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May 28, 2008

Taught to the tune of a hickory stick

Filed under: Alameda, School — Tags: , , — Lauren Do @ 7:06 am

Election day, for the June cycle, is fast approaching and everyone is making their final push to jockey their position on varying topics.  Of course in Alameda, our big one is Measure H.  Last Friday’s Journal had two notable commentaries on the subject, but notable for very different things.   First off, Jeffrey R. Smith, who has clearly taken criticism of himself as the “worst teacher at Encinal” to heart, so much so that he included it completely out of context as a throwaway line in the article.   The gist of the article is more of the same we generally see from Mr. Smith, administration services aren’t worth paying for.  I can do it alone, which means that other teachers can do the same.   And so on and so forth.   Here’s the thing, he could have said that in about 200 words less than what he submitted to the Journal, what kept running through my mind while reading his commentary was that this had to be the written word version of Charlie Brown’s teacher.  

It is odd that Mr. Smith has pinpointed certain things as being redundant and unnecessary simply because they are already mandated from the state.   The logic, I suppose, is that we don’t need no stinkin’ administration to act as a middle man between delivery to our classroom doors and then from our classroom directly to the state.   He uses the example of standardized testing and curriculum development as two departments within AUSD that are unnecessarily replicated by the school district.   Here’s the thing, while Mr. Smith would be perfectly happy getting a fat FedEx packet in the mail every time he needs to administer a standardized test, complete with return postage back to the state, I wonder who he thinks compiles and combined the information from hundreds of other teachers and classrooms like his own in the Alameda School District.   Does he suppose that the assessment office simply dumps thousands of those bubbled-in forms on the state assessment office and says, “Have at it!”    If staff at the local level isn’t available to do that sort of job, then there will need to be staff at the state level to do that sort of job, to sort through the piles and piles of returned FedEx packages from the different schools around the state from each individual teacher.   Doesn’t sound very efficient to me.

Some other questions that I had after reading Mr. Smith’s editorial:

  • Who provides the discipline?  While Mr. Smith wants to be a granted a “strong-arm poised to extricate troublemakers” would that be within the classroom itself, doled out by each individual teacher, or would it be done by an administrator?  While clearly, as we have seen from the recent suspension reports, there is a differing level of discipline methods from school to school, would we be better served by having those discipline methods differ from classroom to classroom?
  • What about all the other services provided to students?   Unfortunately school is a lot more than what happens in the classroom itself.   It often acts as a safety net for students in less fortunate circumstances.   Kids that come to school hungry and need subsidized lunches.   Kids that come from abusive homes.  Kids that may need help just getting to school every morning because they don’t have a stable home.  Is Mr. Smith proposing that each individual teacher, each classroom will be responsible for that as well?
  • What about the kids who need help to reach their full potential, using career and college counselors to help guide them through the college admissions process that their parents simply can’t help out with.   Is Mr. Smith and his already overworked teacher colleagues willing to take that on as well in order to cut out more bureaucracy and administration services that exist outside the classroom?

It appears that Mr. Smith has a lot of critiques and criticisms without providing a whole lot of globally applicable alternatives.   Other than proposing that money be funnelled directly to the individual classrooms and to let each teacher decide what they want to do with the money.  But as Mr. Smith well knows, or I would hope that he would know, is that schools provide a whole heck of a lot more than what goes on in the four walls of a classroom.   Beyond simply pontificating in an op-ed, I would challenge Mr. Smith to come up with a solid plan for implementing his vision. 

The next notable commentary was from Ian Merrifield who wrote very eloquently about his reflections on why passing this parcel tax is important.  And will, more notably, be voting for the very first time!   If you have not read Ian M.’s commentary, it is a direct valdidation of why funding our schools is worth it.   If AUSD can churn out even one more future leaders like young Ian, then it is well worth your $120 per year.

174 Comments »

  1. “First off, Jeffrey R. Smith, who has clearly taken criticism of himself as the “worst teacher at Encinal” to heart, so much so that he included it completely out of context as a throwaway line in the article. The gist of the article is more of the same we generally see from Mr. Smith, administration services aren’t worth paying for.”

    Why does Lauren Do start every discussion of a position she disagrees with with a character assassination and a warped summary? Is it because once she’s marked the target it’s easy for the foot soldiers to attack? This targeted flogging of select individuals has got to be transparent enough by now.

    I don’t know Mr. Smith, but the issues he raises are of interest to me. Any administration has redundancies that should be scrutinized, especially in time of crisis (see letter on related topic on alamedadailynews today). J. Smith mentioned unnecessarily big payroll staff in a previous article, and I happen to have noticed the same. I’m sure there’s truth to be heard from both sides. Unfortunately, floggers like Lauren Do have made it a goal to effectively blast any middle ground where sides can meet. To what end, Lauren?

    I call this thread “Blogging to the tune of a hickory stick.”

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 9:48 am

  2. A few questions for you, AD:

    1. What is the middle ground you would like to discuss?

    2. What was it that Mr. Smith actually proposed that we discuss on this “middle ground,” to me it was simply a list of grievances with no solution except that there are redunancies that he did not adequately address.

    Simply because one cannot see the immediate benefit of something like a Human Resources Department (as referenced in Mr. Smith’s last article), after all there is no product that they deliever, does not mean that it is not meaningful or that their jobs are redundant and unnecessary.

    And as for how I present people and their very public arguments, please note that I was not the one who called Mr. Smith the “worst teacher at Encinal” and if my summary/opinion was not how you would describe Mr. Smith’s overall thesis, it is certainly your opinion that you have every right to share. But then again, I have every right to distill his argument how I have read it as well.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 10:03 am

  3. So do Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. Suit yourself.

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 10:12 am

  4. And so does Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. And so does Don Roberts and Pat Bail. And so does Joe Schmoe and Jane Anybody.

    So no answers to questions one and two? And while you’re contemplating answers to questions, this one has been left hanging as well.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 10:19 am

  5. Ani, Where is the character assassination? Where is she attacking or being mean to Mr. Smith on a personal level?

    Comment by John Knox White — May 28, 2008 @ 10:31 am

  6. Don’t be naive. The middle ground was obliterated by you this morning. Now it’s “Are you with Jeffrey Smith or against him?”

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 10:32 am

  7. I didn’t realize that by critiquing someone else’s critique that I had engaged in something as henious as “obliterating” all hopes of a middle ground.

    Using that logic, ANY critique of ANY publically stated opinion has created a hostile environment to healthy discussion and debate on your much touted “middle ground.”

    I’m not precisely sure how that aligns with your very public criticisms on a variety of political topics.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 10:49 am

  8. I didn’t see anything particularly cutting in Lauren’s analysis of Mr. Smith, whose ideas have been expressed in op-eds at least three times in the past few years. It’s completely fair to take a critical look at his contentions. Many people who don’t have any interaction with the schools will read what he writes and assume it’s valid because he’s a teacher. I’ve been somewhat involved with my child’s elementary school and have come away with the distinct impression that the district administration is already bare bones. There are many issues that schools have to deal with simply because they have custody of our children for more than six hours a day…behavior issues, varying learning styles etc. Not to mention pressure from above to leave no child behind, improve test scores, comply with state changes in curricula and cope with the community’s expectations that kids not only learn and behave while in and around campus, but actually exit a public school with some useful skills in today’s world. Our schools regularly implement new curricula or adjust to new materials or requirements (most recently at the elementary level these include science and community building/anti-bullying). This doesn’t just happen. All the economic conservatives out there would never run a business without management. Why would you expect a school district to be different?

    Comment by Jan G — May 28, 2008 @ 10:53 am

  9. Hi Ani,

    On the “unnecessarily big payroll staff” you mention in #1, AUSD actually spends less on administration than most other districts in Alameda County.

    In 2006-’07, AUSD spent $369 per student on administrative functions versus an average of $536 for other Alameda County school districts. In fact, AUSD ranks near the bottom in terms of administrative spending, with just four districts spending less (out of 17 in the county).

    I know this rumor — that AUSD wastes it money on administrative fat – has been going around and around on the Island. But the numbers tell a much different story.

    Comment by Susan Davis — May 28, 2008 @ 10:55 am

  10. A question for you, flogmistress: A people who choose to post anonymously or using just there initials (a right you’ve defended yourself previously) at risk of being identified when it becomes convenient for you to do so? (Reference “So no answers to questions one and two? And while you’re contemplating answers to questions, this one has been left hanging as well” and “I’m not precisely sure how that aligns with your very public criticisms on a variety of political topics” above)

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 11:08 am

  11. Correction: ARE people who choose to post anonymously or using just THEIR initials…

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 11:10 am

  12. Cat Fight!

    Pass the popcorn

    Comment by Randy Newman — May 28, 2008 @ 11:16 am

  13. Hello all.

    Mr. Smith and I actually coordinated our articles, so that they would be published at the same time. He’s my statistics teacher, and we’ve actually had many an argument about this very issue.

