MI posted a link to this article a few weeks back and I think it’s interesting in light of the historic preservation community in Alameda and its weight when it comes to issue of development in Alameda. The article is about the preservation community in San Francisco and the backlash around a proposed preservation ordinance, highlights:
After more than a decade in which San Francisco politics was partly defined by antidevelopment and historic preservation forces, a backlash has begun. Many are surprised, however, that Beckstead’s neighborhood of 90 Victorian homes, whose owners share a passion for preserving old houses, has become the rebel stronghold against the city’s ambitious plans to preserve large swathes of San Francisco in a patchwork of historic preservation zones.
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But even compatible plans can be frustrated by burdensome regulations, some property owners said.
“I consider myself a preservationist, and I encourage preservation,” said Robin Levitt, an architect who lives in an 1890s false-front Victorian house in the Hayes Valley neighborhood. Levitt said he abandoned plans to replace rotted staircases on the front of his house because historic preservation requirements were too expensive and time-consuming.
“When regulations make it prohibitive economically to make improvements on your property,” Levitt said, “it’s over the top for me.”
This goes back to the whole issue of the Habanas request to remodel its front, when the perception becomes that these historic regulations and rules make it harder for people to make improvements or make it economically unfeasible for a business to stay in business, it becomes much harder for the average person to be in support of wholesale preservation for preservation’s sake alone.
One of the issues that came up in the comments section was about the historic significance because the Habanas building is on the National Register of Historic Places, actually a significant swath of Park Street is on that National Register as well. I tried to look up what the specifics of the Business District was, but apparently that record has not been digitized yet. But as another commenter uncovered, being listed on the National Register of Historic Places doesn’t obligate a private homeowner or property owner to do anything:
From the Federal perspective (the National Register of Historic Places is part of the National Park Service), a property owner can do whatever they want with their property as long as there are no Federal monies attached to the property…
National Register listing places no obligations on private property owners. There are no restrictions on the use, treatment, transfer, or disposition of private property.
While it’s true that the whole of the Park Street Business District has been designated a “Historic Monument” in the City of Alameda and therefore requires a Certificate of Approval from the Historic Advisory Board before any construction is allowed, it’s the lack of consistency that I think is super troublesome for me. For example, while I was listening to the HAB meeting again, I ran across the public comment that really annoyed me the first time I listened to it. This was the statement from the Alameda who scoffed at the stacking door system proposed by Habanas and said that while Habanas said they were trying to evoke a European feel he said he never saw anything like that in photos of Paris or Germany. Personally, I found several photos — mostly from Paris — but a few in Belgium of stacking door systems, but whatever. He also mentioned that he had never seen anything like that in Alameda either. But we all know that one exists, right, and not too far away from Habanas:
Here’s another photo to see the doors closed:
So all this talk about historic stuff made me wonder what Pappos looked like before its current iteration, Alamedainfo.com had this photo of when it was the Skylight Cafe:
As you can see it is vastly different. While the structure is the same, the original door: gone. Original windows: gone. Addition of the outdoor seating area has largely changed the appearance of the entrance as a whole. I can’t tell if the window next to the door way was added or if there was always a window there, but I don’t remember Pappos having difficulty changing up the look and modernizing the front of their historic building. After all, according to the letter that AAPS sent to the HAB:
AAPS considers elements of the corner entry; polychrome tile, wood paneled ceiling, early 20th century bronze-plated steel storefront window system, presumed marble bulkheads, and the wood entry door to be historic materials contributing to the historic character of the property and should be retained. If the paint were removed from the bulkheads and storefront sash, the corner bay would be one of the best preserved historic storefronts in the district.
It’s unclear as to why the Skylight Cafe’s wood entry door and storefront windows were okay to remove from Pappos but not okay when it comes to Habanas. I don’t think that anyone will argue that the new Pappos is not 100% better than the old Skylight Cafe and certainly the more modern touches made did not compromise the historic integrity of the building. I think when it comes to preservation in Alameda the larger question should be asked, what is significant about a particular building or structure as opposed to attempting to find something within the structure to save for the sake of preservation alone.


