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June 4, 2008

The results…depressing

Filed under: Alameda, Election, School — Tags: , , — Lauren Do @ 6:39 am

Yes folks, the results are in and thanks to a running tally by Tony Daysog and David Kirwin I was able to relive the experience of last night, which I was trying to avoid.

Here’s the major inequity of our voting system.   When the Constitutional Amendment to limit marriage as only between a man and woman comes up for a vote come November, it only requires a simply majority (50% +1) to wrest away basic civil rights from a significant portion of our population.   But try and get funding for basic necessities in our town, our own city, that takes a super majority of a 2/3 vote, yet another reason to thank Prop 13 for.

But as Tom Pavletic opined on the Don Roberts show when asked about his efforts to bring down Measure H as opposed to simply running for yet another office, broadly summarizing here since I don’t have a photographic memory, he stated that since his message simply doesn’t resonate with people, as evident from his showing in the last few election, bringing down parcel taxes like this was so much easier because you only needed to get 1/3 of the vote rather than even a majority.  Ahh…nothing says “democracy in action” like doing the very least you need to just get by.

In the end, the amazing efforts of all those involved in the KASE campaign was simply not enough to reach the threshold required.   However, there are provisonal ballots left to be counted (as reported by Michele Ellson courtsey of Mike McMahon’s site), and as supporters all pray for a miracle that the provional ballots will turn out enough votes to make the difference.   

What makes this too close to count finish even more depressing is the number of other cities that have resoundingly said, “yes! Schools are important in my community, I want to help” in the form of parcel taxes passing all over the Bay Area, including “kid and family unfriendly” San Francisco, which was passing at a rate of 70%.   Mountain View’s parcel tax passed at a staggering 83% rate   Los Gatos’s passed at an 82% rate for a much higher parcel tax at $290 per parcel.

Yet in our Island Mayberry, so touted for being “family friendly” with its small town feel, couldn’t find enough community spirit to pass a pittance of a tax to support the education of its most valuable residents.  Here’s the bright side though, there were lots of people writing into the Sun and Journal and to this blog and others to tell us exactly what the school district was doing wrong and what they should do to change it.   So, hopefully after this is all over, those opinionated folks who know how a school district should really be run should be invited to a meeting with the Superintendent and CFO to share their ideas of cost cutting measures for the school district.   They can start at the top trying to eliminate all the perceived excess postions, and run their way down the chain of command and demand that teachers be compensated less to do more work.   That’s the spirit of community, how can we as a community make our education system do more with less and less every year!   What can we just “get by” with?  After all, it’s just the education of our kids, our future leaders and caretakers of our futures.    

I think we’ll all enjoy having these discussions as well when we need to talk about adjustments in fire and police services too.

Oh yeah, and Loni Hancock won.

155 Comments »

  1. Thank God Measure H did not pass!!!

    Comment by John Houston — June 4, 2008 @ 7:24 am

  2. I’m sure the Almighty approves of your gloating after striking H down.

    Can I say the word “Ass-Hat” here? Sure would like to. Thanks.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 7:34 am

  3. Sure you can say “Ass-Hat.” It is a “free” country. In fact, that is why our educational system is in the state that it is … because too many immigrants are going to our schools for “free” and sucking up our tax dollars. Stop making me pay to feed, clothe, and educate the rest of the world and I would be happy to pay ONE MORE TAX on my property. Until then, thank God Measure H did not pass!!!

    :-)

    Comment by John Houston — June 4, 2008 @ 7:44 am

  4. I am so sad. Not only is music being cut at the elementary level, Island High is losing their music teacher, and music is being cut to a part time program at Alameda High School. Thank you, cheapskate minority who have just succeeded in halting the progress of our schools toward excellence.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 7:45 am

  5. Three cheers for fiscal responsibility and living within one’s means. When I was a kid, if my dad did not have the money, I did not get my allowance. If the state has cuts, we all must feel the pain. If the problem is with how the state funds or cuts money, fix that problem. Don’t ask people to bail out the state every single time this happens. Happy that H is not passing.

    Comment by Alameda Poncho — June 4, 2008 @ 7:48 am

  6. I’m so glad we have people like John Houston, whose ancestors obviously never immigrated from somewhere else to espouse hypocritical comments.

    The loss is depressing, much more so because it was only a loss of about 200 votes.

    The pavlatics, kirwins, houstons and howards can take satisfaction that they probably got by by muddying the discussion enough to defeat measure H

    Comment by notadave — June 4, 2008 @ 7:49 am

  7. Every single parcel tax that failed won a simple minority too. Prop. 13 hurts, again and again.

    Comment by phastphill — June 4, 2008 @ 7:55 am

  8. > Thank you, cheapskate minority who have just succeeded in halting the progress of our schools toward excellence. <

    “Halting the progress?” That’s really going to happen? If that were actually true, then AUSD has more problems than could be solved by Measure H. But cheer up! If there are still provisional ballots to be counted, the Fat Lady hasn’t yet sung.

    Frankly, I don’t think the measure’s failure was due to ‘cheapskates’. Rather, it’s because 4676 voters saw through the hype and misleading information coughed up by the KASE folks.

    Comment by Rich Sievers — June 4, 2008 @ 7:58 am

  9. Let the scapegoating begin.

    Comment by AD — June 4, 2008 @ 8:01 am

  10. I voted for the last parcel tax but finally said “enough is enough” and voted against this one. That makes me a cheapskate? Some of you people are awfully ungrateful.

    Comment by Will Hanks — June 4, 2008 @ 8:15 am

  11. Measure H supporters, don’t fret. I’m sure another parcel tax will be on the next ballot…and the next…and the next…that’s just the way these things work. Pols, ‘Crats, campaign consultants, and special interests all need to “earn” a living after all.

    Comment by Boogie Boy — June 4, 2008 @ 8:25 am

  12. All you anti-H’ers are jackasses

    Comment by Jim Frieberg — June 4, 2008 @ 8:31 am

  13. Exactly how much did KASE spend on their failed campaign? That money would have bought a few trumpets, don’t ya think?

    Comment by tj — June 4, 2008 @ 8:32 am

  14. Well, people. It’s just not rocket science. We live in a state that chronically underfunds education. If you look around at California school districts that are running smoothly, providing the things we expect from schools–like extra help for students who need it and enrichment for those who are advanced, as well as music, art, science and athletics— they all have ‘extra’ sources of funding, be it through education foundations, PTA fundraising, or parcel taxes. Usually a combo of the three. So, while everyone get chitter chatter about excess and bloat and yadda-yadda too many taxes, the fact is that AUSD is making do with way less–in part because of messed up state funding formulas and in part because we as a community haven’t quite yet come together (in high enough numbers) to support our schools, our island, our children. I hope next time we have a parcel tax on the ballot–and there will be a next time, undoubtedly (not because there’s any excess or scandal but simply because it requires actual funding to provide quality services)–we can all hold on tight to the big picture: education matters, people matter, democracy matters. And step forward to support our own.

    Comment by Eve — June 4, 2008 @ 8:38 am

  15. I predict, very little will change (unfortunately) as a result of this miserable Measure failing. My daughter attends Alameda High School and the district pays next to nothing for music. Almost everything has always been paid for by the parents and fund raising by the students themselves. The only cheapskate out there, is the school district, and the cheapest stunt of all is threatening athletics and arts whenever they sense a budget shortfall. The district has lost the confidence of many of us, tired of them coming for our money every 3-4 years due to ineptness and poor planning. There are more equitable ways of taxing the citizens and this parcel tax was not one of them. I have consistently voted against all of them, and slowly others are coming to the realization that “enough is enough” and have put a stop to it. The district had plenty of meetings open to public on what they would be cutting for our students, in a futile attempt to scare us supporting a parcel tax. The district needs to expend the same amount of time and energy on equitable means of funding the schools, and coming up with a VIABLE long term budget plan. Taxing me every 3-4 years is not a good plan. So good bye Measure H, hooray hooray and good riddance to this reflex action whenever the school budget needs to be fed.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 4, 2008 @ 8:38 am

  16. My guess is… we are feeding a single troll who takes his names from westerns.

    Jim, as Tiff has pointed out… we really should understand why people were against this. But the jackasses (not a fan of this phrase) might use their imagination to picture 30 1st graders in a room w/ one teacher before they gloat. Because that’s who they voted against.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 8:38 am

  17. Gee we seem a lot of new avatars posting today.

    My website has a recap of what needs to happen post election for Measure H to pass. Yes, it borders on a true miracle but stranger things have happened.

    Once we get the number of absentee ballots handed in at the polls that still to be counted then we will know if Measure H has a chance.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 4, 2008 @ 8:44 am

  18. Actually I voted against pay raises for school district employees and administrators and teachers in the midst of a budget crises. Belt tightening begins in the school district, not in my living room. If we allow the district to start putting 30 1st graders in a room with one teacher without protest, while they pocket pay raises and increase staff then we deserve what we get. This school district needs a plan, and taxing me every 3-4 years is not a plan that is going to fly.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 4, 2008 @ 8:47 am

  19. Gee, Joseph you already said the same thing. Are you glad to see your property value drop too?

    Comment by Jim Frieberg — June 4, 2008 @ 8:49 am

  20. Joseph, I didn’t mean to imply you were a troll. I do understand your sentiments. But the biggest losers here are little kids, imho.

    Houston/Poncho/Hanks, I suspect, is a troll.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 8:49 am

  21. Joseph,

    Your spelling, syntax and sentence structure indicate that you attended an underfunded school.