    I agree with Mr. Smith that there may be ways in which the District could be more efficient, but not nearly to the extent that he suggests.

    However, there is an argument that I made in my piece that I think trumps the “cut adminstrative fat” strategy.

    As Susan Davis said above, our district spends $369 per student on adminstration (that includes District adminstrators and all school principals.)

    If we multiply that number by 9500 (the approximate number of students in the district) you get about $3.5 million dollars. Meaning that if we were to cut EVERTYTHING, all adminstrators, and go to this utopian dream of one-room school houses, we STILL DON’T MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. (Not to mention the many many laws that would be broken.) We still don’t have the money to put every team back on the fields or every elementary student in a music class.

    I agree that we need to iron out some kinks in the district office. But we can’t give the engine a tune up if the wheels fall off.

    (P.s. Thank you Lauren, for the praise, but be thankful that our schools are producing many great leaders. As I said at the end of my article, I think that the one positive of all of this is that it’s giving our students some real world knowledge of leadership in the community and giving many students a real opportunity to contribute.)

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 28, 2008 @ 11:32 am

  14. AD: Unlike some people, I don’t out people or send other people subpoenas to reveal anonymous posters’ information for court cases. If you will notice, I have only referenced you as “AD”, if other posters glean who you are based on your initials alone, that is the wisdom of their deductive abilities and not because I have “outed” you.

    I did not acknowledge whether the commenter, in this case JKW, was right in deducing that you were who he assumed you were. If you notice other people have made broad assumptions of who people with certain avatars are based on their arguments alone. I was simply pointing out that was a question that you had left unanswered, whether the attribution to a particular person was correct or not, it’s not for me to say. But you did make a very public statement about what someone else said and when they asked you to clarify, you did not.

    You, as AD, have made some very public critiques about other people’s statements and political issues (eg. my posts, the theatre project, and the business associations.

    So again, my question stands as how you can align what seems to be your argument that any critique equals creating a hostile environment for public dicussion when you have engaged in much public criticism yourself, as referenced in the links above.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 11:35 am

  15. So, publishing one’s own take on a provocative opinion piece published in a local newspaper constitutes “character assassination,” but calling people names like “flogmistress” is an acceptable means to the warm, fuzzy end of finding “middle ground where sides can meet”? Curious.

    As far as I can tell, the closest thing to a personal attack on Mr. Smith in the post above was a dig at his writing style…and if one is going to publish one’s writing in a newspaper, I think it’s perfectly fair to expect that kind of criticism.

    Comment by Michael Krueger — May 28, 2008 @ 11:41 am

  16. Re: Character assasination: A little dissection exercise (copy in brackets mine):

    First off, Jeffrey R. Smith, who has “clearly taken criticism of himself as the ‘worst teacher at Encinal’” [though external to the issues at hand, it's fitting we should highlight someone's negative assessment of R. Smith here] to heart, so much so that he included it “completely out of context as a throwaway line” [this guy clearly is not as good of a writer as he thinks] in the article. The gist of the article is “more of the same” [nothing new worth listening to] we generally see from Mr. Smith, “administration services aren’t worth paying for” [even though he didn't imply such nonsense at all and even though I am later going to give a cursory discussion of some specifics, why not set the thesis right here that his proposal is basically ludicrous] . “I can do it alone, which means that other teachers can do the same.” [It may be worth asking some questions of him here, but in a better world. In this one, we discredit first, and ask questions later.] “And so on and so forth.” [more bla-bla-bla, do you really wanna know about it?] Here’s the thing, he could have said that in about 200 words less than what he submitted to the Journal, what kept running through my mind while reading his commentary was that this had to be the “written word version of Charlie Brown’s teacher” [From urban dictionary; Any speech that has been slurred from drunkenness, distorted by lousy loudspeakers, or just rendered incomprehensible by other means. Refers to the "whaa-whaa-whaa" trombone effect from old Peanuts TV specials, indicating when an adult was speaking.]

    Is that good enough?

    Re: “outing” people. The backpedaling was skillful; an apology would have been appreciated.

    Re: WWDRWWLDB. I’m merely holding a mirror to you. If you don’t like what you see, change.

    Comment by AD — May 28, 2008 @ 12:40 pm

  17. No apology necessary as it has never been my intent to out anyone publically and I never have. Your insistance on making a big deal out of it has only confirmed people’s suspicions and validated their deductions.

    As to your critique of my critique of Mr. Smith’s critique, is this your “obliteration” of the middle ground, or is this something else? Just so we’re all clear about it. Because you can read into what I wrote more than what I actually wrote, but then that would be your assessment, your distillation of my opinion, so to speak.

    Oh, and I did pose further clarifying questions based on Mr. Smith’s op-ed, but that would require reading more than just the first paragraph.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

  18. AD’s analysis is pretty much how I read Lauren’s post too, but I’m ok with it. It’s clear to anyone who visits this blog that it begins w/ Lauren’s opinion and then the rest of the world is free to counter w/ their own opinions and, hopefully in the process, arm us all w/ some facts. Many will agree w/ Lauren. Others (such as myself) will often disagree. This works to a net positive for Alameda because it brings the issues up front. The lurkers can make up their own minds.

    Funny… I didn’t even guess that AD might be Lauren, even as I was defending a ghost appearance from Roberto. Hi Ani, if it’s indeed you.

    Regarding JKW and the megaplex… I in fact do recall John taking a neutral position on that. Can’t remember if from a blog comment or in person. WordPress’ search function SUCKS! I was always surprised by this stance but, politically speaking… rather wise.

    Comment by Jack B — May 28, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

  19. oops…. Funny… I didn’t even guess that AD might be Ani (obviously)…

    sorry for the fat fingers.

    Comment by Jack B — May 28, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

  20. I think this “discussion” is actually giving all too much credibility to Mr. Smith’s proposals, which as Brian seemed to suggest may have been made more to inflame than to inform.

    I can just see Mr. Smith now, calculating his own pay check, making sure all the taxes are paid, paying all the electricity bills and other bills, ordering books, sending out notices to parents, printing out all the report cards, complying with all state regulations each with its own set of paperwork, etc. etc.

    Comment by notadave — May 28, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

  21. Apologies, AD, for using what I thought was your name. I saw it in another post and assumed it was OK.

    Comment by Susan Davis — May 28, 2008 @ 1:09 pm

  22. AD is for “Attack Diva”?

    Comment by "Indy" — May 28, 2008 @ 1:09 pm

  23. I thought AD was Alameda Don, aka David Howard in drag … ;-)

    Comment by alameda — May 28, 2008 @ 1:29 pm

  24. What happened to all the love that was here yesterday?()

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 28, 2008 @ 2:16 pm

  25. Oh my! The owner/author of this blog should not be trusted. She could have taken the high road and apologized to AD for linking her identity to JKW’s post. Instead, she defendend her position by engaging in spin, which tells her readers that she would indeed do it again.

    I’ll send a little loving advice: Proceed with caution, as you might be the next victim.

    Comment by tell all — May 28, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

  26. Sigh…

    If you feel as though your “identity” might be exposed by me, here’s a tip: don’t post a comment. If you can’t help yourself, here’s another tip: don’t use your real initials allowing other people to guess at who you are. If you lack creativity and can’t come up with a better avatar, try this tool to come up with something special.

    My new name is: Apathetic Deb Teach.

    Comment by Lauren Do — May 28, 2008 @ 3:28 pm

  27. 19. my recollection was a neutral position from John, but to me there is a difference between that and “doesn’t care one way or the other”. I’m pretty sure JKW wasn’t picking nits there but was pointing out he wouldn’t have used such loose language which does have an implication beyond mere neutrality, that being total indifference.

    Comment by "Indy" — May 28, 2008 @ 3:51 pm

  28. I’ll go along w/ that Indy… I don’t presume to think he didn’t care.

    Comment by Jack B — May 28, 2008 @ 4:11 pm

  29. Did I miss out on the part where this blog became some official, or branch of some official news entity, and should therefore be held up to the highest journalistic integrity? If you don’t agree with something some writes on their own blog, do what I do and roll your eyes. If you decided to comment, as I also do, don’t assume that for some reason unknown to me, you are owed any sort of explanation.

    Comment by MarkD — May 28, 2008 @ 7:56 pm

  30. I have given up blog posting but since so many people called me today to see what I thought of this I feel a bit compelled to make a comment.

    As many of you remember it was right here that I made the comment about Jeff Smith.
    Brian Rodriguez may be one of the finest educators I have ever have met but, he and I disagree on this issue in so many ways.

