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June 7, 2013

Cottage Food industry

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Point, Public Resources — Tags: , — Lauren Do @ 6:07 am

Last year the state legislature signed into law the California Homemade Food Act which essentially allows people to make food stuffs in their home kitchens and legally sell them.   This is also known as “Cottage Food Operations”.    Before you freak out about salmonella or anything like that there are limitations on the types of foods you can make it your home, such as:

  • Baked goods without cream, custard, or meat fillings,such as breads, biscuits, churros, cookies, pastries, and tortillas
  • Candy, such as brittle and toffee
  • Chocolate-covered nonperishable foods, such as nuts and dried fruit
  • Dried fruit
  • Dried pasta
  • Dry baking mixes
  • Fruit pies,fruit empanadas, and fruit tamales
  • Granola, cereals, and trail mixes
  • Herb blends and dried mole paste
  • Honey and sweet sorghum syrup
  • Jams, jellies, preserves, and fruit butter that comply with the standard described in Part 150 of Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
  • Nut mixes and nut butters
  • Popcorn
  • Vinegar and mustard
  • Roasted coffee and dried tea
  • Waffle cones and pizzelles

Part of the law, which went into effect earlier this year, asked that local jurisdictions decide how they want to monitor these businesses.   So on Monday the Planning Board will be voting on whether to adopt Alameda’s Cottage Food Operation ordinance which would allow for folks to operate these businesses out of their homes and allow for one other employee not part of the household to assist during business hours.

There, of course, will be some reason that someone out there doesn’t like the idea of Joan McJoanerson making jam out of her home kitchen and selling it to people who want to buy homemade jam out of Joan’s kitchen.   But I guess the bottom line is that if these Cottage Food operators abide by all the labeling requirements that tell you that it’s not made in a commercial grade kitchen you don’t have to buy Joan’s jam.

Also, fyi, the Alameda Point Collaborative also runs a commercial kitchen that you can rent if your Cottage Food Operation expands so that you no longer can work out of your kitchen (aka you need to hire more than one extra employee).   In case you were wondering what they have out there:

Our fully equipped certified commercial kitchen is available for monthly rental. Renters are provided 24/7 access. Rental equipment includes: double oven Wolf range, two convection ovens, 20 quart commercial mixer, walk-in cooler, walk-in freezer, stainless steel food prep and dish washing sinks.

And prices:

Rental packages start at $25/hr for minimum 10 hours per month. All rentals require a $500 refundable security deposit.
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67 Comments

  1. Thanks for sharing this. Very good information and the list seems well-reasoned and based on science. You can’t argue with science–unless you’re Fox News and luckily, they don’t get to vote on this one.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — June 7, 2013 @ 6:53 am

  2. You call bureaucratization ‘science’? One complaint and you have the gum-shoes breaking down your door.

    “15.How often will a CFO be inspected?”

    “ClassA or B” (complaint inspections)- The local environmental health
    agency may access,for inspection purposes,the registered or permitted area
    where a cottage food operation is located if the representative has, on the
    basis of a consumer complaint,reason to suspect that adulterated or
    otherwise unsafe food has been produced by the cottage food operation or
    that the cottage food operation has violated California food safety laws.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 7, 2013 @ 9:44 am

  3. No. The science I refer to is what was considered when coming up with the list of foods allowed to be produced for sale this way. And yeah, if Joan McJoanerson’s jam has cat hair in it, I’d like to be able to complain to somebody for giving her a permit. Nobody’s asking her to sell the stuff, but if she’s going to, she should be accountable for what’s in it. Considering the low volume these operations would generate, I doubt the inspection police will get called in very often. If Joan wants to give it away, and I accept a jar that is “unsafe”, that’s my problem.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — June 7, 2013 @ 11:53 am

  4. Why on earth does the Alameda Point Collaborative have a commercial kitchen? Talk about a waste of taxpayer dollars. If the goal is to train disadvantaged people to work in a given industry, it seems that a corporate partnership would be much more efficient and effective. I know for a fact that many McDonalds and other fast food chains have a very hard time finding entry level kitchen workers.

    Rather than sucking the taxpayer teat dry and frolicking around in a fancy play kitchen, APC people could actually try finding a real job and get on-the-job training from a company that needs workers. That would be a win-win for everybody. Instead, we’re in a lose-lose situation where funding goes to APC and the money is wasted on dreamy job training programs for skills that have no demand in the real world.

    I would propose that we end funding to the Alameda Point Collaborative and instead divert the money to a job training program that matches homeless/unemployed people with companies that are in need of low end workers and are willing to provide job training. Disadvantaged people would receive useful job training and the guarantee of a job upon completion, and tax credits could be given to the companies for each worker training and hired. This program would be many times more effective than the tax dollar black hole that is the APC.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 12:17 pm

  5. Commercial Kitchen? That’s a good question. I thumbed through the Collaborative OJT offerings and didn’t see anything related to food preparation. Maybe Doug could give us some info.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 7, 2013 @ 12:27 pm

  6. APC’s commercial kitchen falls under their “Social Enterprises” section which essentially is designed to help with job training and employment opportunities but also to provide an additional revenue source for APC.