    Comment by Citizen X — June 4, 2008 @ 8:59 am

  22. The comments here do not surprise me. Again and again people never hesitate to raise taxes but they are so unwilling to cut spending. How much is this gay/lesbian/transgender education costing us? Let’s cut that. I’m sure there are other non-sense programs that can be cut too. You would think with the enormous budget that goes to schools in this state that we would have the best schools in the country but we’re far from it. Most of the state school budget never leaves Sacramento and you want me to vote to give the bureaucrats more money to waste? Forget it!

    Maybe, just maybe, if they had less money to spend on pointless curriculum like “alternative lifestyles” they would spend more than 30 minutes a day on my child’s math instruction. But I guess math instruction is not as important as teaching him how to cross dress and feel ok about it.

    Comment by Born and Raised Alameda — June 4, 2008 @ 9:43 am

  23. If you don’t like it, send your kid to private school … take some personal responsibility people :-)

    Comment by Kelly B — June 4, 2008 @ 10:12 am

  24. What do you mean “enormous budget”? We also have an enormous population. Do you understand how ratio and proportion work? Or did you not have a good enough math education? It is easy to assume that all tax dollars go to “bureaucrats to waste” but in this case it is actual programs for actual kids that will be cut.

    It is clear that you don’t have any real knowledge of the finances and numbers involved. You just resent the fact that school are more diverse and open-minded than they were when you were a wee lad. Too bad your ignorant and selfish views were allowed to compromise my children’s education.

    Comment by Fed up with selfish gloaters — June 4, 2008 @ 10:18 am

  25. I think the kids know about music, people. My music classes in school were cursory. Kids who want to play an instrument will play one. The rest of the kids have already formed their musical tastes.

    As for sports it’s pretty funny to see “progressives” yelping about the supposed elimination of them in schools. I thought that sports were too “competive” and “war like” for liberals. Also it makes the poor nerd kids feel bad to get picked last and otherwise just suck at playing sports.

    We low income people who choose not to have kids are just not interested in giving any more money to your rude kids who terrorise us on public transit and throw their MacDonald’s wrappers in our front yards.

    Comment by Mialexa — June 4, 2008 @ 10:31 am

  26. It is easy to see why your income is low.

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 10:34 am

  27. I have a bias in favor of music programs because I was very involved in music when I was in school. I was also involved in sports, but for a lot of kids music is the alternative to sports and provides an important outlet; it helps keep them out of trouble. The difference between playing music in school and playing an instrument on your own (or starting your own band) is that the school band is like the equivalent of a sports team at the school. You learn about working together, not just about how to play an instrument. If I had to money to do real philanthropy I would fund an endowment for music programs for school age children.

    Comment by Michael Rich — June 4, 2008 @ 10:40 am

  28. If you can’t afford to buy your kid a flute, STOP REPRODUCING you freakin’ cockroaches. BTW, regarding measure h … HA! Go back to your government cheese MOOCHER …

    … and have a nice day :)

    Comment by Fed Up With Moochers — June 4, 2008 @ 10:58 am

  29. Congratulations Loni!

    Comment by Yeah for Loni — June 4, 2008 @ 11:01 am

  30. A MESSAGE TO THE PTA – I would happily vote for a bill that taxes the renters for a change.

    Comment by Tax the Renters — June 4, 2008 @ 11:05 am

  31. Wow – all the people that have spoken against measure H on this site have been very creepy – thank god they are a minority – unfortunatly just not a small enough one…

    I volunteered and went door to door – I rememeber this ‘mean old bastard’(1) – the guy was clearly exempt but wouldn’t have anything to do with supporting the measure.

    Great minority we have…

    (1) Dusk till Dawn

    Comment by ChrisO — June 4, 2008 @ 11:09 am

  32. All the new avatars, spousing some pretty hateful stuff are worth noting today. Like others have said, my guess is it just 1 person.

    But so now the parcel tax has lost, I hope that KASE and AEF organize a community meeting soon to talk about what other positive steps we can take (lobbying/agitating in Sacramento, community fundraisers, etc.) to keep the schools going. PRior to measure H I probably wouldn’t have attended, but now I am motivated to go.

    AS for all the talk of music/sport Measure H would have also prevented the cutting of AP courses, which could now keep many of our high school students out of a good college. I hope they don’t end up like the troll that has visited us today.

    Comment by notadave — June 4, 2008 @ 11:18 am

  33. Reference Property Taxes. Enough already about how our best in the state schools and best in the nation high schools will collapse tomorrow because the poorly constructed Measure H failed. Alameda is a very generous community and smart enough to take care of the schools, but Measure H was taking advantage. All organizations have layers of fat and inefficiencies in it. Alameda School District has less than other school districts and a lot more than most nonprofits and commercial organizations. So lets stop with the over the top threats to cut AP classes and sports and music. We are wise to that game. Those are the last things to cut, but the school district uses them to incite the uninformed. The district needs to live within its means and we citizens need to toss out those elected officials that have been sitting up in Sacramento and twiddling their thumbs while Rome burns. I hesitate to mention the party that has been in control of our budget these past decades, but it seems like time for a change. When we have had enough with our state funds being spent on “nice to do” things while “must dos” are deprived, then it is clear the priority of our officials is out of whack. Instead of blindly voting party loyalty, vote on the issues and measure effectiveness while in office. I absolutely agree that positive steps such as lobbying Sacramento, community fundrasers etc are the first step to take, as well as a FAIR and intelligently crafted measure for the November Ballot that will fix long term funding problems for the school district. Measure H was a quickly concocted knee jerk reflex to get MO MONEY. Tax the small guy and small business. I am glad it did not fly.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 4, 2008 @ 11:43 am

  34. Today I learned something new, the real problems with the underfunding of our public education are
    a) The immigrants, and,
    b) The annoying need to educate the next generation on tolerance of “alternative lifestyles”.

    Words cannot express my disillusionment.

    Comment by MarkD — June 4, 2008 @ 12:09 pm

  35. I agree with Joseph, AND I have two kids who will be attending Alameda public schools. I came to my decision to vote NO on H after multiple visits from Prop H. supporters and hearing their arguments in favor of the measure. After speakng for nearly, none of them had any long-term vision for viability of Alameda’s public school system despite my repeated questions on the topic.

    I already spend over 10% of my adjusted gross income (AGI) on property tax, and feel that I contribute more than my fair share of taxes. When CA State Income tax is added, my total tax burden is almost 20% of my AGI. So I have a vested interest in seeing that Alameda public schools succeed and don’t turn into the racially-segregated and bankrupt piles of rubble like the nearby Oakland and San Francisco public schools.

    What I am looking for is a return to basics in the school’s management, namely a focus on schooling (rather than feel-good subjects like “Ebonics” and “gender identity”) and long-term financial planning. Is that too much to ask for? Does that make me a hater?

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 12:17 pm

  36. I have no idea how that smiley face appeared. My apologies. No hatred intended.

    I meant to add “global warming” to the list of feel-good subjects.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

  37. Doesn’t make you a hater James, just shows your ignorance of the process.

    Outside of parcel taxes, which are less than 5% of per-student funding, AUSD has almost zero control over its funding.
    Nearly all of it is determined and controlled by the State, making long term financial planning extremely difficult.

    AUSD has done a pretty good job of it anyway. Admin costs are quite a bit lower than county avg, as are teacher salaries, yet the API has continued to improve. A business that succeeds in a challenging environment is usually rewarded with more capital. AUSD should be also, ESPECIALLY if you don’t want it to turn into another Oakland.

    And I’d love to see any evidence that “ebonics” is taught in Alameda schools.

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

  38. Lauren: Wow. Alameda’s old-school (or no school) “hillbillies” are back and they finally found out how to turn on their “komputters.” The displays of bigotry and ignorance have been astonishing so far. People, please — let’s all “man” or “woman”-up here and use our real names on these posts. Sheesh.

    Comment by Jeff Mitchell — June 4, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

  39. The connection between a NO on Measure H and going back to basics/dropping “feel good” courses doesn’t really add up. Like, at all. Certainly not to the tune of a few million dollars. So Mr. Chen, you may not be a hater, just seemingly misguided.

    Comment by AnneD — June 4, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

  40. Yeah, people should be making sure that Alameda schools teach kids how to count change and be respectful of their elders. Then maybe they could get jobs. As for them being taught tolerance of homosexuality in school or out of it, don’t worry about that. I guess since you all don’t ride the bus, nobody realizes that Alameda teens’ 2 favorite words in the English language are “faggot ass.” They are about as tolerant of gays as they are of anyone else. Which is to say they, and their parents are the most self centered people on earth. If you can’t understand why people don’t want their hard earned dollars taken away and given to others, there is no talking to you. As for me being low income, I guess all the parents posting on here are too, or they would send their kids to private school.

    Comment by Mialexa — June 4, 2008 @ 12:38 pm

  41. Agree 100% with dave.

    The prop H supporters that go door to door are volunteers working on their days off. It is their job to alert you to the issue and it is your job to research the issue and vote the way you see fit. If you voted, based on not getting the answers you needed from volunteers, then you really should have just stayed home.

    Comment by ChrisO — June 4, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

  42. I think Chen is trapped by his ideals.

    On an idealistic basis, I share some of his sentiment but this is Reality we are dealing w/ here (as dave points out.)

    James, you don’t have to subject your youngsters to larger class sizes to retain your subscription to The Economist.

    I think it’s important that school boosters understand Joseph’s points because I think it’s on target as to why many are Anti-H. Sounds like some of my neighbors verbatum… and these same people are still generous/charitable people involved in this community.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

  43. “Ebonics” was meant as a jab at the Oakland public schools, where an attempt was made in the 1990s to add it to the curriculum. Unfortunately, so-called global warming is being added to our kids’ curriculum.

