change to green and yellow then the A’s could spin off a new phantom stadium next to the phantom Lab.

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 13, 2011 @ 8:45 am

  3. We could call the joint ‘Labium Point’, maybe.

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 13, 2011 @ 8:49 am

  4. Does anyone know if Nelson’s Boat Yard would be affected if the Lab chooses Alameda?

    Comment by Denise Shelton — July 13, 2011 @ 10:59 am

  5. Mission Bay was a very good choice. They could help position the Labium, not only in the in-fill assistance arena but promoting the site as a confluence threshold for pleasure and energy depletion/renewal.

    By the way, even though the site is near an existing sewer line and part of an overall ‘brownfield’, I’d suggest that we not dwell on these assets unless asked.

    Can’t wait for the question/answer/suggestion session this evening!

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 13, 2011 @ 11:10 am

  6. Re:infrastructure Qs=According to Russo’s 7-5-11 memo to CityCouncil [exhibit 1 to agenda item#5-C], the City of Alameda is paying Holland&Knight $144,000 to secure Federal funding for AlPo “critical infrastructure investments” using AlPo “special legislation” [amazing!]. Basically, we’re paying them to lobby the Pentagon.

    “We have a proven track record for orchestrating strategic paths forward within the Pentagon”. U heard it here last & you’re welcome

    Comment by alameda vigilante — July 13, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

  7. 6. You’d think we’d be paying them to lobby the DOE, but that’s TBD.

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 13, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

  8. The food was gone in about 10 minute….massive turnout & overwelming support…standing room only.

    Comment by Joe — July 13, 2011 @ 8:33 pm

  9. Great meeting. Everyone was very pro -Lab. No negative comments. A little grandstanding from the usual suspects: L’il Arnerich(sp?) directing his wife to roll out the red carpet (Oh yes, she did) for the LBNL folks. Classic Alameda.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — July 13, 2011 @ 10:17 pm

  10. Denise: You forgot to mention the well deserved shout-out that you and Richard Bangert received from the Mayor.

    Comment by Lauren Do — July 14, 2011 @ 6:25 am

  11. @lauren: That was a surprise. I guess I should be nicer. Nah, i’m nice enough. I’d still like to know about Nelson’s though. A guy I know who keeps his boat there in the off season is opposed to the project because he believes Nelson’s will have to close. (so much for priorities!)

    Comment by Denise Shelton — July 14, 2011 @ 9:17 am

  12. Denise: I believe that Staff has indicated that any existing businesses would be given assistance in relocating. From a map it looks like Nelsons might be right smack in the area where the Lab would go, in fact it looks like Nelson’s might be right smack where the first phase is supposed to go as well. So while Nelson’s may not be located right there anymore, it doesn’t mean that the boat yard would necessarily need to close.

    Comment by Lauren Do — July 14, 2011 @ 10:19 am

  13. 13. “…would be given assistance…”

    By whom, the new occupant or the land owner?

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 14, 2011 @ 10:24 am

  14. Denise: @ a recent City meeting (I can’t honestly recall if it was CC, or ARRA or Planning Bd; but they were discussing AlPo leases), Nelson’s Boat Works DID come up. Seems there’s some kind of financial delinquency (like haven’t pd the rent in 2 months) & the City has asked them to leave. It’s hard to evict a yard full of boats!

    Comment by alameda vigilante — July 14, 2011 @ 10:51 am

  15. Thanks for the info. Is there anything you guys don’t know? How about a hot tip on a fast horse? I could use some mad money.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — July 14, 2011 @ 11:19 am

  16. 16
    GG Fields doesn’t open until the 19th of August. And don’t bet just the horse, bet the horse/jockey 50% each (stay away from the 1/4 races).

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 14, 2011 @ 11:48 am

  17. 16


    Bet——— COWAN STEALS MIF To GOLFERS Get SHAFT ——–Exacta Box

    Bet ——– JR and JS to Slide up and down Firemans Pole Quinella

    Comment by John — July 14, 2011 @ 11:49 am

  18. J slide up and down….

    Comment by Jack Richard — July 14, 2011 @ 5:46 pm

  19. RLOL…Perfect Jack

    Comment by John — July 14, 2011 @ 7:59 pm




    Scratched :

    Water Rescue , FF OATH , MAYOR AND COUNCIL Honesty and Ethics

    FINISHING Out Of The Money :


    CLAIMED: COWAN Barn Claims BJ , FFUNION Barn Claims All City REserves, FFUNION had Big Claiming Day they Also Claimed MAYOR TAM BONTA RUSSO

    Comment by John — July 14, 2011 @ 8:55 pm

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