    The commercial kitchen is used by APC residents to process foods for their farm2market program.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 7, 2013 @ 12:57 pm

  7. Hi Jack, I would be delighted to give you some additional information. The kitchen was built several years ago. Funds to cover the cost of the kitchen came primarily from foundation grants, with some federal funds from the USDA and CDBG. APC was in need of a kitchen from day one for a weekly breakfast program we ran. Until the kitchen was in place we used camp stoves. When we embarked on the planning of a kitchen we decided to go for a commercial kitchen so that we would not be limited in the types of uses we could have, particularly around job training, and the establishment of value added business that could be run by residents.

    The kitchen is used for nutrition classes, prepping produce from the farm, and preparing meals for community events. In addition to nutrition, the kitchen serves as a venue for training residents in food safety, resulting in getting a food safety certification from the County Health Department, which is useful in going out and getting a real job.

    We have begun to rent the kitchen out to commercial users in order to generate funds to offset the upkeep cost of the facility, and be able to continue to provide services. We are very proud of the commercial users that have contracted with us as several have gone on to larger success, and they all provide inspiration for residents to show that they can succeed in business.

    On the downside, shortly after completing the kitchen a lot of traditional sources of funding dried up, so we have not been able to move forward on our value added business development, but we are still seeking sources and hope to expand on that in the future.

    While I am popping in, I also wanted to comment on the frequent verbal attacks on APC and APC residents that have been launched over the last few months by jsanders both here and in other venues. The personalization and repetition of those attacks goes well beyond a rational and civil discourse and in that type of situation, there is no value in engaging. I feel sorry for jsanders – his hatred of all things APC, Alameda Housing and poor people is clearly personal. One of his recurring themes though I will comment on. He seems to feel that the residents we work with aren’t entitled to live in a community like Alameda. A majority of our residents are adult and children survivors of domestic violence, and an increasing number of disabled veterans. Given the trauma that has been inflicted on these residents, and the sacrifices they have made, I think they should be able to live in the nicest environment possible. Thank you and have a wonderful weekend!

    Comment by Doug Biggs — June 7, 2013 @ 1:36 pm

  8. JSanders is right, and I trust him as alameda’s #1 guy who just makes stuff up, seriously: why does some organization that jsanders has a total hard-on for do things he doesn’t even need to try and understand, it absolutely must be an outrage! it is so maddening that it makes you want to choke someone, grrrrrr! I mean poor people! in alameda! disgusting. and also, taxes! so there’s that, too.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 7, 2013 @ 1:40 pm

  9. The Alameda Point Collaborative has a noble mission and serves a valuable purpose. However, it can achieve it’s goals at far lower cost and with greater effectiveness outside of Alameda.

    Alameda has high housing and land prices and a valuable commute location. Many hardworking middle class families cannot afford to live in Alameda and instead must live far outside the Bay Area, and spend hours each day commuting. The people that APC serves, by their very nature, are unemployed and do not need to live in such an expensive part of the Bay Area. APC occupies 34 acres of prime real estate and more than 200 units of housing that can be better utilized by market forces and made equally and fairly available to all, not just those who are justify some special social condition. Those who are so disadvantaged and can housed and helped in a place with lower land, housing, and living expenses, such as other parts of California, Nevada, etc.

    Social programs such as the Alameda Point Collaborative are inherently unfair and damage the essence of the American dream by penalizing those who work hard and pay taxes and by rewarding those who do not. These programs weaken America by penalizing hard work and conscientiousness, are a drain on the budget, and damage our country’s ability to compete in the global economy.

    Those on this forum might not, but a recently conducted survey finds that the majority of Americans agree with me:

    http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/06/18802216-many-americans-blame-government-welfare-for-persistent-poverty-poll-finds?lite

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 2:56 pm

  10. Homelessness does not equal joblessness. It simply means homelessness.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 7, 2013 @ 3:05 pm

  11. Plenty of people move out of Manhattan every year because they cannot afford to live there with their income. They find new jobs and move away. It’s not an entirely unreasonable thing to do – millions of middle class Americans do the same thing every year. We don’t need to tamper with the market and waste millions of dollars in trying all this social engineering. Communist China, Russia, etc have tried it before and failed.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 3:09 pm

  12. I think this part of Doug Biggs’ response should be highlighted:

    A majority of our residents are adult and children survivors of domestic violence, and an increasing number of disabled veterans. Given the trauma that has been inflicted on these residents, and the sacrifices they have made, I think they should be able to live in the nicest environment possible.

    I believe it’s everyone’s responsibility to care for those that have served us in the military and the most vulnerable in our communities. The expression that comes to mind is, there, but for the grace of God, go I.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 7, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

  13. Low income workforce are moving out of Bay Area unless they already have Vouchers and Section 8. That is one of the reasons Schools are losing students in Oakland and those that attend School in Oakland 70% Live in Poverty.