    To your point Dave, I have very little control over what the state, federal and local government authorities will take out of my paycheck, but that does not mean I cannot plan long-term. For example, I know that Social Security is on course to go bankrupt when I turn 65. So I’ve adjusted by adding more money to my 401k (whenever possible). I’ll probably add a few dollars to my wife’s IRA as well. Likewise, if Obama is elected President, he’s promised to raise capital gains taxes from 15% to 28%, and dividends taxes from 15% to up to 39.4% (as ordinary income). In this situation, I will adjust by putting more non-401k money into tax-free municipal bonds.

    Perhaps those of you with kids can relate to this: My wife and I knew that we would have children someday, so prior to our wedding, we began saving some money in a rainy day fund–in case she needed to leave work to take care of the kids. And of course, this turned out to be the case, and the rainy day fund has proved its worth.

    Call me “ignorant”, but don’t call me “uninformed”.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 12:48 pm

  44. James,

    You have far more control over your income & spending than AUSD does of its.

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

  45. James
    I don’t think anyone called you “uninformed”. I also missed the comment where your financial planning skills were called into question. So your second post is a bit of an irrelevant rant.

    Comment by AnneD — June 4, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

  46. Jack,

    I don’t read the Economist, nor do I subscribe to magazines. I cannot afford them, nor do I have the time to read much. You can read details of my lifestyle at my “Low Impact Man” blog here: http://noimpactman.blogspot.com.

    I am trapped by reality: I’m the sole wage-earner in 4-person househld whose total tax burden is about 50% of my AGI. I am not an immigrant-basher, nor am I a homophobe (is that the right term?) I just do not feel that higher taxes are the solution to the problems described here.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

  47. Those must be some seriously expensive feel good classes.

    Comment by MarkD — June 4, 2008 @ 1:01 pm

  48. James, since you are somewhat of a financial visionary maybe you can be part of the Post-H find-a-better-way effort.

    You have the incentive to be constructive, yes?

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

  49. AnneD,

    I am calling into question AUSD’s financial planning skills. Many municipalities and school districts have a “rainy day” fund. So do I.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:03 pm

  50. And how do you think these districts fill their rainy day funds James?

    Comment by AnneD — June 4, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

  51. If you will elect me onto the Alameda school board, I would be more than willing to offer up my financial talents and organzational skills.

    I have experience with non-profits. About 10 years ago, I started an organization called the California Dragon Boat Association http://www.cdba.org. I would be happy to go over the finances of this fine (and self-sustaining) charity. I was their chief fundraiser, and did I learn a lot about finances!

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:10 pm

  52. Question: “And how do you think these districts fill their rainy day funds James?”

    Answer: By spending less than what they take in.

    That was easy.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

  53. MarkD – “Those must be some seriously expensive feel good classes.”

    Actually, it’s about time and opportunity costs. Time spent on one classroom subject, such as “global warming”, means less time spent on others. Likewise, I’d rather the schools each about genetics than “Asian-American History Month”. However, some people prefer otherwise.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:14 pm

  54. Jack – “You don’t have to subject your youngsters to larger class sizes…”

    Yes I will, if the schools cut back. My kids are going to Alameda public schools. I can’t afford private schools.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:17 pm

  55. You might wanna look into the curriculum just so that you know what you are talking about. You might realize that the types of classes you would rather have are headed for the chopping block, and that those classes you seem to think they have and would have no problem cutting, like say “Asian-American History Month” among others, are mostly in your head.

    Comment by MarkD — June 4, 2008 @ 1:23 pm

  56. AUSD does have a “rainy day fund,” it’s called a “Reserve.” Problem is, it’s not enough to cover the shortfall from the cuts to the state budget. Added to that is the state limitation on how much a school district can drain that reserve.

    I would imagine that most people would want their School Board members to understand that prior to electing them to the School Board.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 4, 2008 @ 1:24 pm

  57. MarkD – “You might wanna look into the curriculum just so that you know what you are talking about.”

    I do. My 5-year old goes to Henry Haight School. I saw a lot of “Black History Month” projects posted on the boards in the hallway earlier in the year. Or maybe I was imagining that…(cue in the Twilight Zone music)

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:28 pm

  58. On the reserve fund, that’s good to know, Lauren. And thanks for not attacking me!

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:29 pm

  59. Black History Month’s presence in the cirriculum is state-mandated.

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 1:31 pm

  60. BHM is not a class, It is a nationally observed time which doesn’t come at a multi-million dollar cost to AUSD or Haight.Sorry James, but from what you’ve posted on here you are indeed “uninformed”, at least as it pertains to AUSD and its schools.Hopefully you will do yourself and your kids the favor of becoming informed, or not.

    Comment by MarkD — June 4, 2008 @ 1:34 pm

  61. Dave – “Black History Month’s presence in the curriculum is state-mandated.”

    I’d rather my kids learn about “American History”, warts, points-of-light and all. That’s just my preference.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:35 pm

  62. They will. They just might not get to take an in-depth AP US History class at AHS. No prolem, it’s not like colleges like that.

    Comment by AnneD — June 4, 2008 @ 1:38 pm

  63. MarkD – “BHM is not a class…”

    I never referred to it as a class. I mentioned classroom time and tradeoffs, and offered it up as an example of “opportunity cost”.

    Hey, I even offered to sacrifice “Asian-American History Month”! I thought racial identity was a hot topic all of you “progressives” talk about at the dinner table, so why bother repeating it in school? [That was a joke]

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

  64. Is not the experience of 12% of the population whose experience is central to several epochal events in American History worth a mention in the history curriculum? You seem to envision Black History all day/everyday oe some such other absurdity.

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

  65. After reading through the militant garbage in this thread, I must say that I am glad that my kids go to private school.

    Comment by Alameda Parent — June 4, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

  66. Loved talking to you all, but I gotta go now. See you all at the next Code Pink rally!

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 1:44 pm

  67. 65

    What is the per-student funding of your private school?

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 1:47 pm

  68. James Chen is just talking his book, per usual.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 2:17 pm

  69. Black History Month IS American history.

    Comment by Jclo — June 4, 2008 @ 2:31 pm

  70. Here we go again, “so-called global warming” (in #43), misinformed about BHM etc.

    James, sorry man … but you do sound uninformed! :)

    Comment by alameda — June 4, 2008 @ 2:58 pm

  71. The well has run dry for this form of tax. You just can’t keep taxing the same group of people over and over. Renters do not pay the tax, nor do seniors. Those with estates in the Gold Coast pay the same as those with studio condos at Southshore. The middle-class has already been squeezed dry and think that it is someone else’s turn.

    As for all those “Yes on H” people who did not turn out to vote — they never existed. I know someone with one of those signs who told me that they were voting No. He simply wanted to get the H people off his back.

    As for re-writing H and hitting up a different group, I think that the parcel tax approach is dead in Alameda for now. There have just been too many over the past few years. The state funding formula is unfair to Alameda and must be changed. The “round up the usual taxpayers” approach is simply not going to work.

    I think that teachers need to be paid a decent wage and receive regular increases and cost of living. They need to make ends meet and lead a comfortable life if we want to continue to attract good teachers. However, the rest of the middle-class is also being squeezed right now. To ask them to simply pay more is not much different than expecting teachers to take a pay cut.

    This campaign seems to have generated a lot of anger on both sides. It isn’t helpful. Those opposed to the tax need to understand that the proponents only wanted to do what they thought was best for the children. Proponents need to see that those opposed believed this to be an unfair tax that was going to further empty their purses. Both are valid concerns. The trick will be to bring everyone together for a solution that has wide acceptance.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 4, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

  72. So a bigger majority than any President since James Madison doesn’t constitute “wide acceptance?”

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 3:58 pm

  73. Naytiff,

    I have a question for you, and I’m asking it in all sincerity. What would you suggest be done to change the state funding formula?

    One thing to keep in mind is that for every Alameda that is getting less than its fair share, there’s a Dublin or similar that’s getting more than its fair share. Appealing to a sense of fairness doesn’t seem to go very far in politics especially when there are equally powerful interests in keeping the status quo. And “throw the bastards out” doesn’t seem to be making much headway either.

    If you are suggesting litigation, that may be a viable option (and I know that it is being investigated), but it could take years and the cost of litigation is oppressive. In a recent education funding case, the attorneys fees and costs for the Plaintiffs exceeded $14 million. So unless AUSD can come up with an attorney with extremely deep pockets who is willing to take on litigation on a pro bono basis, the cost would be prohibitive.

    So I am asking, sincerely, what ideas do you have for getting the funding formula fixed?

    Comment by Page — June 4, 2008 @ 4:03 pm

  74. “Alameda Mayor Beverly Johnson cited the inequality in state funding received by school districts; per-student allocations vary widely around the state.

    ‘You are absolutely correct. ‘… It’s outrageous,” the governor said. “We are going to go after those spending formulas, we are working on that.’ ”

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9459911

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 4, 2008 @ 4:07 pm

  75. Naytiff,

    Yes. I had heard about that comment. But the Governor and others have been saying the same thing for years, and nothing has happened. So how do we light a fire under Sacramento to get real funding changes enacted?

    Comment by Page — June 4, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

  76. Re my post earlier. Just met with AHS and music will continue one full time teacher next year; however, Island High will not have a music program.