    1. There is no doubt that Jeff Smith writes with a very sarcastic tone. I also tend to be a sarcastic person so it is not lost on me. However when you are writing for a newspaper, many people will take it at face value and it can be very damaging.
    2. Mr. Smith is notorious for taking things out of context and cares nothing for the actual facts on the other side. Example, I highly doubt he thinks a district could run with no one in charge at all. Yet putting that out there, with the words coming from a teacher, gives it substance in a world of “headline news” Obviously there is too much bureaucracy but AUSD didn’t create the system and it must abide by the law. He most certainly implied that the problem was more excessive here than in other areas.
    3. He loves to point out problems but never seems to want to be part of a productive answer. It is easy to be the person that points the finger but trying to be part of the answer takes intelligence and creativity. There are tons of fine teachers and parents working a ridiculous amount of hours trying to change this system with the positive energy that creates positive education. When Mr. Smith comes to the table with the desire to pull together instead of tear apart I will amend my statement. This should be done in an open public manner where he dares to get a response not an op/ed piece. As I see him at many meetings I will remain hopeful. No one denies he is intelligent and I am sure he could be part of the answer instead of deepening the problem.
    4. As far as educating goes, my child has never had him and will not as long as I have any say in his education. I do know students who have done fine in his class as I am sure Ian has. I also know students who have struggled and asked for guidance. Once he has decided you don’t understand his subject that is it. I would ask how many students have started the class at the bottom and pulled themselves to the top with his techniques. Right now I know 3 kids getting almost all A’s with a B here or there and a D or F in his class. That speaks volumes to me about his ability to teach to all students. Teaching to the top students that have a gift for math doesn’t make one a great teacher. It is like a make-up artist putting make-up on Brooke Shields and saying they made her beautiful.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 28, 2008 @ 9:55 pm

  31. If there is one thing I have learned about Mr. Smith from being in his class all year, it is that he LOVES a good argument. He’ll happily engage in any and every debate. Sometimes I get the feeling that he might not even actually believe what he’s saying, but he just continues for the sake of argument.

    I even have a sneaking suspicion that he might end up being swayed and eventually vote for Measure H.

    So I think that in most ways, this article was fairly harmless. We’re not going to get anywhere analyzing or critiquing his or anyone else’s teaching styles, and frankly, I don’t think they have anything to do with this conversation (which is actually why I would agree with Lauren that the “worst teacher” bit was a completely irrelevant, muckraking line). We’re discussing the parcel tax, not Mr. Smith’s teaching.

    I do understand the mentality, but I think it’s the easy way out. “Blame the district for our ills.” We’re talking about adjustments that could save a few thousand dollars here and there. Is it important to make those if we can? Absolutely. Is it worth not passing the parcel tax if they aren’t doing it exactly the way you would if you ran the zoo? Of course not.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 28, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

  32. Ian,

    That would be great if he votes for measure H but what about the 3 people out there who aren’t really up on the subject and just remember a teacher said the district was wasteful according to a teacher? If they vote no it doesn’t really matter what he votes. As I have worked countless hours on 3 of these campaigns and last time we passed it by 51 votes I understand that even 1 lost vote due to an ill informed voter can cost us this thing. Mr. Smith is all too aware of this and writes it anyway. As far as I am concerned he slams the door in the face of every parent trying to help him.

    As far as bringing up his teaching he is the one who won’t let it go. I also would ask those kids who aren’t doing as well as you but are trying everything if it isn’t important. In the context of the way in which it was written he should take what he dishes out. If you recall he was naming lots of people the thought not competent at their job. He did it very publicly and it was just his personal opinion. I was stating mine.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 28, 2008 @ 10:32 pm

  33. This blog, like any community can only achieve the level of integrity of those who participate.

    So what do you say? Do you want to increase or decrease the value of this site as a source of useful information?
    Should it be a ‘Fox News like’ one-sided view of ‘balanced’ info full of back biting and sniping for snarky entertainment, or can it be a site for more mature discussion of popular issues and local policy debate? I’ve certainly played both ways here, and it is easy to provoke others to bring out the worst in each other. I’ve gotten to witness it in others just as I have reacted myself.
    So here and now and going forward, I’ll TRY to react more maturely even when I really want to unload back at someone, and I’ll hope to maintain that level response as some others do.

    I have not forgotten my question Barbara, have you?……………………………………

    I will answer tomorrow. I only have 5 minutes. I have to to th the EHS crab feed to support school sports.
    Comment by Barbara M — March 15, 2008 @ 4:07 pm

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 28, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

  34. Jeff Smith posted on this blog a version of a previous bloviation which ran in a local paper. So I hope he has been reading this thread.

    In the past I have read letters responding to other letters which seemed quite obviously tongue-in-cheek, but where the responding writer was absolutely clueless as to the sarcasm.

    I hate to get too serious, but whether you support H or not, if you don’t see that the situation with schools state wide is really grave, then you are out of touch. In that context, for somebody to muddy the waters with an overly ambiguous op-ed, ostensibly for their own entertainment or to prop up their ego, is pretty irresponsible and selfish when the stakes are so high.

    I’m glad Ian and Brian “get it”, but after doing outreach on the campaign it can be pretty troubling how confused people can get. I’m not talking about whether they have fully ingested the Measure H Kool-Aid so to speak, but about real basics of school funding and expenditure, like being hyper focused on administrative costs despite stats like those provided in Ian’s op-ed, or griping about salary while not realizing the very basic fact that the budget is largely salary because teaching is labor intensive.

    In the real of pseudo-seriousness, I think we should launch a put up or shut up campaign to draft Jeff and AD to run for BOE on a slate. But then one has to be careful what crack pot ideas one puts out there because a majority of the electorate might take it seriously.

    Comment by "Indy" — May 29, 2008 @ 8:47 am

  35. Barbara M, that must be one long crab feed … we are waiting (2+ months) for your long awaited answer to Kirwin. What have you got to hide???

    Comment by Davidson — May 29, 2008 @ 8:48 am

  36. that’s “in the realm…”

    Comment by "Indy" — May 29, 2008 @ 8:50 am

  37. The truth is David Kirwin is looking to drag my husband through the mud for some reason. He wants to claim Ron wrote measure H to save Franklin or some stupid thing like that. The truth is some lawyer wrote it (because that what happens with legal documents) and the school board approved the words (that is how it gets on the ballot). Ron is a great guy who is so passionate about eduction that he would do anything to help all kids. AUSD has served us so well that I want to shout it from the roof tops and I would do whatever was needed to give back to them. Even if this thing passes, am I more than willing to talk about closing Franklin, Yes. In my opinion it is the right thing to do. So I am not going to come up with some random list of names for David to blame. You can dislike me all you want and people have gotten very upset with me about lots of things but no one can ever claim Ron Mooney isn’t dedicated about educating all children especially those who need an advocate the most.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 9:32 am

  38. 38

    But Barbara,you must admit — H WAS written to save Franklin.

    And Edison.
    And Paden & every other neighborhood school.
    And AP classes.
    And arts.
    And excellent teachers.
    And sports.
    And our community.

    Whoever wrote it, whether it was your husband or the ghost of WC Fields, I don’t care who — it was written for the right reasons.

    Comment by dave — May 29, 2008 @ 9:42 am

  39. Jeffrey Smith is not an elected official nor an appointed officer. He is some guy that writes letters to the editor. Is he fair game? If so, than so is every other Alamedan who writes a letter.

    Lauren is a great writer and her publication, while opinionated, offers a great space for public discourse. So, what happened today? The opinion was a bit too caustic and the target a bit too Joe Schmo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shmoe

    Lauren has the right to say what she wishes — and the respondents also have that right. Hey, not every blog entry can be a winner. Lauren is fallible.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — May 29, 2008 @ 9:45 am

  40. Dave,

    You are right. There are 9500+ reasons and they range in size from about 3′ to 6′+ and they are our future.

    I like to think about it this way. At some point in time Ben Franklin’s mother was trying to get him educated. If some person had said too bad for the young people it’s not my problem where would we be today.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 10:09 am

  41. Barbara – From your post, I think you are clueless about the truth of my intentions.

    For you to proclaim such is an irresponsible statement, like when you wrote “Jeff Smith is the worst teacher…”

    The wording of the Ballot measure the lawyer was told to include (I doubt any lawyer would just start adding things on their own whim), clearly states that MH can be used to prevent school closure.

    Neither I, nor anybody I know, want to go around closing schools; it is only done to protect the educational programs of the district as a whole. Isn’t this important?
    BOE members have stated from the dais that we waited too long with the last small school closures and the financial waste was excessive. We should not aim to repeat mistakes with our limited funds.

    I was not asking for a “random” list of names. Actually the names of who was participating in the planning of the Measure is important to note because 1.) Almost all were from the same (smallest) school, and 2.) These same people may try to take control of the BOE.

    District staff has a wide spectrum of community outreach and sounding board groups; so why was such a select group given this authority?