    Oakland opens waiting list for Section 8 vouchers

    Oakland’s housing authority opened up its waiting list Tuesday for Section 8 housing vouchers, drawing thousands for a coveted spot in line.

    The only way to sign up was over a computer, so across the city, hundreds jammed into city libraries to fill out the forms in the hope that they might eventually get a chance to live in subsidized housing.

    In the first three hours, 6,000 people filled out applications. Over the five-day application period, the housing authority expects 100,000 people to apply for only 10,000 spots on the waiting list.

    Vouchers, for the most part, only become available when people living on assistance obtain higher-paying jobs or die.

    Even now, only 650 vouchers are available, said Eric Johnson, the housing authority’s executive director. Typically, about 50 vouchers get freed up every month.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-opens-waiting-list-for-Section-8-vouchers-2478260.php#ixzz2VZao7mpA

    April 2013 – Affordable and Low-Income Housing Wait List Opportunities

    San Francisco and Bay Area

    Approx. wait time for housing is 2-4 years

    http://www.selfhelpelderly.org/services/social_services/housing_list.pdf

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

  14. Lauren The VA has a Great program for helping Vets in housing…. I have a Friend who uses their program anytime he has vacancy.

    In most cases they are best tenants.

    They lose housing privileges if the Screw up.

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 4:08 pm

  15. “A majority of our residents are adult and children survivors of domestic violence, and an increasing number of disabled veterans. Given the trauma that has been inflicted on these residents, and the sacrifices they have made, I think they should be able to live in the nicest environment possible.”

    Yes, we do need to help such people. But we can do so more efficiency and more effectively in areas with lower housing costs and lower living expenses.

    13: Programs like Section 8, APC, etc make people reliant on government, put increased pressure on small businesses and the middle class, and ultimately hurt America and it’s ability to compete in the increasingly global economy.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 4:08 pm

  16. 57% of Students going to School is California live in Poverty JSanders.

    70% in Oakland

    60% in San Francisco

    This is California the Booming Economy the President speaks about.

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 4:13 pm

  17. Shorter jsanders: make people who have been abused leave the state so wealthy people can live in alameda.

    But what would you know about domestic violence?

    Appreciate the consistency on misrepresenting facts. Look at the poll again. Only 24% said “too much welfare.” Only in jsanders-land is 24% a majority. and “welfare” and what APC are too different things as well, so you can’t even say that 24% of people agree with the jsanders ship poor people off the island plan.

    At least your relationship with facts continues to be consistent.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 7, 2013 @ 4:17 pm

  18. Most pf the new 300 jobs at the New Target will be Part Time paying 10 -12 hour working 20 hours a week and we will subsidize Target in Tax Credits 37 K for hiring them.

    Interesting Times.

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 4:22 pm

  19. Here’s an idea that jsanders can get behind!

    lets ship all of our poor people to Canada, in a swap for hard working canadian job-creators.

    I can only imagine that those canadians will have a better grasp of what makes America a great place, what it’s ills are, and an appreciation for how poor people suck and should just leave for goodness sake. And the canadians will get right to work creating things of great public worth that will benefit everyone else, not just sit around with nothing to do, putting negative vibes into the community.

    I mean, we really shouldn’t have to ask poor people to get out, should we. They just need to do what’s right and leave.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 7, 2013 @ 4:24 pm

  20. Jonathan Swift had a unique solution to poverty in Ireland in 1729. The Age of Enlightenment lighting the way:

    http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 7, 2013 @ 5:52 pm

  21. 20: Jack, be be careful, you might incur the wrath of “Facts? We dun need no stinkin’ facts”. But I doubt he would have the intellect, much less the patience, to read such classic literature.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 6:17 pm

  22. I think Fact may be planting satirical pasquinades in order to make their side look foolish.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 7, 2013 @ 7:03 pm

  23. 7 Doug, your commitment to the unfortunate speaks for itself, I think you did yourself no gain by your last popping in paragraph.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 7, 2013 @ 7:28 pm

  24. Jack Richard would never claim that 24% is a majority and then say someone else is lacking in intellect.

    One can only imagine what jsanders got from his reading of Swift.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 7, 2013 @ 7:52 pm

  25. Alameda Point Collaborative serves a noble mission of helping the poor, disadvantaged, abused, etc and I’m sure that its director, Doug Biggs, is a good man. These are not at all the issues that I am trying to debate.

    The issue at hand is how to best utilize the limited resources of our state and our country for the good of all Americans, both young and old, for today and for tomorrow. By its very nature, government sometimes tends to utilize its resources inefficiently. One only needs to look at the billions of dollars of wasteful pork barrel spending each year to see that. In contrast, the free market by its very nature is motivated to use resources efficiently.

    The problem with the Alameda Point Collaborative is that it is using some of the most valuable land in our country for a purpose for which the land is not suited. Alameda is an expensive city, with limited space, located in the center of the Bay Area with easy commutes to many job centers. It is an ideal place for a middle class family to live and has been for decades. We’ve seen though, that home prices are rising in Alameda and many families are being priced out. These families are then forced to move to places much farther away in search of good homes, yards, good schools. Parents must then commute hours each day, and have less time to spend with their children.