    Most other school districts with the programs we have been sustaining have higher parcel taxes than we do. It is definitely not administrative fat that we have; that did not survive previous years’ budget cuts. I am not now nor ever have been a teacher, but I think that they are underpaid for what they do.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 4:21 pm

  77. Page, maybe we the parents need to pass the hat around and hire some hotshot lobbyists. Sort of like The Seven Samurai.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 4:22 pm

  78. And James Chen,
    My husband and I also planned for children and I was able to stay home with them while they were young. What does that have to do with funding for schools? It is very difficult for schools to plan ahead because they don’t even know what their budget will be until after they have finalize their next year’s plan.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

  79. We need to focus on the positive of Measure H not passing: We all get to save $120 per year! Sure our school district is circling the drain, and our property values will probably plummet……..But hey, we each get to save some big bucks……

    Comment by Jeff G — June 4, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

  80. yes jeff we can spend it at the movies.

    Comment by jack b — June 4, 2008 @ 4:37 pm

  81. #76

    Beverly Johnson picked the right horse in yesterday’s Senate race. (Way to go, Bev!) The mayor obviously has political ambitions beyond the island. This issue is tailor-made for her. She has political connections and needs a signature issue to move her beyond the realm of soccer mom from a small town. She is also an attorney and hopefully has some ties in the legal community. She at least got a response out of the governor. I would suggest that she follow-up with the governor and work with his already on-going effort to equalize funding.

    Some people keep referring to communities like Piedmont that pass $1000 parcel tax measures. This just shows how unequal our public schools are. All this form of taxation does is create further inequality. The kids in Oakland count just as much as the kids in Alameda. Problems do not begin or end at the city limits.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 4, 2008 @ 4:39 pm

  82. I just want to thank you for your outstanding work.

    Comment by David Sayen — June 4, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

  83. The anger, withering condescension, and ad hominem attacks in this thread are discouraging to me. There are good reasons for and against Prop H. Can’t we weigh the issues civilly without insulting people who disagree with us? Isn’t that what a good education should teach us how to do?

    Comment by calm_down — June 4, 2008 @ 5:18 pm

  84. I just posted this on Eve’s blog but it is what is keeping me going right now so I will shout it anywhere I can post it…

    “Right now the anti-H people are having their laugh…

    We may win this or not but keep one thing in mind. When you walk down the street 6 1/2 of all the people who pass you by thought that this was a good idea. Our cute little 1/2’s are getting bigger everyday and their minds are growing in some of the best schools in this country. Before your very eyes they are turning into 2/3’s and we will win.”

    Comment by Barbara M — June 4, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

  85. #78 — Sounds like a plan. If you toss in the $480 you would have paid over 4 years and I toss in my $480, we should be able to pay for about an hour and a quarter of a hot shot lobbyist’s time. (BTW: I don’t mean to denigrate your idea that parents should chip in. I’m all for that. It’s just that we’ll have to get a lot of parents to chip in a lot of money to have any real impact.)

    And Naytiff, it just so happens that I have a few connections in the legal community myself, but I would be pretty hard pressed to find someone who would be willing to front $14 million worth of litigation — even if I were the mayor of Alameda.

    Comment by Page — June 4, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

  86. Sorry to hear that you are discouraged. I’m celebrating and so are many people that were tired of hearing the same old lousy solutions to not enough mulah for the schulah.

    I thought James Chen made some good points about getting our schools to focus on education basics and cited some excellent examples of things that can go. My girl at Alameda High School had a blast with the Belly Dancing class, but that’s something that’s “nice to do” and can be on the chopping block. Everyone with a kid in the system honestly knows there is a lot of fat in our school systems and a lot of waste of student time there. Its time to get serious and quit playing around with the “wouldn’t it nice” activities at the schools.

    If you are looking for suggestions, how about doing away with that stupid Hospital Tax, which a lot of us would willingly give to the school district. That White Elephant needs to be chopped down to an oversized emergency room. That is also some serious change, not a lousy 120 bucks.

    But nooooo, we have so many sacred cows, so many schools that we can not close, we must have a full hospital that almost everyone can not use etc. The well has run dry and it is time to prioritize.

    It doesn’t help to cry the sky is falling when our schools are doing pretty good as it is. Kind of like crying poor while driving a Lexus. Enforcing school regulations, such as increasing residency checks to expel folks from Oakland would do a great deal to alleviate over crowding. These are obvious and inexpensive things that can be done, but some cry out that it is politically incorrect. Over taxing the law abiding while giving the scofflaws a free ride is making a lot of people bitter. Pretending to cut all athletics and music and arts is indicative of how the school district deals with its citizens. They just aren’t serious, or lack the courage to make the hard choices of letting people go that aren’t doing anything, increasing volunteers at the school etc.

    When I showed up for the first time at Alameda High School for the first PTA meeting of the year along a few other new parents we were made to feel most unwelcome. That club was run by a small insulated group of parents, that showed little to no interest in welcoming new parents and encouraging volunteers. I was disappointed about how unprofessional the meeting was, what a waste of time the meeting was, and how detached from reality the old guard was. This is the group that got a wake up call today. Hopefully things will change for the better there and at every school on the Island that has that problem. On Bay Farm Island I find the elementary schools are doing a great job of welcoming and harnessing volunteers and parents that want to help.

    Today is a great day, where a lot of unrealistic people are starting to come down to earth and get real about dealing with costs in the school district fairly, realistically and in a forward looking manner. Crying poor, every 2-3 years is indicative of the amateurs running the school show.

    Peter cried wolf, once to often, while Newsweek was advertising how great our schools are. We can get better and we can maintain excellence without exceeding our budget. Lets hold the School District accountable and force them to close schools that cost too much and start consolidating operations. Lets pass a bond measure and build and improve the school facilities we have. I bet a dime to a donut that opponents of Measure H will support this. It wasn’t just about the money, it was about the same tired song by too many of the same tired people. Now let me celebrate the demise of Measure H, with my neighbors, and enjoy the victory.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 4, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

  87. The self-centered attitude and close minded vision of a “No” vote is astounding.

    Hundreds of volunteers were willing to donate countless hours, fighting for the basic human right of a quality public education. And the “no” voters weren’t willing to give up two lattes a month.

    As a student in AUSD, I feel absolutely betrayed by many in this community. The consequences of this vote will be felt for a very long time, and to know that 114 people stood between Alameda students and a quality education makes me absolutely sick to my stomach.

    I look at my youngest brother, Elijah, who will be a Kindergartener next year at Paden, and I am terrified for his future. What will his school experience be like? It will certainly not be as good as mine. He simply will not have some of the same opportunities that I have had in Alameda.

    I am absolutely appalled at many of the comments on this thread, and the blatant ignorance of the situation that they show. Many seem to have voted without much consideration at all, without the facts, without consideration for the children of our community. Our Governor, with seeming unconcern and lack of planning, cut every district equally. He decided that prisons deserved more money than schools.

    Those that voted no on this tax have shown the same disregard for an issue as important as our children’s future, and in my view, they are complicit in his wrongdoing.

    I am appalled. I am discusted. I am hurt. And I am terrified. Words can simply not describe it.

    Those that voted no on this

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 4, 2008 @ 5:58 pm

  88. That should say “disgusted.”

    I would say what I said to Jeffery Smith, my Math teacher, today in class.

    To those that voted “no,”

    Now what?

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 4, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

  89. Actually, I have to change what I said before.

    Absolutely I feel all of those things. But I also feel a sense of undying gratitude to those that fought tooth and nail to get this thing passed. We may not have succeeded, but these people deserve the heartfelt thanks of every member of this community. The Currid’s, the Mooney’s, the Siltanen’s, my mom (who never ceases to amaze me with the amount of work she does), Eve Pearlman, Susan Davis, Maggie Muir, Kevin Gorham, and many, many more. That is such an incomplete list, and I apologize for that. Thank you to everyone who walked a precinct, called a voter, or wrote a letter.

    Thank you so much for all you have done.

    Let’s cross our fingers for these provisional ballots.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 4, 2008 @ 6:10 pm

  90. ANT, I singled you out early as one of the more reasonable voices against H. That still stands, but with the company you are stuck with over on the no side that isn’t saying much.

    Couple things. One anecdote about somebody with phony intent doesn’t mean much. I walked precinct and you get used to people saying yes to make you leave them alone and get to know when that is happening. I had quite a lot of yes voters I thought credible, but whether they voted, I can’t say.

    On the squeeze of the middle class, sure that is true, but how many cranky no on H people do you think were really going to be pushed to the brink by $10 a month. Ultimately if you believe what you say in your paragraph about teachers deserving to be paid, you have to come to terms with the fact that there is no free lunch here.
    In that regard Brian’s post #72 trumps you in the logic department.

    By the way, thanks for holding to you opinions and principles without being an $#%hole.

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 4, 2008 @ 6:25 pm

  91. I just want to say that while all of you go on and on ranting about your hatred towards Measure H, while you complain about administrative fat and taxing the people unfairly, while you name-call and insult people working for and voting for Measure H, while you do all that today on your computers at home with a big smirk on your face because you have “overcome” the tax, our schools are devastated.

    There aren’t accurate words to describe my utter disappointment in this community, and especially in all of you.

    You were supposed to be representing the children. You were supposed to be giving a voice to those that legally cannot speak in an election. You were supposed to, for one moment in your life, not think about yourself and how this would affect you, but think about the thousands of lives you would be affecting with this decision.

    I am happy to say that yesterday was the first time I was allowed to vote, and I voted for Measure H with pride. Why? Because I remember the musical foundation I recieved with elementary school music (and I even remember some of the songs). I remember the AP exams that I passed, which allowed me to compete with kids all over the nation. I remember my school winning the Homecoming game, and how much pride exploded from the fans. I remembered walking onto my campus everyday with a sense of purpose, with a will to learn, and a reason to stay. And then I thought about all of those things being taken away, how different my public education experience would be. The choice was obvious.

