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June 9, 2009

The Tied House is high

Filed under: Alameda, Business — Tags: — Lauren Do @ 7:16 am

I wasn’t around when the Tied House Restaurant and Brewery was in business, so I’m not quite familiar with the history with the area around the building.  However, last night the Planning Board heard a request from the owners to approve a use permit for a banquet and catering facility for that building.  The building itself is a rather neat building — round in shape — and probably has a pretty amazing view of the Estuary because of where it is situated.

Consistent with any project in Alameda, there were a considerable number residents that were against the project as proposed, the Planning Board decided to continue the item to a future meeting because they felt as though there was not enough information to be able to make a decision on whether this use would be appropriate for the neighborhood.

A couple of the Planning Board members talked about the number of restrictions that would need to be put upon the use permit in order to lessen the impact to the neighborhood.   Board member Anne Cook mentioned that her initial thought was that the sheer number of restrictions that she believed would be needed might make the business model not viable for the owner.

While I am sympathetic to the concerns of the neighborhood, on the other hand, isn’t this really the use that historically the building has been used for?   Not only that, folks keep talking about it as a residential neighborhood, but it’s really not.   Technically, it’s zoned as Mixed Used.   The immediate neighbor to the facility is the Oakland Yacht Club (does anyone else find it weird that the Oakland Yacht Club is in Alameda?), whose members appear to be the biggest opponents of the project.

One thing that was brought up by Board Member Margaret McNamara was the idea of equity, that staff needed to find out what limitations and restrictions are in the use permits for the other facilities nearby (Oakland and Encinal Yacht Clubs).   So, I thought to myself, self, I wonder what the Oakland Yacht Club self-identifies as their hours for operations for a similar type event that would occur at the Point Marina Vista.   So I visited the website, and pulled up the catering link which redirected me to Here Comes the Guide. 

For those of you unfamiliar with Here Comes the Guide it’s a huge book with a companion website that provides brides (or grooms) with prospective locations for wedding events (ceremony, reception, rehearsal dinner, etc…)   Of course, this could be an older listing, who knows when it was last updated or if it has changed, but the hours of operation are:

Year-round, Tuesday–Sunday, 9am–midnight. Times vary depending on already scheduled member events.

And right now Point Marina Vista is asking for Friday and Saturday nights to end at 11:30 p.m.   To be fair, shouldn’t they be allowed the same operation hours at their closest neighbor?

Anyway, one of the things that bugged me about the public comment was one of the speakers who talked about how the residents of the Marina Village Towers (the only 8 story “high rise” in Alameda) were “affluent” and therefore should not be subject to the sort of environment that would come with a banquet facility.   All I could think when she was talking was, “so, this would be okay in a poor neighborhood then?”

Ooh…beware all those misfit wedding attendees and bar mitzvah revelers.

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14 Comments

  1. When we moved to Alameda in 1976, there was a very good restaurant there. The name was “The Galleon” and it had a large banquet hall for wedding receptions. The place was always packed and the food was excellent. When it sold, the new owners changed the menu and that was the end of it. We used to go there often and knew the owners well.Great views and there was never a problem with parking.

    Comment by R.Beck — June 9, 2009 @ 8:10 am

  2. I had my High School Senior Dinner at the Galleon, before it became the Tied House. It was able to accomodate over a hundred high school seniors.

    It is a great location.

    Comment by John — June 9, 2009 @ 9:10 am

  3. Has anybody considered the fact that the Oakland Yacht Club may have a financial interest in opposing the permit for the old Galleon/Tied House/[insert name of other failed business here] building? If they derive income from renting out banquet space, perhaps they’re not so eager to have a competitor right next door.

    Comment by Michael Krueger — June 9, 2009 @ 11:30 am

  4. I remember when it was a Brewpub. It was a fun place. The food was so-so, but the view! It also had a really fun after-work crowd when the office park was in full swing.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 9, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

  5. It would be cool to set up telescopes and dial-a-shot relationship with people on the deck at Quinn’s Lighthouse. We used to do that in the Virgin Islands, very fun. One time we were doing dial-a-shot with another island bar when they were robbed by pirates.

    Comment by Jack B. — June 9, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

  6. Yeah, it wasn’t bad as a Brew Pub. But it used to close way too early – 10pm, I think.

    Jack B – I doubt you could see Quinn’s from the Tied House. Though after a few strong ones you’d probably see whatever you wanted to see 🙂

    Comment by Andy Currid — June 9, 2009 @ 1:47 pm

  7. 4. Agreed, Tied House was in fact a great spot, but we stopped going because the food and service were quite so-so. All the estuary locations, even old Chevy’s, suffer from obscure access.

    One would assume the banquet scene might be noisier than standard restaurant traffic, but how much so? The competition question Michael Krueger suggested also was one of my first thoughts. It’s one thing for high rise apartment dwellers with inflated sense of entitlement to complain, but the yacht club??

    Comment by M.I. — June 9, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

  8. Having lived for a spell in that high rise, I can assure you its denizens are no more, and likely much less, pissy & entitled than most Alamedans.

    Comment by dave — June 9, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

  9. Its not about high rise dwellers in general, it’s about the alleged class distinction a speaker made about the particular rights of these people as affluent.

    Comment by M.I. — June 10, 2009 @ 1:07 pm

  10. There is not a lot of parking there so that when there is a large event, people who need to access their boats have no place to park. In addition, there has been at least one event at the former Tied House where people jumped off the railings into the water and were climbing out on the docks which are private thus causing a security issue.

    As for the yacht clubs not wanting competition, the current tax law limits how much non-member revenue they can collect. So there is no real competition there.

    Comment by C Hodgkins — June 15, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

  11. The Galleon was one of Alameda’s better dining options back in the 1960’s.

    Comment by playball94501 — July 21, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

  12. The next City Hall meeting on this is Monday, August 24.

    Comment by Paul Burnett — August 21, 2009 @ 8:16 am

  13. Hi there!

    As a resident of the nearby apartment in question, I can assure you that was speaking as an individual, not representative of the entire complex. I don’t know about all of the residents, but from the people that I do know and myself, I can assure you that not all of us are “affluent”. And the idea of thinking of this living space as a luxury high rise just cracks me up… It was built a LONG time ago, and it shows. The elevators (when they work!) move at the speed of snails, the water main breaks on a regular basis, we’ve had leaks from the roof in my BOTTOM FLOOR apartment two years in a row… But for some reason, I still love living there! (laughs)

    Personally, I’m in favor of re-opening the space, but I am concerned about the impact of parking and noise. I hope to attend the next meeting and learn more.

    Comment by VMB — August 21, 2009 @ 9:18 am

  14. Does anyone remember when The Galleon Restaurant closed? I was there in 1978 while visiting my sister-in-law. I remember playing dice-poker at the bar. Great time, great food, great place!

    Comment by Max — February 2, 2012 @ 8:10 am


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