    Social engineering programs such as the APC do our country a disservice by interfering with the free market. Given the cost and convenient location to jobs of land in Alameda, it makes no sense to house homeless people here. Doing so would be analogous to building a golf course in Manhattan – it would be an inefficient use of the land.

    I am all for helping the homeless, disadvantaged, abused, disabled, etc. After all, they are Americans as well and it is our duty to help them no matter what their faults might be. However, our society has limited resources and our country is facing tremendous economic pressure. Every dollar we spend on one program means a dollar less spent somewhere else. Therefore, we should try to make our social programs as efficient as possible, and bringing 500 homeless families to live in one of the most expensive cities in the country is simply not efficient, when there are perhaps thousands of middle class families that would like to live in Alameda for its easy commute and good schools but cannot afford to.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 8:16 pm

  26. Why are homeless families more deserving of living in Alameda than middle class families? If there was a middle class family that could not afford to live in Alameda due to the high housing prices, should they be provided with free housing as well?

    Why should we not make land in Alameda open to market rate forces, so that people can decide for themselves where they should live?

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 8:24 pm

  27. Jack you have pretty good nose for plants.

    Something Not passing smell test.

    JSanders 128 posted in Philipine Bar Chats and Muscle Magazine…..Facts plantificiatius.

    Lauren Knows the IPs and knows whats up.

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 8:42 pm

  28. To me it looks like both are plants trying to Frame People who don’t like High City Employee Compensations and Hating Poor People.

    BWTDFIK

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 8:57 pm

  29. Its Progressively Correct to do this Jack…….It’s in the Handbook.

    Frame em up and Drop the Wrecking Ball.

    Comment by How long is the Line to Get in Line — June 7, 2013 @ 9:02 pm

  30. I find it amusing how people who oppose my viewpoint can only resort to personal attacks instead of posting counter arguments of their own.

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 7, 2013 @ 10:56 pm

  31. Jsanders and “Facts” and two different IP addresses. If you are suggesting that Facts is a sock puppet for Jsander or vice versa you are incorrect. There really is only one person who has consistently changed his handle and that’s the person that is consistently accusing other people of using multiple handles.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 8, 2013 @ 6:10 am

  32. if you say his name does it sound like mine???? just a question.

    Comment by John P.(L) — June 8, 2013 @ 7:33 am

  33. Why argue with jsanders, a guy who thinks24% is a majority, that firefighters earn $200K a year, that public safety makes up 70% of the budget. That’s not a viewpoint, it’s a war on facts.

    remember when he said that Doug Biggs was just in it for the money? http://laurendo.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/bring-it-on-home/#comment-109273

    now he says Doug is a great and noble person.

    Looks like jsanders has opened up a whole new front in the war on honesty and integrity.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 8, 2013 @ 8:23 am

  34. remember when all Jsanders could say about APC is that they were just a bunch of criminals and hoodlums? http://alameda.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-search-for-missing-man-last-seen-in-alameda

    That was awesome.

    And then when cops caught two gun totin’ theives, it was because of APC (without any proof…a theme!):http://alameda.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/bike-cop-arrests-theft-suspect-from-alameda-recovers-handgun

    That was awesome.

    Comment by Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts — June 8, 2013 @ 8:42 am

  35. 21. so you know Swift was being satirical. I would’ve expected you to endorse his proposal …..with a little Chianti and fava beans.

    “Every dollar we spend on one program means a dollar less spent somewhere else.” You seem to have almost no imagination when it comes to how helping lower incomes people helps the rest of us. It’s like investing in education helping reduce prison populations. Is that such a stretch?

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 9:39 am

  36. 26. “Why are homeless families more deserving of living in Alameda than middle class families?” why should they be less deserving? we are all people. your arguments about the free market are from some dream where there rich don’t get richer and the free market achieves only good. The don’t call it crony capitalism for nothing.

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 9:43 am

  37. 36. So you are indeed saying that all people deserve to live the same, regardless of income? You must be really frustrated at Bayport then, with it’s rich families in big homes and poor families crammed into small apartments…

    There seem to be many people in Alameda who share your viewpoint…and your side is very loud:

    http://www.alamedareport.org/local/harborisle.html

    You seem to imagine some fantasy world where everybody is equal and lives equally comfortably, lives in the same types of homes, drive the same types of cars, wears the same clothes. In doing so, you remove any incentive for our youth to work hard, take risks, become successful. After all, they’ll just all end up the same anyway right? If you work hard and become successful, the government will just tax you more so that it can pay for your lazier and less successful peers can live the same life as you.

    I really shudder at the future of our country…

    Comment by jsanders128 — June 8, 2013 @ 10:03 am

  38. 31
    “There really is only one person who has consistently changed his handle and that’s the person that is consistently accusing other people of using multiple handles.”