    Now, high school sports will certainly be cut. Music will be cut. AP classes will be cut. JROTC will probably be cut. Schools will close down. There will most likely be one high school. And for what? To save $10 a month?

    When I read some of these responses, my heart was crushed so hard I began to cry. The selfishness and pure ignorance devastates me. You do not understand what has to be given up now.

    I look to the future with pure fear. And, thank goodness for me, I am going far away to college next year, and my parents are moving to a new state. I won’t have to suffer the consequences of a dying district, but guess what? You will. Even if you don’t have children in the school system, it will eventually catch up to you.

    I second Ian when he says that he is absolutely disgusted. The fact that my hometown won’t pass a tax that could very well save the public education of thousands of children shows where its priorities are. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Spend that saved $120 wisely, although I can’t think of anything better to do with that money than save education.

    I hope you all are happy.

    Comment by Becky Sotello — June 4, 2008 @ 6:25 pm

  92. My apologies, all hope is not lost. We still have those other votes to count. I will pray for Measure H. And I never pray.

    Comment by Becky Sotello — June 4, 2008 @ 6:44 pm

  93. Ian,

    As I posted in #85 you were just a little “1/2″ when I met you and now look at you. I keep telling your parents but I do think that the blog world should know you aren’t just a smart articulate young man but a great mentor to younger students.

    The list in #90 wouldn’t be complete without Ian Merrifeld, William Mooney, Allie, Ilya, Giuls and countless athletes and every cute little “1/2″ who walked or phoned with mom or dad. This includes teenagers who were willing to get up on a Monday morning at 5am with 1 days notice with one simple ask.

    THANK YOU 65.8%, my kids are grateful for you kindness

    Comment by Barbara M — June 4, 2008 @ 6:47 pm

  94. Mr. Coolidge,
    I cannot speak to your PTSA experience– because of my work schedule I have not been able to attend PTSA meetings this year, but I know some of the very dedicated parents who are involved and am surprised that they did not welcome you with open arms because there is so much to do and so few parents take an interest.

    But, I DARE you to find a “Belly Dancing Class” in the AHS catalog, available at the school Web site under “Departments” tab. There is one one-semester Dance class, which covers varied forms of dance.

    What I think you are confusing for a “class” is Belly Dancing Club. You can find this under the Clubs tab. It is last year’s but things have not changed that much. They have since added “Chamber Music Club” and “Drama Club” that I am aware.

    If this is your idea of “fat” in the system, you are sadly mistaken. AHS is fortunate to have a lively bunch of student run clubs– they just have to find a faculty sponsor willing to give up their lunch break to sit in the room with them, for no pay.

    Also missing from the class list– things like “ebonics” and “alternative lifestyles” although there is a class called “Current Life Issues” which covers some state required curriculum. Some other districts cover this material in a 3rd year of PE, but that would cost more, not less.

    I totally agree that the state funding inequities need to be addressed. Meanwhile, we need to support our schools because they exist today, not tomorrow. My daughter learned today that only 4 sports will have any funding next year– basketball, softball, football, and volleyball. Everything else, will be paid for by the parents.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 7:46 pm

  95. I don’t agree with ANT, Jack Richard or many others against school funding. Actually I find many of them at least intelligent (ANT you know I luv you) but I need to get them to come to the table (and bring that intelligence) to see how horrible our hand was dealt.

    I will never understand Mr. Chen or Coolidge who have students here. How many school board meetings and funding education nights have they been to? At least the people above don’t have students in school here and need to be enticed to come to help. You 2 have no excuse. You don’t come and don’t understand and sit on the sidelines and criticize. There are plenty of beer commercials making fun of people who are monday morning quarterbacks. Until you are willing to play the game shut-up. Most of what Mr. Coolidge is complaining about is part of the education code or special mandate and we must follow the law. Don’t like the law to lazy to get involved and change it, we know the type.

    Comment by Barbara M — June 4, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

  96. Kevis, you are absolutely right, my daughter told me she was taking Ballet Dancing class at school, and I congratulated her. Only later did I learn that I had misunderstood her and it was Belly Dancing class with friends as part of the club.

    But now that you have opened up that can of worms, lets talk about some of the classes we have at AHS on that course catalog link you provided.

    How about the entire shadow curriculum for non-English speaking students. We have Sheltered English 1-4, Sheltered History, Sheltered Chemistry, Sheltered Physics. It appears you don’t have to speak English to graduate from AHS, they have an entire Sheltered Program (dummied down classes) for non-English speakers.

    My niece from Europe attended AHS for a year, speaking very limited English when she arrived. She didn’t take any Sheltered courses, learned English on the run and was a straight A student to boot. Lets lose the Sheltered curriculum.

    How about Ethnic Studies, Film and Literature, Academic Strategies (how to take a test class), AVID (how to get into college class) and Career Living (how to rent an apartment class). Geez, and thats just spending a couple of minutes looking at the curriculum. What a joke. Lets cut those programs and get volunteers to lead seminars on this after school for those really interested, instead of giving credit and paying people to teach those classes.

    As for Barbara M’s comments, she may be one of the reasons there are so few volunteers at many of our schools. We do come and we see people that are fanatical in their conviction that the past is the only way, taking 2 hours to cover material that deserves 2 minutes or really needs to be discussed somewhere else and we leave, unwilling to spend another minute in the presence of these people. I can only speak of experience from AHS, but I have friends at Encinal and its the same story.

    I have written that the schools on Bay Farm Island are refreshingly different, and I am involved and do volunteer quite often there. If the school invites a culture of participation, they will get it. A school gets what it deserves. Volunteers are free, and with the high quality citizens here on the Island, it is an untapped wealth.

    Speaking of attending school board meetings and school district special sessions, how many of them are stored on-line and streamed live via the internet? This is the policy of exclusion I am referring to, the lack of innovation, the old lets put ANOTHER parcel tax on the ballot, it worked last time and the time before last. How do you argue with the old guard about that. Very simply, you defeat the lousy and unfair Measure H, and blacken their eyes. Now maybe they will get a clue. The well is dry.

    I do play the game. I voted NOOOOO on Measure H. How’s that for participation.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 4, 2008 @ 9:07 pm

  97. Until recently, I was on the fence with Measure H. However, upon viewing all of the vitriol directed at me and others on this website , I am certain that I made the right decision in voting “No”.

    Today, I spoke with someone from Greenpeace in San Francisco. We had a good conversation about the pros and cons of nuclear energy. I was pro and he was con. But he was civil and respectful, and in the end, I agreed to do more research and look at it from his anti-nuclear point-of-view.

    The lesson learned here was: “You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar.” Keep up with the name-calling and insults towards those who voted “No”, and I can assure you will get the same results in the next election, or even worse.

    Comment by James Chen — June 4, 2008 @ 9:28 pm

  98. When times are tough, you make do with less. As the Brits would say: We’ll carry on.”

    The Alameda School Board simply used a cookie cutter to punch out another parcel tax proposal. Early on, I sent the board a note stating how they can instantly add more than $250,000 to the budget – simply eliminate the senior exemption. I received no response.

    Perhaps its bad timing – everyone is being squeezed by higher fuel/food prices and making adjustments accordingly. The school board should do the same thing – cut and consolidate, make those difficult decisions.

    Comment by Joe — June 4, 2008 @ 9:39 pm

  99. Mr. Coolidge,
    It is too bad that you chose to ridicule AHS for having a “Belly Dancing Class” when you admit you knew already it is a club.

    As for the other classes you mentioned: Film and Literature is a college prep class taught by my daughter’s excellent English teacher. It is a rigorous class. Academic Strategies is a required class for those students who have identified learning disabilities, so that they can receive the assistance they need to succeed in the other classes. Note–private schools do not need to take children with learning disabilities. It is more costly to provide program tailored to their needs, but it is the law and a moral responsibility as well. With proper instruction, these students will go on to college and careers and be successful. AVID is an alternative way of presenting the core curriculum designed to get more students into college who might otherwise not think that they would be able to attend– if AVID were not a class, the same teachers would be reassigned to sections of English or math or science, because that is what they are learning in AVID. On the Sheltered classes, it is not true that one could graduate without knowing English because English is a required subject in the graduation requirements and there is also the proficiency test. I could go on and on, but the point is that these classes are useful, and fully enrolled. If there are alternative means to teach the same subjects that give the students more choices– what is wrong with that?

    It sounds as if you had a bad experience with AHS PTSA. Maybe you could assist to make the PTSA more like the Bay Farm PTA which has a great reputation. My experience of PTSA is that it is struggling to get volunteers involved so maybe you have some suggestions on good ways to welcome volunteers such as yourself and get them involved.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

  100. OOPS — I meant to say “… if AVID were not a class, the same teachers would be reassigned to sections of English or math or science, because that is what they are TEACHING in AVID.” Pressed the button too fast without rereading my sentence, sorry.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 4, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  101. >>> upon viewing all of the vitriol directed at me and others on this website , I am certain that I made the right decision

    So you base your own family-impacting decisions on internet chat board experciences? James, I don’t even see where anyone was *mean* to you. We are trying to talk to you, and you’re talking your book.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  102. Two things . . . one I regret I let a student talk me into writing an opinion column for the Journal that expressed a mildly negative view on measure H . . . and secondly, who is this Brian Rodrigues and why is he always waving the reconstitution herring and he should know that pyhrric victory deserves capitalization . . . after all, it is a eponym . . . named for the Roman General who lost an army to win a battle.