    I too care deeply for our schools.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 29, 2008 @ 10:18 am

  42. Take control of the board of ed?

    How does the evil Franklin cabal do that? Stuff the ballot box? Stage an armed coup? Hold their breath until the 30,000 or so registered voters give in & let them have board seats?

    You’ve smoked all the grass at the knoll.

    Comment by dave — May 29, 2008 @ 10:33 am

  43. dave – look what they have already gotton on the ballot!

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 29, 2008 @ 10:35 am

  44. The timing, sarcasm, and so on of Mr. Smith’s editorial can be questioned, but is this the issue? HIs main concern is that the administration is inefficient; that Measure H money will go to fill the wrong holes. These are legitimate concerns. Why focus on his character, or how good of a teacher he is, instead of talking about whether or not the administration can trim itself in response to a crisis? This action needs to come from inside the administration; from Ardella Daily. How many people work at the payroll department? What are their salaries? What are their duties? Are their overlapping duties? Can positions be combined? Can payroll be computerized, if it isn’t? Repeat this exercise for every department, voluntarily. Don’t defend every position to the death. I’m sure most of you out there have worked at a place where an expert came, watched you all day, then concluded you only fill 60% of your time, and can take on the duties of the guy in the next cubicle, who then has to clean out his computer, pack his bobbleheads in a cardboard box and go refresh his resume. And you work like a dog, and you adapt, or you go get a better job. It’s not a pretty thing, in fact it’s quite awful and unfair to boot. But it’s the damn bottom line, and it almost doesn’t matter why money is short, whether it’s bad company management or a bad governor. Well, here, the bottom line is your kids. Would you sacrifice your kindergartner’s class size in order to keep an employee employed in the direst of situations, deserving as she may be? Can the district do to itself what it would do to programs if Measure H doesn’t pass, or even if it passes? Wouldn’t you want to assure people that if they do their part and pass Measure H, the district will do its part and make difficult but necessary staff reductions, benefit reducions, salary freezes, whereever possible, through the process described above? What is the point of putting down the person who raises an uncomfortable question, other than to bury the question? What happened to David Howard when he stated (rightly or wrongly, I really don’t know) that some parents at Washington school had questions about getting money from AEF equally, or representation on the AEF board or something like that? He got eaten. Did we ever find out what the questions were, were the concerns valid, and why the parents were discontented? No. This is what I mean by obliterating middle ground. Or you can call it obliterating the person who asks the question–the result is the same: invalidating the question, not talking about it. And my question to Lauren stands: To what end?

    Comment by AD — May 29, 2008 @ 10:48 am

  45. for the children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8yPap-k_s

    Comment by "Indy" — May 29, 2008 @ 11:00 am

  46. We (meaning Ron and I helped some) worked on the past 2 parcel tax measures a lot. When Ron stepped up to the plate and said he would help coordinate this effort he naturally called on people he knew immediately. Naturally our closest network is at our schools. The first thing I really remember about this was everyone thinking who they knew outside our little group. Of course we called on parents at lots of schools, PTAC, AEF and of course the unions (including teachers CSEA etc). Some wanted to help some where more reluctant. Most of the people working on this have nothing to do with Franklin.

    So I am curious, would you really not vote someone on the school board because they were a Franklin parent? Does that make them a bad person because they happen to go to a small school? I feel as though I am in the middle of the Israeli – Palestinian conflict. You don’t like us because we attend Franklin and you assume we are selfish. You don’t even know us or our real views on anything.
    In fact David, I grew up one of the poorest kids in the district I attended and with a single parent who never participated in anything after 4th grade. She even missed my graduation. I am much more an advocate for children who don’t have active parents than I am for my kids. Do I need to sell my house and move within the district lines of the largest elementary school for you to not think I am here to take something from you?

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 11:07 am

  47. I for one am heartily sick of the “Who wrote Measure H” conspiracy theories. Honestly, the language could have been written by Hannibal Lecter and Norman Bates and I wouldn’t care.

    Is the language perfect? No. Could the process have been handled better? Probably, but while we are nit-picking this thing to death, let’s not lose sight of the big picture. Alameda schools are facing an unprecedented crisis. Many of us have specific concerns about “our” school or a specific program, but the point to remember is that the only way we can remedy this crisis and prevent cuts that will affect every public school student in Alameda is to pass Measure H, no matter how imperfect it may be.

    It is time to put criticism of the process, the language or the alleged motives of the drafters on the back burner. In the next few days, we need to concentrate our efforts on gettting this thing passed. After the election, maybe we can all sit down and work with AUSD to formulate a better plan for dealing with future crises. For now, I would hope that all of the energy that is being expended on criticism of the process or the people involved be temporarily redirected into the effort to pass Measure H.

    Comment by Page — May 29, 2008 @ 11:09 am

  48. Let’s go with Norman Bates it’s much more small town and such a classic.

    Thanks Page you have made a true difference in measure H. The great joy of working on these parcel tax measures is the great people from all over the island I have met.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 11:37 am

  49. Barbara – you may claim that the authorship of the measure is unimportant and I will continue to disagree.
    I don’t know / don’t care about personal wealth of those involved; I think that is a non-issue. The issue is did the group insert language that largely protect the interest of their neighborhood school over the programs of the district? If it was put together by Washington parents in a way that appeared to strongly favor Washington Elementary I would be having a grievance with the Washington parents who wrote it – Get it? The issue is that appears almost everybody involved in the wording of the measure are active in the school and the neighborhood of the school so strongly favored by the measure.
    I will continue to believe the names I had listed on an earlier un-refuted post were correct – they were about 90% Franklin parents.
    Since you refuse to answer the question of who was on the committee who wrote it maybe you would answer these questions:
    Why was language included in the measure “to prevent school closure?” Remember my earlier statement, “Neither I, nor anybody I know, want to go around closing schools; it is only done to protect the educational programs of the district as a whole. Isn’t this important?”
    Here is another question:
    District staff has a wide spectrum of community outreach and sounding board groups; so why was such a select group given this authority?

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 29, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

  50. Secret Gold Coast meeting where Measure H was plotted.
    http://tinyurl.com/5rs44w

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — May 29, 2008 @ 6:30 pm

  51. ANT,

    I know we disagree on this subject but I will continue to say you are one of my favorite people on the blog. If that was margaritas in the cups I am sure it was us!

    I think that house is on Sherman or close enough. I just can’t figure out who is the guy with the funny hat my husband or Bill Schaff. Thanks for link I will play it on election night.

    By the way if it is the last mystery about this Island I figure out I am going to find out who you are and buy you a drink, I have to imagine you are entertaining to hang out with.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

  52. David,

    I can’t win with you I am not going to try anymore. A group of people were willing to give tons of hours and loose valuable time with their families. What we get if we pass this thing is so important and what we will loose if we don’t is horrific. There wasn’t actually a line of people wanting to spend the time doing this so it isn’t as if a willing parent wasn’t involved that wanted to be. There are many from Franklin, more from Edison, Otis and Paden. But I dare say I can’t think of a school who hasn’t sent troops to the lines. I am grateful to all of them for being the positive force.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 29, 2008 @ 7:51 pm

  53. I’ll second the sentiment of comment #53 and add a couple of thoughts.

    Almost a week ago in comment #33 of “It’s not personal, it’s business,” Mr. Kirwin commented (obviously with tongue in cheek) to Mr. Richard “Don’t you clearly see that here you make friends with those that agree with you, and instead of ignoring or just letting the others be, it is important to spew as much venom at them as possible ignoring concepts like truth or fiction.”

    Despite the tongue in cheek nature of that comment, I believe Mr. Kirwin was arguing, at least implicitly, that “ignoring or letting others be” is in fact preferable to spewing venom. I agree.

    Mr. Kirwin has raised questions about the alleged Franklin Conspiracy many times in recent weeks. In response, many people (including AEF Executive Director Brooke Briggance, in a very clear, thorough post) have shown that there is no there there. Despite this, Mr. Kirwin has continued to repeat his allegations time after time after time after time. In doing so, among other things, he is impugning the character of the alleged Franklin Conspiracy members whose names he listed in one of his posts.

    I happen to know several of the people he listed and I know them to be people of the very highest integrity. I don’t always agree with them about school issues, but the idea that any of them has some nefarious motive in any of this is just completely wrong and offensive.

    Spewing venom is wrong and counterproductive, especially in the context of the small world of Alameda. On this one, I’m going to go along with the implicit suggestion of Mr. Kirwin’s comment I quoted above and ignore/let him be. In this case, silence isn’t consent or a tacit admission. It is an effort to turn the other cheek and stay away from the venom.

    Comment by Rob Siltanen — May 29, 2008 @ 7:53 pm

  54. Isn’t preventing school closures a good thing? Aren’t there many more schools than just Franklin that may be closed if the tax doesn’t pass? If we have the money, isn’t it a good idea to try to keep these neighborhood schools open?

    What’s the issue??????