    That’s exactly how a plant operates. Sets up multiple straw-dogs then complains about the bundles of straw.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 8, 2013 @ 10:09 am

  39. 35
    Many people don’t realize that during the early part of the seventeenth century, say 1620 until 1650 but primarily the 1630′s, when England was having multiple internal problems including overpopulation, there were emigration outlets. The early development of several English colonies along the Virginia coastline (ill conceived, ill led and ill with sickness) and West Indies island colonies were but two outlets.

    By far the largest outlet was Ireland. In fact during the 1630′s, Ireland had six times as many immigrants from England as did the new world.

    By Swift’s time, almost a century later, England had consuming authority over everything Irish. Dublin born Swift, of course didn’t appreciate the English dominance or Irish acquiescence. Thus, Swift’s biting satire’s modest proposal was aimed at both.

    I ran across this while reading Bernard Bailyn’s, “The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution”. Bailyn analyses early American (pre-revolution)
    Pamphleteering, many of which are grossly satirical, and compares American with English satirists of the same period. Of course, no one in America at that time, can hold a candle to English writers.

    Pamphlets (as well as letters to the editor of newspapers) were roughly the blogs of those times.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 8, 2013 @ 10:54 am

  40. “jsanders” we are born equal, not my fantasy. mortality is the great leveler which renders us equal again at the end no matter what riches we collect along the way. Since old age and some sort of physical failure are what we share in common it seems sort of futile to pretend in the interim that some of us are better than others. You seem to have some phobia about having other people take away the wealth you do manage to accumulate ( borrow) while you are alive. That must be kind of tough row to hoe, always on the defensive.

    Please, don’t put words in my mouth based on your weird paranoid view of the world. “I ” don’t remove incentives by doing anything. I just think it’s nice to share a little. Think about what you suggest, i.e. low income people should move off the island and work at McDonald’s until they have somehow miraculously parlayed enough wealth to afford to move back here. while swimming up stream against the current of bigoted people who begrudge them the perfectly logical and efficient route of receiving instruction through a nonprofit like APC.

    Simply put, my general philosophy is that since we are all stuck in this life together we might do well to help each other rather than be selfish assholes. I shudder at the incredible hubris of the power elites in the world to fuck the rest of the world over so they can spend their time in the lap of luxury as if they will live forever. I also shudder at dupes like you who buy into the idea that you can be like them.

    I’ve recently been making plans to work with young kids to help build their reading skills. I deem myself a good candidate because I cut myself short many times in my life because my reading speed was slow and I avoided the strains academia because I assumed I couldn’t do it. In retrospect I can see the options I precluded, in part because I lacked good role models. I’m motivated to do this volunteer work by a sense of compassion for a kid that might be just like I was and it would give me great satisfaction to help a young person make better choices and increase their options so they don’t end up working at Mc Donald’s. Doing so might also help the rest of us by steering somebody away from bad options which could lead down hill and over time cost the society lots of money, like your precious tax dollars. I started doing labor in the early 1970s and progressed to contractor but that path is not likely for my own white middle class son unless I hire him because the construction economy is now dominated by very talented central American workers who will work for very “reasonable” wages. As we are all being told college grads have low rates of employment.

    Your posing as “shuddering”and your lining up sides and attributing how loud your supposed opposition is is just more social engineering, i.e. fear mongering to goad people into panic so they will be ready to beat away the rabid hordes. Booh! they’re coming to get ya!

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

  41. 39. good one. You know my motto, “Eat the Rich!” I guess that doesn’t include jsanders since he is only a jealous aspirant, but I’d also be hesitant because there may be signs Mad Cow Disease.

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

  42. If you took the total Wealth of the top 500 Richest people in United states and Divided it up it would equal less than 4800.00 for Each Person living here.

    They also provide tens of millions of Jobs for people living here and if you distributed their wealth the Financial Markets would be worth a fraction of their present self and all those that look for any type of pension would probably get pennies on the dollar.

    If any of them ran their finances and business like a government agency they would all be broke.

    The businesses they run pay for millions of City, County, State and federal Employees and Programs including our schools. Plus they are Huge contributors to Charity and Education and many would collapse without their support.

    Eat em hate em……. Lets chop it all up and see what happens.

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 2:36 pm

  43. Two Richest……I know all things are equal…….

    Bill Gates, the world’s most generous person, says that as long as he helps eradicate deadly diseases like polio and malaria, he doesn’t care if he’s forgotten after his death. Not that there’s any chance of that: Gates has already given more than $28 billion, but said in his fifth annual letter for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation that the total amount invested is less important than precise measures of impact, like child mortality rates. Gates has been spreading his gospel to other billionaires near and far: he and good friend Warren Buffett recently added 12 non-Americans to their Giving Pledge, including the U.K.’s Richard Branson and India’s Azim Premji, bumping the total to 105 high net worth individuals. He also partnered with Carlos Slim to build a new $25 million agricultural research center in Mexico. Gates’ net worth increased $6 billion to $67 billion in the past year – with no help from the company he cofounded, Microsoft, in which he still has a 5% stock. Most of his fortune these days is spread across private equity, bonds, and stocks like hygiene tech firm Ecolab, Mexican TV broadcaster Televisa, and Latin America’s largest beverage company FEMSA. In February, Gates said the only thing left on his bucket list was, “Don’t die.”