    Comment by Jeffrey R Smith — June 4, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  103. Check that out… 3 X 9:47’s… nice.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 9:52 pm

  104. Thanks Joseph C. I had to see for myself the AHS “shadow curriculum.” IMO, the “sheltered courses” are discriminatory – in a sense, creating second class students. I’m all for providing a little time in the wading pool to develop basic English skills, but not an across the board program. These kids don’t need to feel “protected” – they should be set free to thrive in the real challenge of life – assimulation at normal speed.

    Comment by Joe — June 4, 2008 @ 9:56 pm

  105. J.R. Smith: Keep sending those opinions to the op-ed at the Journal. I have your 9-21-2007 letter posted next to my PC.

    Comment by Joe — June 4, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

  106. Every dollar that we spend educating illegal immigrants is one more dollar that we can’t spend educating our own children. I am not anti-immigrant … I just don’t understand why we feel like we have to feed, clothe, and educate the world. And, I certainly don’t want to pay for it …

    Comment by Alameda Parent — June 4, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

  107. re 98

    Vitriol?

    Your errors were politely pointed out, and entrees of discussion were made to you: if that’s “vitriol” your skin is way too thin for the internet, Ace.

    I know vitriol. I’ve done my share of flaming on this site. What you got was church-social polite, nowhere within 100 miles of vitriol.

    Would you like some?

    Comment by dave — June 4, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

  108. Alameda Parent, I don’t think that was an option for the school boosters, if you know what I mean.

    Comment by Jack B — June 4, 2008 @ 10:19 pm

  109. 1. The pavlatics, kirwins, houstons and howards can take satisfaction that they probably got by by muddying the discussion enough to defeat measure H
    Comment by notadave — June 4, 2008 @ 7:49 am
    Too bad the waters were muddied; but I don’t understand how my asking questions for clarification can be seen as mudding the waters.

    Better to let the truth fly and then see where the chips lie.

    I take no satisfaction in the apparent loss of MH, too many worked too hard for too long. I wish they had had something better to work with – something with broad appeal. If you are going to ask for public to buy what’s on the menu at the poll you should ask for the public’s opinion of what goes on the menu. I believe that is where this measure failed. Now I’m afraid our heartiest volunteers are burnt – How many will be ready to do it all over again for November? Maybe with more public involvement in designing the next Measure there will be broader supply of volunteers, perhaps including our local businesses.

    #82 ANT – I think the State is too big an entity to be efficient. Even the State realizes that fact which is why the ED CODE requires Local BOE’s, & local Districts remain in control of their spending. The State knows it can’t do it as well.

    It makes a very harsh position for the locals – you get to choose how you spend the money the state supplies, (plus any money you pick up locally), but State and Feds also force lots of program and facility requirements for the locals to figure out how to pay for. And these mandated requirements are growing, both in number and individual costs, and it puts more burden on the budgets at the local school district level.

    State and Feds do offer some assistance beyond ADA payments, but the only way the locals can balance their budget is to reduce services, but they can’t touch the mandated or required services whether they are funded or not. Since the district doesn’t make money, they can only work with the other side of the equation which affects service. The facilities must still meet the ‘Field Act’, the number of teaching days is still required, labor costs are regulated by contract and law, and as more and more programs and services are mandated, it becomes harder and harder for District to cover all the bases. Basically all employees are unionized, (I think by law all workers paid with public money must be paid “prevailing rate”, so dealing with unions is far easier than dealing with so many individual contracts), but the District cannot just decide to cut pay rates for workers, it must cut the workforce, again that affects service. Does it help the district financially to have to have free or reduced cost breakfast or lunch programs? The Schools much check the medical records of each child, insure certain preventative care such as inoculations and the ongoing health concerns of each child, and be ready for every emergency. Does it help the District financially to have “Early Child Development programs (pre-school), or after school extended day care? To a certain degree schools must look after the care, or lack there of, a child receives at home. Never in history have public schools been charged with such a huge portion of the responsibility of raising society’s children. It is almost absurd. In my school years physical fitness, sexual education, (they probably called it ‘health ed to avoid the “s” word), and driver education were a big deal as to whether they should be required. Now by law the schools must involve almost every aspect of every child’s life. Public Schools – the great social equalizer. Right or wrong – it is not by the choice of the local school district, is it? Most of the “social equalization” are federal or state requirements. Can a school district using surplus property or some other means create a sustainable flow of income to help operations?

    As has been pointed out and documented ad nauseum, AUSD management costs are significantly less than local average – by a huge margin, (I think about 30%).

    So where to make the cuts that the law allows? Belly dancing, yoga, art, music, Frisbee golf? I think not. – Even if these were all part of courses, not clubs created by volunteers, these would all probably cheaper than most alternatives. Probably a lot of ‘fun’ PE I had in the 70’s was cut because of over-litigation. We got to play rugby, lacrosse and “touch” football in our gym classes, the days of ropes, rings, pommel horses and medicine balls were rare, and to my memory, hilarious. I bet most schools would prefer belly dancing to the risk of litigation. I would also bet it is easier and cheaper to find an art program teacher with volunteer helpers than it would be to have extra science or tech labs. I’d like to know how our schools could offer more, for less. Isn’t that like “sell high, buy low”? Perhaps that’s great advice, but meaningless without a plan for doing it. I have not heard a single detractor of MH offer realistic plan ideas – just ideas, not the whole plan – Where is the ‘fat’ to trim?

    For years there have been growing questions on how to use available technology to bring down the cost of education. I think that it is both possible and the likely future. But it’s too big a conversation to add to this post.

    Now there is a need for more funding for AUSD unless we want a further reduction in services. I believe that help must, and will come from many sources.

    There is real beauty in local funding – nobody from the State or Fed can take it away, or screw with it.
    We need to have some long and wide discussions on this. There are ways to get support from a wider spectrum of citizens than the way MH was written, or the way questions about it were handled..

    For some reason which I do not understand, school bonds seem to be “more palatable” than straight parcel taxes, but they still attach property tax bills, and only require 55% on ballot to pass. –Go figure. But all 6 Bay Area Bond measures passed, (Bonds must be used for facilities, including system hardware, not ‘programs’.)

    Of the 10 Bay Area school parcel taxes only four passed, and they all were higher taxes than MH – $198, $290, $$375, and Mtn View had a $127 / $1016 (depending on parcel size)

    Of the 6 that failed, only San Ramon ($166), was asking for more than MH; the rest of the failing parcel taxes were $45, $78, $88, and $96. I don’t know the story of each, but it appears it is not size that counts, at least not for passing a parcel tax..
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/04/BAMP1102HT.DTL&hw=election+returns&sn=008&sc=618

    I’m sure as a few days go by the caustic comments, and commenter’s violent mood swings of will find a neutral balance. As soon as that happens, I hope we can begin a new conversation on ways to help AUSD.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 11:02 pm

  110. Mr. Smith-

    We can talk tomorrow in class if you’d like, but I absolutely did NOT try to convince you to send in your op-ed. I said “I”m writing an opinion piece for the journal.” And you said, “what a coincidence, I’m writing one too, but against it!”

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 4, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

  111. Dave,

    We are not going to fix AUSD’s finances on the backs of the property owners of this town. We are going to fix them in Sacramento.

    The Senate President pro Tem Don Perata of the California State Senate is a former high school teacher from Alameda. We have a former Alamedan school teacher as one of the three most powerful people in the state RIGHT NOW! He controls the purse strings, so what has he done for AUSD? What did Wilma Chan do for us? What is Sandre Swanson doing for us? Close your eyes and tell me what you see. NOTHING. That’s right, we returned these politicians to office year after year and they did next to nothing for our schools.

    Go to Don’s webpage citing his accomplishments, and there as the last bullet on a long list of things he did is a fop about how he fights for public school funding. Thank god for term limits, since we don’t seem to have the sense God gave a turnip when it comes to reelecting these people. Maybe we’ll just get lucky, or maybe we’ll start directing some of that Measure H energy towards Perata and company before he leaves town.

    I’ve read a lot of comments from Measure H advocates, complaining that property owners only have to pony up 10 bucks a month. What’s the big deal?

    The big deal is that as a home owner I am already paying the school district a $206 assessment, plus the community colleges get $100 bucks plus the previous parcel taxes give the district another 189 dollars. Thats close to $500 for education without the new $120 dollar assessment. Oh, lets not forget that $300 parcel tax for the hospital that I can’t use. That is close to a thousand bucks just for Alameda’s schools and a hospital. And I haven’t even mentioned State and Federal Taxes and the pound of flesh they demand.

    So are property owners a little testy about the every 3 years a new parcel tax for the schools? Yes we are. So stop with the Latte’ jokes ( Measure H is just one Starbucks visit a month), as if the school system is giving us a free ride. This type of mocking of other people’s money isn’t getting us anywhere.

    The School District needs to demonstrate some belt tightening and not at the kids expense. Moving ahead with across the board pay raises for everyone (especially the staff) for the next 4 years while crying about how poor you are isn’t a credible demonstration of sacrifice.

    We seem to have a lot of elementary schools , some of them under 200 students, when the trend is for most districts to have fewer schools with more students in them. This saves money by reducing the amount of staff (principal and admin) required in the district. This will probably require building bigger elementary schools which will require school bonds to be passed. Once again the district doesn’t seem to be doing anything about restructuring to get financially healthy.

    So the bottomline is that I would like to see citizens organizing demonstrations, mass phone calls and visits to our democratically elected officials (and I’m not talking about The Terminator, the legislature controls the purse strings in Sacramento). Instead we get Alamedans coming out enmasse to take money out of my wallet, while letting big business, renters and the elderly skate out of this tax.