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 29, 2008 @ 8:29 pm

  55. I do not know you David Kirwin but I do know the people you think are Alamedans for Franklin. I grew up on the west end, attended west end schools, live on the west end as an adult, have kids in west end schools and teach at west end schools. See the pattern here?

    I liked that you acknowledged that Measure H was written for the right reasons but I need to add that some of those working on Measure H should take control of the Board during the next election. There are some people who are supposedly running who are masquerading as qualified candidates. The prospect of some of the names floating around as board members is devastating to me as an educator who truly understands data driven instruction, equity, collaboration, etc. Some individuals show up to board meetings, PTA events, etc and talk but often are the butt of jokes due to their naive understanding of education amongst many of AUSD’s best. The folks behind the “authoring” of Measure H are not.

    There are amazing teacher-leaders in AUSD who are not happy with what we see as a possible board after the next election.

    Comment by sylvia kahn — May 29, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

  56. I AM NOT SPEWING VENOM!!

    Rob there is a pretty big difference between asking questions and ‘spewing venom’. What is it about my questions that makes you think they are hard to answer or wrong to ask?

    I AM NOT SAYING I DON’T APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THEIR TIME TO HELP OUR SCHOOLS.

    Rob – are you saying people of ‘high integrity’ don’t have self interest?

    I do not question all the people all over Alameda who are working diligently to help pass this measure. I am not one of them, but I have a lawn sign my wife got through our PTA, and I’ve got “yellow billboards” stuck to the side of my car that I got from Gretchen Lipow. This is the measure we have, and I want it to pass, but I wonder why this is the measure we have, because there is a lot to not like about it. It was worded to most directly protect one particular school, and to benefit teachers instead of being collected solely to protect district programs and class size reduction. Those alone are huge issues.

    As I have opined before, I think it should have been a more substantial tax, and been for a longer period of time. It should have been worded to be reduced on a prorated basis relative to changes the Gov makes in the final budget this year. This would have lessened fears of paying for an un-needed tax. (I don’t think there is any way to actually achieve even an average per pupil funding if weighed on a national scale, but those who support the Barbara Kerr view could not argue against the tax as having an ‘undetermined need’ if it would be reduced as the budget from the State was increased). Those are some of my opinions, it would have been better if the opinions of a large cross section of Alameda was heard from before the language of the measure was turned over the lawyers to clean up. We don’t need a consultant to tell us what we want; it works the other way around. No one can lay the language off on the lawyers and consultants. Obviously local businesses should be heard from, just as the local commercial property owner’s are now being heard from thru the business organizations. (All of the businesses I spoke to agree that belonging to the business organizations is not a choice. The membership payment is a requirement by the city to get the business license, and so far every business owner I spoke to that leases their business space say that the businesses that are the commercial property landlords are the ones that are in control of the organizations.)

    I AM POINTING OUT THAT THE GROUP OF FRANKLIN PARENTS THAT PUT THIS MEASURE TOGETHER PUT AS THE 1ST PRIORITY OF THE MEASURE WAS TO SAVE “THEIR” SCHOOL!!

    Why was language included in the measure “to prevent school closure?”

    District staff has a wide spectrum of community outreach and sounding board groups; so why was this select group given this authority to act without public involvement?

    AEF Executive Director Brooke Briggance, in a very clear, thorough post did not answer these questions either.

    If this was a well written, positive progressive tax measure, made with public involvement, with the intent of protecting or improving AUSD programs, I’d be making a lot of noise for it and be out ringing doorbells with my boys, and I’d probably be at the phone banks occasionally too since they are so close to home. Unfortunately what this measure offers is just the lesser of two evils, not something I can get excited about.

    There is nothing nasty or nefarious about trying to find out how and why this happened. Because it did happen, I have questions about the power that did it, and wonder if the next step on the path being followed is to commandeer the power of our school board. The months of unanswered questions, leads me to believe that this is a group I do not want as the BOE in control of the district.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 29, 2008 @ 10:38 pm

  57. Hey, guys! So there’s this guy. His name is David Kirwin. Well . . . I found out that he has a real problem with how Measure H was drafted! It turns out that he could have done it much better, but he supports it anyway. Proceed with your lives accordingly.

    Comment by LaDiDah — May 29, 2008 @ 11:36 pm

  58. my two cents worth, in an abbreviated form, originally submitted as a “letter to the editor” which may never be printed …

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 12:13 am

  59. Time to reconsider Prop H “Emergency”

    Right up front: I totally agree that supporting quality education in the Alameda Unified School District is a high priority and merits the financial and personal support of the entire community (and no, I do not have children in school). The California school funding process has so many problems and demands on its resources that reasonably informed individuals would not expect relief from the state anytime soon.

    However: The “emergency” which started the Prop H ball rolling no longer exists. Alameda will not lose the predicted $4.5 million dollars for school year 2008-2009. Since the governor revised the budget to provide mandated (by state Prop 98) funding for the next year, the “emergency” has passed.

    Yes, there are still some cuts to consider and there are always places to tighten up, shift, delay, etc. to make up the predicted overall 8.8% shortfall. That’s reasonable to expect in a tough economy. That’s why schools have reserve accounts, PTAs, and concerned community supporters.

    And: The very valid concern for the quality of K-12 education must be balanced with an equal concern and respect for the community-at-large. This means considering all options to select the most equitable alternative for producing needed revenue. Prop H fails the “equitable” criteria, especially in the current economy.

    Given supportive citizens, dedicated individuals, and hopefully, the will to do right by our community as a whole, let’s take this opportunity to do a better job on the parcel tax proposal and put it on the November ballot.

    A parcel tax cannot be based on land value and must be uniformly applied to all real property or to all taxpayers. However, and this is where the current Prop H misses the boat, the tax can be defined in different ways: for example, as a fixed amount per square foot of taxable land or property or per “unit-of-measurement“; and, it can include an annual inflation adjustment.

    The two previous parcel taxes charge only residential parcels with a flat tax: a 700 square foot studio condo owner paying the same $189/year as the owner of a 3,000 square foot house, and the landlord of a multiple unit apartment building. Since most people buy homes based on their ability to pay the mortgage (including taxes and insurance), charging these parcel owners the same fee makes no sense and is absolutely inequitable.

    Further, landlords can pass on the $189 (and the proposed Prop H $120) to renters who “share” the cost. For example, in a ten unit building, that‘s less than $3 per month per renter. In addition, according to a recent census, Alameda’s renters (52%) outnumber homeowners.

    Prop H includes businesses at 15 cents/square foot (but not less than $120/parcel) with a limit of $9500.

    In short: Under the currently proposed Prop H , the condo owner pays $309; the large home owner pays $309; the landlord pays nothing (because it’s passed on in rent and deducted on taxes as an expense); apartment renters may pay as little as a few dollars a year; and commercial property owners will pay between $120 and $9500 (or more).

    Let’s take the time to do this right and make it reasonably fair to everyone, including the business owners. If we structure the tax equitably across the entire community, it will raise an equal amount of money without undue burden on anyone. Isn’t that what communities are all about? We’re in this together.

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 12:13 am

  60. Mr. Kirwin-

    You must have some amazing power to read invisible ink. You’re finding words and hidden meanings that the rest of us didn’t even know were there!

    The rest of us see “to prevent school closure” (which, in case you didn’t realize, is a grand total of 4 words) written into the ballot language in a long list of possible cuts that the parcel tax would restore. And yet, somehow, you find this:

    “I AM POINTING OUT THAT THE GROUP OF FRANKLIN PARENTS THAT PUT THIS MEASURE TOGETHER PUT AS THE 1ST PRIORITY OF THE MEASURE WAS TO SAVE “THEIR” SCHOOL!!”

    That’s a heck of a lot more than what the rest of us see!!!! So what’s your secret? Radioactive goop? Magic? Theophany? Descendent of Sherlock Holmes?

    The reason I’m so amazed is that you couldn’t possibly see merely what the rest of us see. Especially since you said this:

    “Neither I, nor anybody I know, want to go around closing schools; it is only done to protect the educational programs of the district as a whole. Isn’t this important?”

    That must mean that you see at least some value in keeping neigborhood schools open (yes, I understand, that value is not as high as maintaining programs.) It would then follow that, if money was suddenly made available due to the passage of a parcel tax, you might put at least some of it towards keeping neighborhood schools open. Right?

    But! (you will almost certainly add) Small schools like Franklin shouldn’t be kept open at the expense of other programs! The beauty, however, is that, as I’m sure you know, the School Board has made a prioritization list of what things will be restored first if H is to pass. And guess what??????? THE CUTS FOR THIS YEAR COME FIRST! And since Franklin isn’t on the list for this year, NO MONEY FROM H WILL GO TO KEEP FRANKLIN OR ANY OTHER SMALL SCHOOL OPEN UNTIL EVERYTHING ELSE IS RESTORED!!!!!!!!