    Warren Buffett struck again in February, announcing a deal with Brazilian billionaire Jorge Paulo Lemann’s 3G Capital to snap up iconic ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. for $23.2 billion. It wasn’t the only deal for Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway lately. In November 2012 Berkshire acquired Omaha-based party supplier Oriental Trading Co. and in December 2012 the company purchased $1.2 billion of its own stock from “the estate of a longtime shareholder.” Buffett completed radiation treatment for prostate cancer last summer, five months after he notified Berkshire Hathaway shareholders of his condition, assuring them that it was “not remotely life-threatening.” Still, he has gotten his house in order: In December 2011 he chose his farmer son, Howard, as the future non-executive chairman and “guardian of the firm’s values.” In February 2012 he said he’d picked his CEO replacement but has declined to give a name. Buffett has also been busy expanding his philanthropy. He gave $1.5 billion to the Gates Foundation in July 2012, bringing his lifetime giving to nearly $17.3 billion. On his birthday in August 2012 Buffett pledged $3 billion of stock to his children’s foundations. After studying under Benjamin Graham at Columbia Business School, Buffett offered to work for his former professor’s investment partnership, Graham-Newman Corporation, for free. According to Buffett, “he turned me down as overvalued.” It was only after several years of “pestering” that the father of value investing agreed to take on the younger man in 1954. When Graham retired two years later, Buffett returned to Nebraska to launch his own partnership. In 1962 Buffett began buying up shares of a struggling textile company called Berkshire Hathaway. Though Buffett has called Berkshire “the dumbest stock” he ever bought, the firm has long since shed its textile assets and today serves as Buffett’s famed investment vehicle.

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 2:47 pm

  44. 40. You seem to be doing quite a lot of ‘shuddering’ lately, MI. Could it be because your son’s ‘path’ that you had cleared so nicely for him has come to be crowded out by those pesky others who don’t buy into your enlightened ‘share the wealth’ ideas?

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 8, 2013 @ 2:48 pm

  45. 42. right, all capitalists are good by definition and we should all be servile and grateful to the 1% for all the jobs they provide. Couple thoughts, Apple in Ireland contributes how many millions? and the jobs they create at Foxconn. I’d jump off a roof for one of those gigs.

    Great that Gates has been working on developing a social conscience with help from Melinda and Buffet. He really deserves a pat on the head for being such a nice guy. He can shed millions like dandruff and it wouldn’t effect his life style so I don’t expect any less from him, but that hardly makes up for all the guys like Jeff Skilling or the unindicted guys from Wall Street who looted the economy with home loan scam.

    Poor Bill still suffers from egotism. I didn’t take his remarks as scathing personal attack on Dambisa Moyo, but they were certainly arrogant.

    http://www.humanosphere.org/2013/05/dambisa-moyo-counter-attacks-bill-gates-critique-of-her-work-as-evil/

    I guess there is aid and aid. Maybe Moyo and Gates are at crossed purposes. Gates is also being naive and simplistic i addressing the subject. Donating money to end Malaria is a great thing, but ” aid” has a long and sordid history. The author of this book has a dubious credentials but it’s an interesting read.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 3:43 pm

  46. 44. whatever…. in relative terms my son has to worry about. BTW, I was not complaining, just making an observation about the changing economic landscape with regard to fact that if I were to start over the path I took would be closed off to me. sometimes you try too hard.

    Comment by MI — June 8, 2013 @ 3:46 pm

  47. So NO Gratitude for anyone Successful in Business……. …..Everyone that just happens to be successful chop it up with those not willing to compete and sit back and complain …..I’m starting to Get It.

    What if everyone took your attitude regarding business and your Son.

    “I started doing labor in the early 1970s and progressed to contractor but that path is not likely for my own white middle class son unless I hire him because the construction economy is now dominated by very talented central American workers who will work for very “reasonable” wages. As we are all being told college grads have low rates of employment.”

    Or a High Rate of Unemployment

    You Don’t want to compete and don’t think he should also in the Contractors world?

    All Fields are Global Now…….Get used to it…… The PC Central Americans that work for Reasonable wages will come running to fill your Son’s Tin Cup in the Share The Wealth Game. Have him wait by the Curb.

    There are 250,000,000 world wide that need jobs and unemployed…..Most I know that come from all parts of the world are so Grateful and Thankful just to be here and have a opportunity just to be able to compete and have a chance at making a better life for their family .

    Instead of reading all the Crap …You might start reading about Gratitude. Your life will improve 10000%.

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 4:16 pm

  48. 46
    “…if I were to start over the path I took would be closed off to me.”

    So, it’s all about the nail.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 8, 2013 @ 4:23 pm

  49. I was down at Google last week checking out the campus and talking to many people while my Brother In Law’s Production Company was Filming Interviews for the new Movie Internship. It’s demographics of employees look like the United Nations.

