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Images of Bayport

Don’t believe me or other posters on what Bayport looks like, well then, believe your own eyes.

This is the Main Street side of Bayport from Atlantic to Midway, imagine you are walking on the Bay Trail toward the Ferry or Rosenblum Cellars,  if that helps.  The chainlink fencing you can see on the Bayport side is temporary while that portion of the development is under construction.

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Also, regarding access in and out of Bayport, there is indeed a sound wall that was built for Bayport, but only the section that borders Atlantic.   I have modified this map of Bayport, red stars indicate pedestrian access points in and out of Bayport.

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Additionally, orange highlighted areas are all on-street parking.  There is plenty of parking around the park and school for folks who want to go to the park in Bayport but do not live in Bayport.  Green indicates private mini parks.  These are private in the sense that it is privately maintained.  Just as the majority of streets in Bayport are private.  Privately maintained.  Meaning none of our tax dollars are used to maintain the majority of our own streets.  Additionally, NIMBY has indicated that the structure of Bayport is like a “superblock” warned about by Jane Jacobs, urban planning goddess.  However, wikipedia defines a superblock as:

A superblock is much larger than a traditional city block and is typically bounded by widely spaced, high-speed, arterial or circulating routes rather than by local streets…In a residential area of a suburb, the interior of the superblock is typically served by cul-de-sac roads.

Hmm…interiors served by cul-de-sac roads, now where is there an example of that in Alameda?

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6 Comments »

  1. Hey come on your just trying to get nimby all wound up again. She will look at these pictures and come up with some new argument to justify why she thinks Pat Bail is the most wonderful, kind and thoughtful person who ever lived. Thank goodness you guys aren’t talking about the Iraq war, which I’m sure her good friend Pat Bail thinks is a very worthy cause. I just thought that I would throw that in since these arguments have gotten so far off track. I have noticed lately that nimby seems to like to argue just about anything that some of you say just to show you that she can take the other side and make a credible argument wether it means anything or not. Since I have to go to work every day I don’t get enough time to give my opinions as much as I would like. So to Jamal you have these people figured right, I agree with you they are what you think they are, they just think that they can hide it through the use of their well thought out words, but that is somthing that you just can’t keep hidden ,especially the more you speak. Finally Barbar Khan I hope that us old folks do learn to use this internet far better in the next two years it is really powerful. John Piziali

    Comment by John Piziali — October 27, 2006 @ 8:37 pm

  2. Good one John :-)

    The Gold Coast has its share of cul-de-sacs as well …

    Comment by Alameda — October 28, 2006 @ 11:17 am

  3. I don’t know the whole history of the gold coast houses, but what a real estate agent told us…. Supposedly the gold coast houses were actually on the coast line at one time and some prominent Alameda families owned the land in the bay in the 60’s – 70’s. They filled in the marsh land and built all the houses on the other side including the shopping center. This made the canals and made many bitter residence in Alameda which seems to continues today. The cul-de-sacs in the Gold Coast was not planed but actually at one time the streets dead ended on the coast-line.

    They were not intentionallu cul-de sacs but ended up that way after the canals. Although the bitterness is intentional the distane on anyone new is not at all exceptable, but they seem to blame any new development as such. This was told to me by a real estate agent so don’t hammer me if some of the facts are wrong.

    Comment by Joe — October 28, 2006 @ 4:39 pm

  4. Hi everyone, I stumbled upon this site while researching Bayport. You all seem to be very knowledgeable regarding Alameda. We are considering buying a house in that community, but we are new to the Bay Area, so trying to find out as much pros and cons about that area in general. If anyone can help me out with any info, that would be great. Looking for feedback regarding home price of mid-800k’s in that area (worth it? good investment?), How good are schools in that area, what is the demographic of neighbors, Crimes in that area? Traffic getting out of Alameda onto 880? What is going on with the plan to develop the surrounding areas and the waterfront, etc.- Is that still in the works, or has that been thrown out already?
    Thanks everyone! :-)

    Comment by Susan — June 6, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

  5. #3: Wow-no offense, Joe [you probably aren’t around anymore, but from Susan’s post, what you wrote is still being read] but just about everything that realtor told you about the Gold Coast is WRONG [except for the part about the cul-de-sacs not being planned]. First they’re not canals, but Lagoons. “Prominent Alameda families” did not fill in the marsh land, we were opposed to it! Doric Development put the South Shore bay fill project on the local ballot, just like SunCal did with Measure B, & people who didn’t live nearby & wouldn’t suffer voted it in. People owning homes at the South end of Gold Coast streets found their basements flooded & their property values destroyed. Some local realtors cleaned up by buying up these former bayfront lands at bargain prices & later subdividing the lots & building luxury homes on them. Perhaps the real estate agent who told you that fairytale is from one of the culprit firms which is still apparently trying to rewrite Alameda history. It is the developers & some[not all] greedy realtors who have generated Nimbyism here, as a reaction from residents who just wanted to preserve the value of their largest investment, their homes.

    Comment by vigi — August 13, 2012 @ 10:03 am

  6. Vigi, I didn’t think Doric was responsible for South Shore it was Utah Construction that filled it in. They also filled the property where Encinal High is today.

    Comment by John. P (L) — August 13, 2012 @ 9:43 pm


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