    I’d like to see restructuring of the number of schools, elimination of goofy and wasteful classes and activities, elimination of staff, a hiring and pay freeze and most of all a viable and sustainable plan to remain fiscally solvent, with a emergency rainy day fund. I would like to see all of the schools embrace volunteers instead of paying them lip service and treating parents like foreign antibodies. I would like the district to start enforcing residency rules to reduce the overcrowding of classrooms by expelling students that do not reside on the island. These are all serious measures that deserve our support.

    After doing all of the above, only then would I be willing to open my wallet to the district with the understanding that my money is being put to good use. Right now, too many of us think that school parent’s energies are being misdirected and our funds are not being used sparingly. Hold our elected officials accountable, and wonderful things will start to happen.

    Comment by Joseph Coolidge — June 5, 2008 @ 1:18 am

  112. I like it when people post and use their real names. So thank you Joseph #33 for having the guts to put yourself out there, regardless whether I agree with your position. You are on the right track when you look forward toward solutions, as an alternative to criticizing people who spent a lot of time working on something you didn’t agree with.

    Comment by Mike Rich — June 5, 2008 @ 1:57 am

  113. #103 then #111. I am going to say nothing…

    Comment by Barbara M — June 5, 2008 @ 6:19 am

  114. JC-

    I wish we could fix things in Sac – but how? What in our power are we not doing? I agree about our state reps – a huge disappointment for us in Alameda, but we are such a small, tiny part of the state voters that I am at a loss for how we can have an affect.

    I like that AUSD has some classes that directly help with post-HS grad life. When I was in school we did not have classes on how to protect / invest money, or how to raise children, or how to effectively participate in local government. I think these should be part of the basic requirements…

    I’ve got to get to work, but let’s continue to think of options.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 5, 2008 @ 6:25 am

  115. BTW – My Wife is one of those uncounted ‘yes’ votes – she dropped off her mail-in ballot at the polls.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 5, 2008 @ 6:37 am

  116. I apologize for my rant earlier. I’m just disappointed in where the priorities of this town are.

    I am surprised by the comments about sheltered classes. These people obviously do not understand how important these classes are. My mom happens to be a Sheltered English teacher, and she recieves brand new students on a daily basis, from all over the world. These kids have come here to make something of themselves in our country, to help our economy and help us. How can we deny these newcomers an education, the foundation of civil rights in America?

    I will give you an example. Two years ago, a Chinese boy came directly from China to our school, not knowing a word of English, and now he is in AP English 4, going off to UC Davis, and wants to become a biologist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds a cure for AIDS or something. He is just one of many success stories.

    I feel like some of you try to give an opinion about something that you know nothing of. I happen to know a lot about sheltered classes, and I assure you, teaching in regular classes would be impossible without them.

    When speaking of these “goofy and wasteful classes”, I can again assure you that Encinal has none of those. Perhaps you mean Alameda, but I can tell you with confidence that Encinal has nothing but the bare minimum.

    Elimination of staff? Where? They can’t cut any at the district, there would be nothing to cut. They can’t cut teachers, then we would have overcrowding. So please specify what you mean when you say pay cuts.

    Pay freeze? Please do not tell me you mean for teachers. We know their salary, and how unfair it is.

    Anyway, I’ve decided not to become sucked into this blog again, it causes nothing but frustration for me. Since you all don’t want a tax that would bring in $4.3+ to schools, please come up with some other way and let’s save our schools. It’s the least we can do for these students.

    Comment by Becky Sotello — June 5, 2008 @ 6:37 am

  117. Yes . . . you walked right into my trap . . . never could resist the bait of Gorgonzola . . . exactly! . . . Pyhrric was an illegal alien living in Southern Italy . . . he was fighting to maintain his toe-hold near Crotone . . . a part of magna-Grecia . . . a story of what happens when borders are not hardened . . .his story is not unlike the story of the students we allegedly teach . . . see you at lunch . . . Jeffo

    Comment by Jeffrey R Smith — June 5, 2008 @ 6:56 am

  118. I would like to better understand what the Sheltered Curriculum entails, and its resulting estimated administrative overhead compared to simply adding more sections of existing classes. Beyond the financial implications (if there are in fact any), I have a philosophical issue with the concept of sheltered curriculum- if students’ insufficient command of English is hampering their abilities to learn Physics and History, shouldnt’ the solution be to teach them English first so that they can succeed in English, not customize the curriculum to perpetuate a social Babel? (I know it’s dangerous to make biblical references within 50 feet of public education, but asking citizens to behave altruistically for a greater good is entirely moralistic and even the fanatical secularists admit, when they allow the light of logic and history to shine, that today’s social responsibility is grounded in religious tenets).

    The melting pot approach seemed to work for immigrants 100 years ago, and I don’t hear today’s non-native speakers requesting exemption from English based on genetic disadvantage (as well they should not).

    In terms of priorities, however, when push comes to shove I sincerely hope the district opts to keep the AP classes.

    Comment by Matt Reid — June 5, 2008 @ 8:46 am

  119. “I will give you an example. Two years ago, a Chinese boy came directly from China to our school, not knowing a word of English, and now he is in AP English 4, going off to UC Davis, and wants to become a biologist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds a cure for AIDS or something. He is just one of many success stories.”

    That is just great … one more immigrant that I paid to educate and tens of thousands of dollars that didn’t go to white, black, mexican, asian etc. kids that were already here.

    Comment by Alameda Parent — June 5, 2008 @ 10:08 am

  120. Lauren, it is funny how minorities always drop the race card and immigrants always bring up the fact the we were all immigrants at one time. However, my problem isn’t with the race of the immigrant. Also, my ancestors didn’t receive free food, a free education, or free health care when they landed upon these shores. Require all immigrants to have the means to support themselves when they arrive and I will not complain. I am simply tired of feeding, clothing, housing, and educating the rest of the world on my dime.

    From the last thread some commented:

    “I will give you an example. Two years ago, a Chinese boy came directly from China to our school, not knowing a word of English, and now he is in AP English 4, going off to UC Davis, and wants to become a biologist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds a cure for AIDS or something. He is just one of many success stories.”

    That is just great … a success story for him. However, that is just one more immigrant that I paid to educate and tens of thousands of dollars that didn’t go to white, black, mexican, asian etc. kids that were already here. And, for every one that comes and makes something of their life, at least 10 end up being a burden on the system. We just can’t afford to host anyone that wants to come anymore … it isn’t racist, it is simply fiscally irresponsible and the current budget crises directly results therefrom.

    Comment by Alameda Parent — June 5, 2008 @ 10:16 am

  121. “You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar.”

    To Pro-Measure H people: Keep up with the name-calling and insults towards those who voted “No”, and I can assure you will get the same results in the next election, or even worse. I and othere like me only have to find one person to vote “No” for every two “Yes” votes you need. Just keep that in mind for the next time.

    Comment by James Chen — June 5, 2008 @ 10:49 am

  122. Who has insulted you, James? Your obtuseness calls for it, and I’m preparing some, but please do cite where it’s come from so far. Which post?

    Comment by dave — June 5, 2008 @ 10:53 am

  123. David Kirwin,

    I have suggested previously that if all of the school districts in the state that were impacted by base closures formed a coalition and that the voters in those districts voted as a block it would have an impact in Sacramento. Often, there are propositions and races for statewide office where a hundred thousand votes can swing the outcome. Once a coalition is formed it would provide the necessary clout to get things changed. Someone who has the time and inclination should organize such a coalition. If my child were enrolled in AUSD I would take take the lead in such an effort.

    Comment by Michael Rich — June 5, 2008 @ 11:21 am

  124. 105. The idea that sheltered classes are discriminatory is ridiculous. If you think they are a waste of time you can argue that, but discriminatory?

    It’s great that some of you have anecdotes about kids who came here with limited English skills who plunged right in and thrived, but across the board that is not the case. Another factor is that if you mainstream these second language kids, it’s makes it harder to teach a class with mixed skills, so the kids who speak English as first language suffer.

    I am not an expert, but my spouse teaches her subject in a sheltered version at AHS. If anything, it makes her job harder in terms of having to generate multiple versions of her curriculum, but you folks don’t pay her more for those additional hours.

    There are also no extra classes for these kids come to think of it. If 100 kids make three classrooms, there is no added cost if 35 of them are put in a class together because they are second language kids. It’s still three classes. Like I said, the burden is on the teachers and there is no added cost to you.

    So I guess to make you guys happy we could screen out and refuse to educate anybody without proficient English skill, and I guess that means Joe C.’s niece would have been shipped out before she had a chance to integrate.

    Comment by markirons — June 5, 2008 @ 11:26 am

  125. Alameda Parent;
    You say this as if somehow kicking out the immigrants from Alameda schools would magically fix all of AUSD’s budget problems? If you truly believe that then you are just as uninformed as Mr. Chen.

    While you didn’t specify exactly what your position on MH was, are you implying that we screw over the majority of “legal” students in the district, just so that the illegal few don’t benefit?

    Comment by MarkD — June 5, 2008 @ 12:57 pm

  126. I’m new to this conversation, but I too am disappointed that MH was defeated.

    It seems that the old model of financing public school education is flawed and we should be looking at creative ways to finance public school education. Why not take a page out of the “charter school” book and create a hybrid of public-charter schools, taking the best of what charter schools offer and the best of what public schools offer and convert our public school system to something that works for us. It would require us to re-write the rules — but this is probably the best time to consider alternatives.

    We can charge tuition instead of a tax and require all parents to pay their fair share of the costs to run a school.

    I know “charter school” is a bad word for some, but perhaps we can use it to our benefit to solve this crisis!