    There is so much excitement and passion in the air …….It’s an amazing experience.

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 4:29 pm

  50. Hillarious Jack!

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 4:33 pm

  51. MI while you teach them to read the Four Year Olds will Podcast and You Tube what you don’t know how to do. I think there was a airplane that flew over Teachers conference.

    This was Four Years ago

    DISPATCHES from the NEW WORLD of WORK

    BETT 2009

    And the Four-year-olds Shall Lead Us …

    Red-eyeing it from Boston to London last night, I read in the Guardian about today’s opening of BETT 2009 [British Education and Training Technology], advertised as the biggest and best show of its kind in the world—the collection of global education ministers expected to attend gives cause to take the claim seriously.

    What’s up?

    In a word, everything.

    The article led off with this little vignette about 4-year old Multimedia Masters of the Universe, part of a Global Surge re-inventing education. Or should I say, better yet by far, re-inventing LEARNING & LIVING:

    “In Blackburn, four-year-olds are making podcasts. In Suffolk, the sometimes tedious and impractical ritual of morning Assembly has been replaced in one school by a news video compiled by pupils; posting it on YouTube means parents can watch as well—and they do. … Learners at all stages and ages, from all over the world, are downloading free tutorials while they replenish their iPods, courtesy of iTunes U. …”

    Among many other things, the key ideas are hyper-creative group collaboration on the one hand—and, on the other, completely customized, “user driven” learning, starting by, uh, age 4. (Or less?)

    Other examples are more “ordinary” (by the standards of the distant past, say 2007 or 2008). Consider:

    “MirandaNet is pioneering the concept of ‘braided learning’—digital exchanges using instant messaging and social networking where members contribute their comments, judgments and evidence to create shared insights to influence current professional thinking. … Braided learning allows professionals to create their own knowledge that can be used locally, regionally and nationally; they become activist professionals.”

    Again group-crowd sourcing-learning and production and 100% customized knowledge are the keystones.

    Naturally, some education systems are way ahead (parts of the UK are at the front of the front of the line), and others trail miserably, even if their scores on national technological sophistication are high. Our British friends see the chance for global leadership in an enormous industry ticketed for fast growth over the next 10–20 years.

    As I prepare for a seminar tomorrow to a company involved in and dependent upon information collection, analysis, and dissemination, I find that the kids, wee kids in part, from Blackburn and Suffolk are my principal source of inspiration. Dear God, do they have a lot to teach us!
    Right now!

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 7:47 pm

  52. http://www.tompeters.com/dispatches/010819.php

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 7:49 pm

  53. Were probably almost to the Point for alot of Teachers we need to start paying Students to Teach Teachers new Technology and what is Going on in the world…..Real Flipping of Classroom.

    Interesting Times

    Comment by Eat the Rich! — June 8, 2013 @ 7:57 pm

  54. What is funny here is we played a game in first grade where you wisper something into someones ear and they wisper it to the next person and by the time it goes around it has nothing to do with the thing first wispered. This started out with people selling there own food and ended up with people eating teachers and the rich? Some things never change. What happened to the point of the story?

    Comment by joelsf — June 8, 2013 @ 9:44 pm

  55. “How long is the Line to Get in Line” was satire on how many are waiting for low income housing

    “Eat the Rich” was MI Motto…..Was satire to show what value the wealthy are in society.

    “interesting way to Look at Where The Money is Going” Was Satire on comments on where the School Budget is going

    ” What is there to hide” Was Satire on Comments on City Manager not turning over Total Compensation spreadsheet for all city employees.

    ” Four Flush This ” Was Satire Response to Shut the F up Dave.

    “Have another Cup” Was Satire Response to STFU Dave

    Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.

    A common feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm—”in satire, irony is militant”[2]—but parody, burlesque, exaggeration,[3] juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing.

    This “militant” irony or sarcasm often professes to approve of (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist wishes to attack.
    Satire is nowadays found in many artistic forms of expression, including literature, plays, commentary, and media such as lyrics

    Comment by Pass the Smart pills — June 8, 2013 @ 10:55 pm

  56. I have an analogy for jsanders. Wife and I know how to swim and had the means and where with all to insure our kids can swim, including gaining access to pools and even lessons. So a low income person whose parents couldn’t swim nor had access to community pools like in Alameda hasn’t learned to swim but finds themself in a fast moving current. jsanders begrudges throwing this person a life vest collectively paid for with taxes. In fact he argues it’s sink or swim. We all pay for the funeral when the person drowns.

    Comment by MI — June 9, 2013 @ 9:16 am

  57. 51. amazing to think that kids or anybody can learn to access information through technology yet be ignorant of how it is done or even how to read instructions if they get stumped. I have heard it argued that the most computer literate person needs to know at least a minimum of programming. It’s kind of like knowing how to work on your car. If you want robots to raise your kids, good for you. I will sit with an actual book in hand, look them in the eye, inject emotion with voice inflection and be able to pause to talk about how they feel about content, and context, and how it does or doesn’t relate to their lives. I feel much excitement and passion about reading with kids in real flesh and blood world as opposed to virtual world. have a happy virtual life.