    But see, that all only follows logically if you merely see what the rest of us see. So I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you must be seeing more.

    Now I apologize in advance for the obviously sarcastic tone of this post. But I am extremely offended that you would question the integrity and motives of the people who have worked so hard to pass this measure. This measure that will make sure that YOUR child, Mr. Kirwin, gets just as much money as ANY other child in this district. No matter how many times you say , “I AM NOT SAYING I DON’T APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THEIR TIME TO HELP OUR SCHOOLS” you are still continuing to imply wrongdoing. You can’t say “no offense but,” followed by something extremely offensive, and pretend like nothing’s wrong.

    This is especially vexing when added to your earlier criticisms of the high school students at the March 4th Board Meeting, calling it a “social event” and implying that most of the students didn’t even care about what was going on.

    If, Mr. Kirwin, you support Measure H, and you plan to vote for it, please do those of us who are fighting strongly for it to pass the favor of waiting until Wednesday to continue deriding the measure. It’s almost as if you’re saying “you’re lucky I’m voting for it, but here’s all the reasons I shouldn’t be.” You don’t have to fight for it, but at least please don’t work against it. Especially since you’re a very eloquent, inspiring writer who could turn people away from the Measure.

    Again, I apologize in advance for my tone.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 30, 2008 @ 12:19 am

  61. P.S. Correction to my 12:13 a.m post: that goofy grin in the middle was sent as “by state Prop 98″ (in parentheses)

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 12:21 am

  62. Re #54 and 57: I plan for this to be my last comment on the Franklin Conspiracy Theory (“FCT”) re Measure H.

    Many of us have explained here over and over how and why Mr. Kirwin’s allegations/conclusions in his FCT case are baseless and wrong. Those who have responded and refuted Mr. Kirwin’s FCT allegations/conclusions include (I think) not only Brooke, but also Dave, Page, Mark, Susan, Sylvia, Barbara, Ian and I. (Sorry for any errors of inclusion or exclusion. I think the full list would be longer.)

    At this point, I think it is appropriate to object to any more of this on the grounds that the FCT questions have been “asked and answered” so that we should move on. Mr. Kirwin of course has the right to continue to ask the same questions over and over and over and over for as long as he’d like. But let’s be clear: the FCT is fiction.

    But, really, it is worse than fiction. Mr. Kirwin’s attempt to attribute sinister or selfish motives to the FCT people he named is not just wrong: In this case it is the opposite of the truth. And since his every attempt to beat this FCT dead horse insults further the integrity of the people he named (people whose character I know), his going on and on about this is shameful.

    As I’ve said, I plan not to comment any more on the FCT. My failure to respond to any further allegations should not be misconstrued as an admission that the allegations are true.

    I don’t think I know enough about the theater/garage project or redevelopment locally or at the state level to form an opinion about any of Mr. Kirwin’s ideas in that realm. My comments here are limited to the context of Measure H.

    Comment by Rob Siltanen — May 30, 2008 @ 6:19 am

  63. So much energy has been spent on Dave Kirwins latest conspiracy theory, that “AD”’s post number 45 about David Howard’s concerns almost got lost. AD – as with almost all of Howard’s other accusations, this one also was proven to be a red herring – a false accusation with no merit. And as with all other howard “actions” he has not bothered to apologize for this one either.

    As for Kirwin’s concerns about the way measure H was written, he along with any other concerned individual, had the opportunity to participate in the crafting of this, and chose not to, and now is trying to derail the discussion with an ad nauseum attack. Don’t feed the troll folks.

    Comment by notadave — May 30, 2008 @ 7:43 am

  64. Ms. Niesel,

    The funding emergency does indeed still exist.

    Although the governor is now offering to fund Proposition 98, he is taking just much money from other educational programs. End result: AUSD is still losing millions of dollars in revenue under the governor’s revised budget. And AUSD is still looking at the same list of cuts if the parcel tax doesn’t pass.

    It was a brilliant–though very cynical–PR move on the governor’s part. I’m saddened that some people in this community fell for it.

    Comment by Susan Davis — May 30, 2008 @ 7:53 am

  65. In re: #60: I’m getting my kids ready for school and then going right off to a meeting. Could someone else on this list post some resources for Rita describing the governor’s funding “shell game”?

    Thanks!

    Comment by Susan Davis — May 30, 2008 @ 8:09 am

  66. Rita,

    Thanks for caring enough to participate in the debate but I think you are mistaken on prop 98. Refer to the letter by Bill Schaff in today’s Journal.

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_9419207?source=rss

    Comment by Mark Irons — May 30, 2008 @ 10:05 am

  67. Notadave #64: When was it proven it was “false accusation with no merit”? Just asking because the only reference I have is the thread “Kicking ass and Taking Names” from April 9, 2008. I thought some of the issues raised by David Howard were interesting. Quote:

    o There is a pervasive sentiment among west-end parents that AEF money isn’t equally distributed to all schools. Parents note programs at other schools that don’t exist at Washington, Paden etc.

    o Some parents have asked for ways to donate directly to programs at their local west-end school, only to be encouraged to put their money into AEF. Parents aren’t convinced that their money that goes into AEF comes back equally to their own schools.

    If I were on AEF staff, I would probably make a serious effort to contact David Howard, as well as PTA members of the schools mentioned (Washington, Paden etc) following this allegation and find out for myself whether this sentiment does exist and what is the source of it. I would have responded something like this, “Dear Mr. Howard, thank you for bringing these concerns to our attention. Do you want to meet and discuss this at greater length so we can work out any issues and straigthen up the misconception (because this is what we believe this is)? We are very committed to serving all schools equally, and what you describe is very troubling to us.” And mean it, of course.

    Instead, the closest to an answer he received (on this blog anyway) was a sentence from Brooke Briggance,

    “When I arrived at AEF the first parent group I met with was from Washington, because I wanted to get a sense of their perspective of the Foundation and get some ideas of how I might focus some continued efforts on behalf of the West End.” (which didn’t really say what the perspective was or what the efforts would be)

    and a more enlightening response from Page (quoted in entirety):

    “I think that part of the problem here may also be a function of a basic misperception about AEF. AEF doesn’t have tons of discretionary money to throw around in any direction. If you look at AEF’s Form 990 (available at http://www.guidestar.org, free registration required), you will see that roughlly half of AEF’s revenue and expenses are related to the after-school enrichment programs. AEF’s role in the enrichment programs is limited. The enrichment programs are really in the hands of the parents at each of the schools. It is the parents who select the classes, do the scheduling, contact the vendors and help run the classes. AEF’s role is limited to matters such as processing payments and approving the vendors. Simply put, AEF has no control over that process and has limited, if any, discretion with respect to how the after-school enrichment program dollars are spent. The parents do.

    The second largest part of AEF’s budget relates to the Adopt a Classroom program. Here again, AEF’s discretion is liimited. The adopt a classroom program allows donors to direct their contribution to a particular classroom, school or program. While there likely are some donors (such as businesses) that do not direct their dollars, many donors direct their adopt a classroom donation to their children’s classroom or school. In those cases, again, AEF does not have discretion, and although I don’t know how the discretionary adopt a classroom funds are directed, I would be very surprised if those dollars were directed disproportionately to East End Schools.

    Much of the rest of AEF’s budget is directed to things like music programs (which AEF specifically states is offerred to teachers at all the schools), AP classes at both AHS and EHS, and grants that teachers at any school can apply for.

    In other words, I think that the charges of geographic bias by AEF have no basis, and I would challenge anyone who charges AEF with bias to show specific facts supporting this claim.”

    What I glean from Page’s response in particular is that it is up to the parents to tap into the funds AEF can offer. I also glean that AEF is set up so it benefits those schools with more self-initiative, or ability to attract donors. That could very well be the reason some schools feel unequally served by AEF. If AEF’s goal is indeed to serve all schools equally, then this built-up inequity is something it needs to address. But the answers do not lead me to believe that AEF got what it needs to address. I also don’t believe many of the discontented parents read Page’s answer and made their own conclusions of how to use AEF to their benefit. Did AEF meet with parents from the schools following David Howard’s raising of the issue to explain AEF’s role? If AEF is indeed weighted towards schools with more proactive parents, who, if anybody, encouraged donations to AEF rather than programs in their own schools?

    Other than that, David Howard got flogged by Lauren Do for asking the questions-as the title of the thread indicates-and again I ask: To what end?

    Comment by AD — May 30, 2008 @ 10:06 am

  68. re: #60

    Ms. Nesel:

    Your information on the governor’s budget is out of date. You appear to be recalling his splash on May 15 when he pledged to “restore the cuts.” That soundbite received instatnt news coverage but shortly afterward, careful readers exposed the plan as a shell game that “restores” cuts in one column while maintining them in others, and relying on dubious and likely fanciful lottery plan for funding.