Bravo, Lauren! Excellent job. Buildings are like antiques. Some were nothing special, or even junk, when they were brand new. Consequently, they don’t have a very high monetary value today either, as anyone suffering from Antiques Roadshow letdown can tell you. Many old objects or features of old buildings were unsafe (the Triangle shirtwaist factory comes to mind) as well. Just because it’s old doesn’t make it worth saving. Preservation passions should be tempered by common sense. There’s value in a going concern, too. Let Habanas do its upgrade.
Comment by Denise Shelton — January 26, 2012 @ 7:00 am
when you go to court and win you are awarded court costs. If Habanas were to appeal to City Council and win, should the cost of the appeal be waved?
Comment by M.I. — January 26, 2012 @ 8:00 am
This clause was probably put in the Standards in order to keep the zealots at bay…doesn’t seem to have worked too well.
“Choosing the most appropriate treatment for a building requires careful decision-making about a building’s historical significance, as well taking into account a number of other considerations:
Relative importance in history. Is the building a nationally significant resource–a rare survivor or the work of a master architect or craftsman? Did an important event take place in it? National Historic Landmarks, designated for their “exceptional significance in American history,” or many buildings individually listed in the National Register often warrant Preservation or Restoration. Buildings that contribute to the significance of a historic district but are not individually listed in the National Register more frequently undergo Rehabilitation for a compatible new use.”
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/CDF8A554-8A7A-496D-BA2A-6109AE270F7B/0/AppE_Link_NPS_SecofInterior_stds.pdf
Comment by Jack Richard — January 26, 2012 @ 8:36 am
We have saved many fine buildings here in Alameda. Look at the building next to the library on Lincoln ave. its certainly a beautiful structure. At least in the eye of the beholder.
Comment by John P. — January 26, 2012 @ 8:52 am
4. It could use a decent paint job. If you’re going to save something, at least make it look nice. Otherwise, we may as well be petitioning to save the “historic” Boatworks.
Comment by Denise Shelton — January 26, 2012 @ 9:04 am
Habanas should be allowed to do what Pappo’s did. The only aspect of the Pappo’s set up that is aesthetically unpleasing is the boxy cardboard-looking enclosure. They’re an upscale place, so why not a classier barrier between patrons and the sidewalk? (Witness the wrought iron enclosure at the Afghan place down the street.)
#1, the Triangle tragedy had much more to do with the avarice of the factory owners (locking the workers in, unsafe factory floor conditions) than with the building itself. That, and the fact that the NYFD only had ladders that could reach the 6th floor and fire started a few floors above that.
Comment by Kristen — January 26, 2012 @ 9:52 am
Denise, my #4 was tongue in cheek, it should have been torn down as it has no useful purpose or any redeeming value. Its just old like me.
Comment by John P. — January 26, 2012 @ 10:01 am
Come on, J P if you weren’t usefully working the Jam, it wouldn’t be worth the bread it’s spread on.
Comment by Jack Richard — January 26, 2012 @ 12:03 pm
Can Alameda be far behind…
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/secondhandsmoke/2012/01/25/santa-monica-votes-for-nature-rights/
Comment by Jack Richard — January 26, 2012 @ 12:22 pm
Jack I wish we were closer to Chagrin Falls than Santa Monica
In the Era of Big Boxes, a Day for the Little Guy
CHAGRIN FALLS, Ohio (AP) – It began quietly, as an email to 40 friends.
But when a steady stream of customers began coming through the door before the family-owned Chagrin Hardware had even opened for the day on Saturday, it was clear that it had turned into much more than that.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/01/26/in-the-era-of-big-boxes-a-day-for-the-little-guy/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl18%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D130487
Comment by John — January 26, 2012 @ 9:40 pm
Skylight Cafe won an AAPS Preservation Award in 1998 for scraping the stucco off the art deco tile and transom above the awning, a feature that Pappo still retains, though not shown too well in your photo.