    Comment by MI — June 9, 2013 @ 9:43 am

  58. 58
    “I feel much excitement and passion about reading with kids in real flesh and blood world…”

    It’s all about you, right? I would suggest that kids might prefer the robots. And my reading of 51 isn’t about ‘raising kids’ it’s about methods of ‘hands on’ active participation involving kids in the transference of learning. My experience in learning is active participation will beat passive sitting-in-front-of-a lecturer every time.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 9, 2013 @ 10:07 am

  59. And concerning your 57, read the comments on the eastbayexpress piece. They pretty much speak truth to bullshit.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 9, 2013 @ 10:10 am

  60. 59. what is your problem Jack? your f-ing chronic posting here isn’t all about you? so what if volunteer work has a blatantly self serving aspect? That hardly negates the other half. It’s not ALL about anything, nothing ever is. You sound like you need to get out and take a walk or something, get some fresh air. and yeah, I read the comments in the Xpress article which actually run the gamut. as usual one can argue any point if you are selective. Don’t know what you refer to as bullshit exactly, but I also don’t care. But thanks for reading.

    Comment by MI — June 9, 2013 @ 11:02 am

  61. John, hope you read Sunday NYTimes. Blew my mind to go from posting 57 and 58 to reading these. just had to come back and post links cause they seem so ripe..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/opinion/sunday/the-common-core-whos-minding-the-schools.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/opinion/sunday/no-learning-without-feeling.html?ref=opinion

    and also on digital economy. This dude Jarod Lanier is local.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/opinion/sunday/fixing-the-digital-economy.html?ref=opinion

    of yeah, and whatever you get out of any of this, it’s all about me!

    Comment by MI — June 9, 2013 @ 11:11 am

  62. How can anybody go out and get some fresh air when you link 5 voluminous tracts of required reading?

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 9, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

  63. Were Dinosaurs MI……Get over it……..Education has changed…….Learning and Living has Evolved and will grow in leaps and bounds into the future and will be awesome for the Young ones growing up.

    You are a strong believer of everyone having right to a great education. Now kids in a village in india can get World Class Educators for free..They are learning on smart phones .They can learn online and share information and questions with mentors and millions of others watching and learning same thing instantaneously.

    We can still try and retard the students here in California with the power of the Teachers Unions gobbling up all the kids money and alevieating the students of all their resources like technology in the classroom and pools to swim in and labs in science and arts Ect…..

    The kids can handle the Change……The Dinosaur administrators and teachers can’t.

    Most colleges will change dramatically if not totally disappear . They will be experience driven small city with groups of young people sharing ideas and basically having fun together and can pursue any passion they desire both educationally and socially. It’s already happening.

    The Landscape for Educating will be Wide open ……..Old School Teachers can join the Home Ice Delivery people at the ” I Remember When Home “

    Comment by A Dinosaur is a beast of yore but doesn't live here anymore — June 9, 2013 @ 12:12 pm

  64. Jack those links are Excuse Generators for those stuck in quicksand. Get out and get some fresh air.

    Comment by A Dinosaur is a beast of yore but doesn't live here anymore — June 9, 2013 @ 12:16 pm

  65. Perhaps this jsanders is the mysterious “Mr. Sanders” under whose name Winnie the Pooh lived. Hmmmm.

    Comment by Denise Shelton — June 11, 2013 @ 8:19 am

  66. “Jack you have pretty good nose for plants.
    Something Not passing smell test.
    JSanders 128 posted in Philippine Bar Chats and Muscle Magazine…..Facts plantificiatius.
    Lauren Knows the IPs and knows whats up.”

    “To me it looks like both are plants trying to Frame People who don’t like High City Employee Compensations and Hating Poor People.
    BWTDFIK”

    “Its Progressively Correct to do this Jack…….It’s in the Handbook.
    Frame em up and Drop the Wrecking Ball.”

    sanders

    148 up, 46 down

    a well-respected, brilliant leader of men, but a teddy bear at heart. It’s probably why it’s the name over Winnie the Pooh’s door.
    There was complete and utter chaos until Sanders arrived, then there was a warm and fuzzy feeling over all…
    buy sanders mugs & shirts
    teddy teddy bear leader winnie pooh
    by crazyassdispatcher Aug 4, 2007 add a video

    2. sanders

    114 up, 29 down
    A sanders is a person who can tell it like it is while having the balls to do what he wants when he wants. He is a made man who has finally made it to the big time, a true baller. A real sanders exhibits an exuberant knowledge the finer things in life that are often not experienced by common society, such as an eye for fine automobiles, a refined taste in women and is a cannabis connoisseur.
    Hey bro, you looked like a true sanders when you were yolkin that maro with a J hangin’ off your lip.

    Only a true sanders could roll a joint like Bob Marly.

    Wow, look at those two fine beezys with the homie!Hes sure is one hell of a sanders!

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sanders

    Comment by You Didn't need Columbo — June 11, 2013 @ 12:48 pm


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