    Bottom line is, soundbites notwithstanding, AUSD is still losing millions in funding.

    Here are a few news items worth checking:

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_9420119?source=rss

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/15/MNH110MAJH.DTL&hw=education+budget&sn=006&sc=652

    http://robsiltanen.com/?p=27
    (in particular click on the “may revise” link for an actual state document)

    Comment by dave — May 30, 2008 @ 10:18 am

  69. [...] Commenter “AD” wrote in on this post: [...]

    Pingback by Stop, Drop and Roll » Ranting on Ranting…. — May 30, 2008 @ 10:58 am

  70. AD,

    Please note that the data I cited is from 2006. AEF is under new leadership now and I believe that with the proactive outreach that Brooke Briggance and AEF are undertaking now to all schools, there will be more opportunity for those schools that feel that they have been underserved by AEF to feel the love.

    You have, however, missed the larger point of my earlier post, My point was that if AEF does not receive unrestricted donations, there is no money to give to any schools. In the past, much of the revenue to AEF was restricted by the purpose for which it was given. There just wasn’t much discretionary money or resources to be distributed.

    Certainly, Alameda residents have choices with respect to how they support schools. I have a child who attends Edison which has an actively involved community of parents. I give to the Edison PTA, but I also give to AEF because I know that not all schools have the same resources as Edison and it’s my way of trying to help students throughout the community. Another available option would be for me to give to the PTA of a school that I believed did not have the same resources as my own child’s school but I don’t believe that I’m in the best position to determine the needs of other schools. I choose to go through AEF because I believe that they will direct the money where it is most needed.
    (And I am curious to know who suggested to parents at Washington — or any other school for that matter — suggested that they should give to AEF instead of giving to their own school. That’s a suggestion that I have never heard and I’m willing to bet that if such a statement was made, it did not come from someone affiliated with AEF.)

    Furthermore, I would note that when David Kirwin expressed some of these same concerns about where AEF’s money is going, Brooke Briggance offered to meet with him personally to discuss his concerns. I have to question whether David Howard (and the AEF critics to whom he has allegedly been speaking) have made any effort to reach out to AEF to get answers to their questions. Communication is, after all, a two way street. If there are concerns, then it really is incumbent for those concerns to be communicated directly to AEF rather than posted on a blog. In this case, however, it appeared that Mr. Howard was less interested in communicating with AEF, than in sitting back, hurling mud and seeing what happens.

    Comment by Page — May 30, 2008 @ 11:10 am

  71. AD: David howards accusations were false because 1: AEF doesn’t shortchange the west end, and 2: Howard never asked a representative group. He made up the charges based on his own perception, but then, that’s what he always does.

    On the other side of the argument though, it will be the West End Schools that will be disproportionally harmed if measure H fails, since there are more families of low income going to school there, who don’t have the capacity to raise as much funds for schools as families living out on Bay Farm.

    Comment by notadave — May 30, 2008 @ 11:44 am

  72. FYI: I support measure H. In fact, I just spent about an hour arguing with someone that she should vote for measure H too. I’ll probably go phone banking this weekend, I haven’t had time so far. I just thought I’d throw this out there before someone runs too far with a conclusion.

    I will get back to Page later.

    Comment by AD — May 30, 2008 @ 1:10 pm

  73. #72 notadave seems to always accuse others of lying.

    Comment by Zone — May 30, 2008 @ 1:44 pm

  74. I appreciate the references provided by those who think I just “missed the boat” and got “hood-winked” by the governor’s message. I spent many years government employ and am very familiar with budgeting processes, shell games and shuffling accounts to cover shortfalls – it’s both an art and a science; but not a great mystery when the facts are made clear. I’ve spent over a week researching numerous relevant websites and databases. Bottom line at this point: yes, there will still be a “loss of revenue” HOWEVER the ADA funds provided for 2008-9 will at least equal what AUSD received for 2007-8. The governor fully funded the ADA amounts, in fact, the total ADA amount actually increased from the current year’s budget(info directly from the governor’s budget and legislative analysis). What we’re NOT getting, is the increase AUSD expected (the “COLA” or cost-of-living raise for state provided funds, approximately 4.2% depending on whose numbers you use) plus some minor percentage cuts to specific programs. This “loss” is well cushioned by our current parcel tax which has substantially improved the bottom line. AUSD has done a great job managing its budget over the years, as far as I can see. There is no reason to expect they can’t handle this next year’s budget if they get the same amount of money they got last year, give or take 3-4%.

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 2:01 pm

  75. Page, thank you for your reply. It is nice to hear that David Kirwin and Brooke Briggance have met to talk about his concerns. i’d ask David Kirwin to post some kind of summary of what he learned. (If he did already, I’ve missed it.) It’s be nice if Brooke Briggance and David Howard met as well. If he hasn’t asked for it, she could. That was my suggestion above. Whoever shows the goodwill, wins points. That is of course if you don’t think the other person is a monster, as so many here seem to believe about David Howard.

    Another suggestion for people to donate might be to the PTA council, the city-wide PTA. It too distributes funds equally, and it also does not have overhead such a paid staff, which means your entire dollar goes to the schools.

    I hope there isn’t a brewing competition for money between AEF and PTA. That would be sad. Both organizations should be working towards the same goal of funding schools, possibly on different levels. PTA can take over concrete programs, and AEF can focus on major grants and building up a rainy day fund for the district. In fact, I believe this is an intention of AEF, to reinvent itself into a big-time fundraising machine. In this case, it should not be relying on pocket change donations, but use its no doubt capable and committed staff to pursue large grants and corporate donors.

    I understand that AEF is in transition, so it is not my intention to give anybody hard time while this is happening. I’d like to remind however that both people and organizations gain credibility when they answer questions, even if they don’t like the tone of the questions, rather than taking offense and not answering them.

    Comment by AD — May 30, 2008 @ 2:22 pm

  76. #64 As for Kirwin’s concerns about the way measure H was written, he along with any other concerned individual, had the opportunity to participate in the crafting of this, and chose not to, and now is trying to derail the discussion with an ad nauseum attack. Don’t feed the troll folks.

    NAD – WHEN WHERE HOW

    Shouldn’t the “discussions been properly noticed?

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 30, 2008 @ 2:29 pm

  77. 77. “proper notice” ? I’m sympathetic to your concerns about transparency and don’t mean to bicker, but the Brown Act does not apply here does it? Also, can you verify for AD if you have already met with Brooke? My impression is you had not yet done so.

    cordially,
    MI

    Comment by Mark Irons — May 30, 2008 @ 3:04 pm

  78. AD,

    I’m glad to hear that you are supporting Measure H and that you are willing to give the new leadership at AEF a chance. (BTW: I have no formal connection to AEF. I’m just an enthusiastic supporter.) I don’t think that there is a competition between the PTAs and AEF. The approach that I’ve always heard from AEF is to just give — be it to your PTA, the PTA Council or AEF. They are all worthy recipients.

    With respect to the answering of questions, I don’t think that there has ever been any intention of concealing information. Connections are sometimes missed, and messages are sometimes lost, but unless there’s evidence to the contrary, I tend to think that no ill intent or coverup is intended. I’m not sure everyone else feels the same.

    And with respect to David Kirwin’s meeting with Brooke Briggance, I too will look forward to his report. Since they only managed to connect with each other a few days ago on this blog (see it does serve some constructive purposes!), I doubt that the meeting has occured especially with the Tuesday election looming.

    In the meantime, thanks for your support of Measure H. Perhaps we’ll meet at the phone bank this weekend.

    Comment by Page — May 30, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

  79. I just need to get this straight.

    Bill Schaff, Page, Susan, Brooke, Ron Mooney and Rob S plus many more are dumb and can’t add.

    Rita is smart.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 30, 2008 @ 3:26 pm

  80. Barbara, I have agreed with their numbers … just not their definition of an emergency. People read numbers differently, and some rely on others to interpret them, trusting their interpretations. I just offered mine. Offer me back facts or numbers to explain otherwise. I know of many people trying very hard to get to the truth of this matter … wanting to help but not willing to be railroaded. I have not been “against” supporting our schools EVER. What I am totally against is the lack of open and informative community forums on the problems and slip sliding away from offering factual support for campaign claims. And even more than that, the dishonorable way this campaign was engineered. No, the Brown Act may not apply, but in a small, caring community like Alameda, the classic (steam-roller)Parcel Tax packaging is inexcusable in all except a dire emergency. And the ONLY time that claim could honestly be made was the first time, in 2001. Since then, the school board and its “supporters” have had more than enough time to craft a fair and equitable approach for long range support of our schools … time to hold “town meetings” to explain the problem and garner support from the ENTIRE community. Call me naive, but I love Alameda and have seen its citizens rise to the occasion whenever needed. Prop H does not ask the ENTIRE community for assistance. Given our demographics, OVER HALF of our voters are renters. No matter how you want to “sound bite” this, renters do not pay their fair share. And I think they would, if given a chance. And the tax can be crafted equitably, on a with a graduated scale. But no one has seen fit to even try an approach which would address these issues. We are now on the 3rd (highly predictable) “emergency” parcel tax literally being forced down the throats of homeowners and businesses. I read the eloquent article by Ian Merrifield. As I finished it, I wondered what he and his classmates would think of the way this money is being raised for them if they truly understood that other options existed and weren’t even tried. Children have a strong sense of doing “what is right”. What kind of civics lesson does Prop H offer them? “Any means to an end” comes to mind …

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 6:22 pm

  81. A note of correction: My first post stated the “emergency” part of this is over because we were no longer losing the original $4.5 million. Looking over my notes (as a result of some of your replies) helped me catch my error.