Comment by Kevis Brownson — January 27, 2012 @ 2:08 am
Also I am not sure that the doors present on the Skylight Cafe were “original” to the 1931 building, whose first tenant was a retail outlet for the Alameda Dairy Company. The door in your picture looks more like a dive bar door. By the time Skylight Cafe won the award in 1998 for work they mainly did in 1995, they had replaced this door with one similar to Troy next door.
Comment by Kevis Brownson — January 27, 2012 @ 2:17 am
Hi Kevis: I found this photo as part of the City’s Facade Grant Improvement update in 2008, here is the original presented of Pappos:
The door looks the Skylight Cafe door, or something very similiar.
Comment by Lauren Do — January 27, 2012 @ 6:15 am
10. I think picking a store to support would be fun to do. Thanks, John. Also, did you notice that store had similar doors to what we’ve been discussing?
It bothers me that rules/rulings aren’t more even-handed. For instance it is okay for eateries around the theater to fence off sidewalk for their seating, forcing pedestrians to walk single file or in the street, but not okay to do the same on other streets around town. It seems to be the same with the facades, the windows, the signage. It is all irregular, not only where and what, but there is no point in the execution of the project where a change can’t be demanded even if it means redoing good stuff.
I don’t know who Anonymous is, but I thought his comment on the what you can do without a permit article was to the point. The article itself explained why people ignore it all and just do what’s necessary to anchor the Ikea bookshelf to the stud or put the plug into the socket.
Comment by Li_ — January 27, 2012 @ 9:22 am
Hi Lauren,
Yes, when Pappo opened they used the Skylight Cafe door opening at first before they put in the stacking doors. But Skylight Cafe themselves changed the door from the one you are showing in your picture of Skylight Cafe. It did not have the porthole door the whole time. It had a single panel door with glass in the center similar to the one at Troy. You can’t see it in the picture you printed of Pappo because it is open. I don’t have a photograph but I do have a drawing.
Comment by Kevis Brownson — January 27, 2012 @ 5:25 pm
Just wanted to post the drawing that Kevis referenced in the above the comment:
Comment by Lauren Do — January 27, 2012 @ 6:16 pm
Li
Here is Chargin Falls Fees for Commercial and Residential Improvement From Planning. How do these match of with Alameda.
1309.10 ADDITIONS TO INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, ALTERATIONS AND REPAIRS.
The fees for additions to industrial or commercial buildings, alterations and repairs, if no State permit is required, shall be as follows:
Building permit
Initial fee per floor or story
$ 200.00
Additional fee per 100 square feet or fraction thereof, (floor area shall be measured by using outside building dimensions and shall include all floors, including the basement)
5.00
Plumbing permit
100.00
Electrical permit
100.00
Heating permit
100.00
1309.03 ADDITIONS TO SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, ALTERATIONS AND REPAIRS.
The fees for additions to single-family dwellings, alterations and repairs, shall be as follows:
Building permit
Not exceeding 200 square feet
$ 25.00
Each additional 100 square feet or fraction thereo
5.00
Plumbing permit
40.00
Electrical permit
60.00
Heating permit
40.00
http://www.conwaygreene.com/Chagrin/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&2.0
Comment by John — January 27, 2012 @ 7:06 pm
I don’t know. Without all the other numbers from there and all the numbers from here so we could make all those adjustments necessary to make the figures comparable . . . . If you want that done, I’d suggest finding an actuary, financial expert, or some such. If you want us all to get together and agree to go to Encinal Hardware and spend at least $5 on February 1, like they did in Chargin Falls, I’m in. If you want someone to do equations, I’m out.
Comment by Li_ — January 27, 2012 @ 8:16 pm
I know that some people find it difficult to use sometimes, but Google popped up the following link detailing the Park Street Historic Commercial District:
http://www.noehill.com/alameda/nat1982002154.aspx
Comment by Alan Teague — February 2, 2012 @ 6:42 pm