    Comment by Karen Bey — June 5, 2008 @ 7:06 pm

  127. Re #128 That’s thinking outside the box, Karen!! I like it.

    Rita Nesel

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 5, 2008 @ 8:40 pm

  128. Jeez – Ya can’t charge tuition for public schools.

    Post#128 isn’t thinking outside the box – it is outside the law.

    Comment by D Kirwin — June 5, 2008 @ 9:05 pm

  129. #125 Mike – thanks for your post – I almost missed it. I too think it would be a great idea for the BOE and or AUSD reps to communicate with all the other school districts that are “under funded” because of military base closures. This is not the first time it has been suggested. I believe that was one of the things Rob S. said at a past BOE mtg that they were looking into. Unfortunately, not that many bases have been closed. Maybe this is fortunate, especially if you live or work in a community with a military base. Bases employ a lot of civilians too, ya know? My research showed that since the days of George the 1st, about 24 military bases have been closed in CA. – While that is a significant number for the % of bases, it would seem to only affect 24 of over 1,000 school districts. How much clout does that really carry?

    On the other hand if all 24 school districts organized themselves as a single voice it would be more effective than ours alone. It would be adding a tool to use to expedite the action the Gov has said they are doing to balance educational funding throughout the state.

    Also at the LWV meeting where Wilma Chan and Loni Hancock were both present, Ms Hancock said that there have been bills passed that help to balance the inequity current ADA funding. I have not been able to follow through with verification.

    Perhaps someone could follow up on that.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 5, 2008 @ 9:23 pm

  130. #130, wow David you and I actually had the same exact thought, is it a special moon configuration or some weird thing. Maybe the idea that children can’t go to school unless they can come up with the cash is so not what “public education” is about. I know Karen Bey (I think I know you do I) was trying to think outside the box and that is great we need more of it. You just need to think of ideas that are free…

    Comment by Barbara M — June 5, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

  131. Not to repeat myself, but Barbara when you talk about ideas that are free, do you include such things as discussing how a tax measure should be created with the people you want to pass it? (Before it is written and sent to the county for ballot submission.)

    Comment by David kirwin — June 5, 2008 @ 10:40 pm

  132. I thought we already belonged to something called “Association of Low Wealth School districts.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 5, 2008 @ 11:15 pm

  133. http://www.associationoflowwealthschools.org/index.php

    Does anyone know if these ‘equalization funds’ were included when MH was comparing AUSD’s ADA money?

    …if not…

    How does AUSD’s actual total per pupil funding compare when ALL non-local funds received are included?

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 6, 2008 @ 6:15 am

  134. The problem with free is ….. you get what you pay for. Think of it like a health co-pay. The majority of our children’s education will be paid, but parents will be required to make a co-payment to close the gap between monies received from the state and actual costs to run our schools.

    Comment by Karen Bey — June 6, 2008 @ 7:36 am

  135. 136:

    That is the point of H – education is free – ok let’s take the fed dollars – but hey let’s make sure Alameda is above and beyond what the state/fed provides – and let’s, as a community, increase funding to make our schools the best they can be and Alameda one of the most disirable places to live.

    H is a quick fix, however; there needs to be a more long term fix which will require local taxing.

    Comment by ChrisO — June 6, 2008 @ 8:58 am

  136. Ok – we are all (most of us) hoping that H still has a chance… can we begin (all of us Pro H/Against H) a plan B?

    Not to hijack this thread – can someone start a new thread on what we need to do for a plan B?

    For instance – The current BOE budget plan that was voted ‘Yes’ on by all on the board except Mike M (thank you Mike for voting against it) should be revised in accordance with the Gov’s May revise. It needs to be re-voted on otherwise it is not acceptable as it currently stands. Also – I hear the May revise is a shell game – for instance no cost of living increase – but did the BOE budget provide for this? If not – then let’s take that out and compare apples to apples.

    Let’s please start a new thread and let’s band together with all the energy posted here and build a plan B.

    Plan B (Worse case scenario)
    Force new BOE budget/bond measures?

    Comment by ChrisO — June 6, 2008 @ 9:11 am

  137. The Board of Education is required to pass the 08/09 budget by June 30. In building the budget the County Office of Education establishes the “assumptions” the school district can use for building their budget. At this time the County Office still has not decided how much of the May Revise school districts can use in their assumptions.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2008 @ 9:31 am

  138. ChrisO, I’m looking forward to looking at a Plan B as a long-term fix too.

    Comment by Jack B — June 6, 2008 @ 10:03 am

  139. I have created a new thread on Alamedans.com where folks can put their thoughts and ideas about a “Plan B” for AUSD.

    You can access it from the main page of Alamedans or through the hyperlink on the AUSD Resources page.

    Comment by Lauren Do — June 6, 2008 @ 10:16 am

  140. Yes 10905 66.65
    No 5456 33.35

    Man soo close!!!

    Comment by ChrisO — June 6, 2008 @ 4:04 pm

  141. Looks like about 10-15 more votes will get it to the magic amount

    Comment by notadave — June 6, 2008 @ 4:15 pm

  142. I would expect Eve Perlman to have some type of post on the remaining provisionals that will be counted next week.

    We can now WIN this. Just need the same rate for provisionals and we cross the magical 66.67 percent.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2008 @ 4:36 pm

  143. Provisional Voting
    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_provisional.htm

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 6, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

  144. According to the ROV, there are 6500 provisional ballots and a few absentee ballots still to count. Assuming that 5000 of the provisionals pass muster and that Alameda’s percentage of the county wide vote remains at about 8%, that means that there would be about 400 Alameda votes still to be counted. If it runs 70% in favor (which is about what the absentee count has been), then Measure H will pass by 33 votes.

    Comment by pagebarnes — June 6, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

  145. I have a question that perhaps someone can answer. It has been said that if a parent works in Alameda, his or her children may attend Alameda public schools even if they live in another city. Does that mean that any employment in Alameda, even a part-time job at Burger King, would permit someone’s entire family to attend our public schools? What would happen if the employee then took a job outside of Alameda? Would the children then have to leave Alameda public schools?

    The problem that has to be solved is that there are endless State mandates for public schools and limited State funding to meet those demands. Regardless of the outcome of H, we will be on an endless up hill walk on the down escalator until there is educational finance reform in Sacramento. Remember when the lottery was supposed to save our public schools?
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DE103FF937A35753C1A96E948260

    I campaigned against that one too as I thought that it was no way to fund public schools. (I remember a young mother really getting angry with me for not supporting the public schools because of that opposition.)

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 6, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

  146. RE: 147

    It is my understanding that AUSD gets more money if more kids go to school here.

    Comment by ChrisO — June 6, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

  147. 147. I know a Piedmont teacher who gets to have her kids in school there even though she lives in Oakland.

    My understanding is that if you work at AUSD you can put your child in school here, but last I heard that only extended to grade 5, and most important for DK, you can’t pick Franklin but must go where there is space. Mike McMahon or another board member can hopefully verify.

    I never heard Alameda schools were a perk of working at Wind River or Micky D’s.

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 6, 2008 @ 5:51 pm

  148. 143
    Assuming there are no no votes.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 6, 2008 @ 7:50 pm

  149. Where is the parcel tax exit strategy? Won’t both the current and the new parcel tax measures sunset in 2012?

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 6, 2008 @ 8:51 pm

  150. There is legislation that explains how students can attend a school district beside the one where their parents live. It commonly referred to as the Allen Bill. I have a document that expains the details of the bill. To avoid the spam filter I am breaking up the URL:

    mikemcmahon.info/AllenBill.pdf

    Paste it into URL line.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

  151. As for the parcel tax exit strategy, that is a high quality problem I would love to work on. I will get started the moment Measure H is certified as passing.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 6, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

  152. Thank’s Mike, I’m sure you will make it a ‘public’ effort.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 6, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

  153. Part of this week’s newsletter from Bobby’s new Boy Scout Troop (Troop #73) contained the following quote:

    “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

    The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.” -Theodore Roosevelt

    Ya gotts luv the BSA for their well-rounded values. This was a big reminder for me as to what is important, and who deserves thanks.

    With this quote in mind, I wish to thank those members of KASE, Franklin parents and others, who made the decision, gave generously of their time, effort, and when needed gave of their bank accounts, to provide the AUSD BOE a measure to put on the ballot in time for last week’s election.

    Teddy was correct as to where merit and kudos belong.

    Win or lose, this ballot measure would not have happened without them, for that I offer my respect and deep gratitude. That element of their dedication should not be lost on anyone, no matter how they feel about Measure H.

    For myself, as a critic of the way Measure H was put together and worded; of the way the “doer of good deeds could have done better” – I expect and I hope that I did not lose votes for Measure H. I feel my effort will also be a community benefit as we go forward with a commitment to improve openness and participation in the next Measure to support our schools as Measures A & H retire. Hopefully with broad input we can design a long term solution that benefits all our students, with support from all sectors of community; student families, non-student families, businesses, and owners of all types of property.

    I hope that the final outcome of “H” will be as Tony Daysog first projected shortly after midnight of Election Day. While it appears “H” will squeak thru, we will likely have to wait until at least June 23 for a final approval of results.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 9, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

  154. If we have to start over, I would like to see a measure that takes small business owners’ concerns into account. Maybe a lower amount per square foot but no cap on square footage… something that they help devise so that we can get support from the whole community.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 9, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  155. [...] While it is fresh in everyone’s (both pro and con) mind,  I would like to capture the community’s best thinking (hence the white hat reference) in regards to Alameda Nay Tiff comment on June 6 comment on Blogging Bayport’s Results …. Depressing : [...]

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