    When Prop H first arose, based on the media info, it sounded like we were facing a $4.5 cut to the core of our current funding i.e. getting $4.5 milliion less than we got this year.

    Once it was clear from the May Revise, that the ADA funding was intact except for the COLA, etc. it seems reasonable to expect that we could weather this much better than first thought.

    So, I foolishly expected to hear some sighs of relief and a “now that we have some more time, let’s go back to the drawing board and do this right” type of thing.

    When the hype continued using similar numbers, a $4 million dollar deficit, I went back to the data and found that a major portion of that “loss” (based on AUSD’s projected budget) can be accounted for by the COLA, not a cut to the current amount of funding, but a cut to an anticipated increase … big difference.

    So, Barbara, and Dave (thank you for your previous courteous correction), my earlier statement about the $4.5M was mis-spoken. Yes, we do face a “loss of revenue” approaching $4M … but as far as the numbers I can see, we should still be able to weather it, at least long enough to re-construct this parcel tax appropriately. If not now, when??

    Comment by Rita Nesel — May 30, 2008 @ 7:58 pm

  82. So the fact still remains that for the 08-09 school year we will cut sports to the minimum, have no music in elementary, loose tons of AP classes, and of course class size reduction means nothing to you. There is no disputing that it is a fact so if that is ok with you let me know.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 30, 2008 @ 8:12 pm

  83. Barbara,

    I have been informed that high school athletes have been told that there is funding for next year – perhaps in part because of the generous donations of local professional athletes matched by KNBR. Have you not heard this too?

    I thought the music cuts were for grades 1-3, were more grades added?

    How many classes in a ton?

    With the May revise, (still nothing is final) I thought ADA was restored, that some of the restricted budgets were unfunded. Do you know what the city does when say, fire fighter positions go unfunded? Some of those positions which were ‘required’ as far back as 2004 are still unfunded, and have therefore never been filled. AP and AUSD’s portion of CSR are both funded by the general fund (unrestricted), right?

    Maybe I am mixing apples and oranges, but we don’t yet know what the final budget will be. Certainly we don’t want to leave it to a ‘crap shoot’ especially with Arnold still holding the dice, and State Democrats not having the supermajority to override the Republicans who are holding education hostage for their political gains.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 30, 2008 @ 11:26 pm

  84. I’ve not yet read all the posts made here today, and will not have time as I have a busy weekend planned, but a few quick (?) points.

    I was not going to post again before Tuesday out of respect for Ian’s request. Although I disagree with him almost as often as I agree with his posts, he always displays a polite etiquette, whether sincere or not. I think that may be a sign of maturity which I should learn from, but I may just be of a courser cloth, and it is hard enough for me to express my thoughts without worrying about how others might feel. My intent is not about offending others, it is to seek and share information. Needless to say I feel my questions are valid and my perceptions are not unfounded.

    Ian – in response to post #55 & 61;, I disagree with your premises; if a small “windfall” came into AUSD’s budget I would use it not to keep open schools which should be closed, but rather to make the transition of merging schools easier and smoother. Maybe a decade from now CA & AUSD will be back to funding education on a level that is somewhere closer to average (or better) on a national comparison, but in case you did not realize it, we are in “honker down and preserve mode”; it will be a long time before AUSD can enjoy a ’surplus budget’ (after mandates and programs are covered) to such a degree that there can be an elementary school every few blocks. Until then, the wisdom of the 500 – 600 student K-5 school should remain the goal. The merging of the (3) K-5’s to form Ruby Bridges has been remarkable. I was at their DARE graduation last month and although all those 5th graders started at 3 different schools for K-3, now they are “as a single voice”, loud and proud of ‘their’ school. That merger relieved AUSD of 2 unnecessary sets of school administrations, clerical, custodial, and maintenance support, and utilities, which apparently has saved AUSD over $1.2M in the last two years. That is a huge savings in cost per student that can be better spent on actual education services. Those kinds of savings should be repeated, not avoided.

    It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to know that the inclusion on the ballot of those “4 little words” (“to minimize school closures”) carries a lot of weight. The very fact they are on the ballot is hugely significant, that is my point. They are on the ballot measure Ian. You’re a smart guy, you must understand the significance. The decision the BOE made for 1st year spending can be altered, but all the money collected every year of the tax MUST be used for the purposes stated on the ballot measure. There was a problem apparently with some of the wording on the MA parcel tax and as a result the Chairman of that tax oversight committee resigned because of the unintended expenditures. That wording (related to teachers, not closures) is also duplicated in MH. That’s why I call this Measure ‘the lesser of two evils”, – we need to pass this to get this next year funded adequately.

    The writing is on the wall that the State is not going to be supplying the funding to keep schools running as they have been. The economic forecast for the entire country is that things will remain on the decline for a few years. Regardless of source of AUSD funding we have to direct ourselves to even greater efficiency. That is absolutely clear, I hope we all agree on that point too.

    Mark – you signing “cordially” almost knocked me off my chair, then I thought you were factious until I realized in that post you were not being offensive at all… Thank you.
    1. No I have not yet met with, or even spoken to Brooke Briggance. I thought she made it clear that she is unable to verify where AEF money was spent until after their accounting audit is completed.

    2. No, the Brown Act does not apply to ‘unofficial’ or advisory groups, such as whatever group put together the wording that went thru a consultant and a lawyer before it was discussed and approved at a BOE mtg. I did of course attend that BOE mtg where the wording and intent was made public, but as has been posted, the meeting was over-crowded, (way beyond legal capacity of the Chipman Gym), there was insufficient sound reinforcement (Back section of gym, crowds in halls and outside could not hear the meeting, and the BOE changed the order of agenda to keep the student crowds around until after the item on Measure H. If they had kept to the published agenda the whole audience that was there for the tax measure would have been able to hear and participate in that part of the meeting. (BTW, I never said most of the students were disruptive, I said that a significant # were so disruptive that those of use in the back could neither hear not participate. A “proper” meeting would have had a ‘sergeant at arms’ maintain decorum or escort others out of the room.)

    If my questions on who, how, where, and why, the measure was written with the wording that was included, has been answered – please cite or link to that post, I must have missed it.

    Brooke posted about her & AEF’s NON-INVOLVEMENT with the authorship of the measure; that did not answer my MH questions. I look forward to discussing AEF with her at a later date.

    Rob S has not answered my questions, but if I am an example of how he treats those who ask difficult questions I am glad he was not one of my teachers. My teachers encouraged questions.

    Obviously Barbara has not, and will not answer my questions.

    I am not a ‘venom spewing, counter productive, offensive conspiracy theorist”, I am disappointed that some of these people have gone so far as to blame me and fan the fires of divisive derision rather than answer the simple questions. If S. Holmes was left to read the ‘tone of the missing lines of information’ he too would be logically gathering volumes of supposition.

    Maybe after the 4th we will discover who each of us really are and will be able to work together.

    Shirley – this will be continued after 8 pm on the 3rd. Or for those against the measure “May they go in peace, and vote on the 4th…

    Hopefully a friendlier discussion can be started almost immediately after Election Day on a tax measure that EVERYONE (except maybe tom p) will want to supportively shout about. Win or lose, MH can be replaced as early as November, and will absolutely have to be replaced or increased in time for the AUSD budget for 2010 which must project 3 years. Maybe the taxes collected in the last year, 2012, will see AUSD thru the next year, I’m not sure if, or how, this is currently projected – anybody know?
    Maybe with the next tax measure we can have a more significant, longer term solution. Like a larger, more fair, progressive tax that will remain on-going until the AUSD budget meets a State or National average, whichever is less, and then the tax can be reduced to the lowest amount possible to keep us at that 50th percentile.

    In the words of Bill Thompson –Vote early, and vote often….
    Cya next week…

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 31, 2008 @ 12:02 am

  85. Mr. Kirwin-

    You make a couple very valid points. I agree, as, in case you missed it, Barbara Mooney does as well, that the closing of Franklin should be seriously considered. As you say, it is probably very innefficient to continue to run such a small school. I agree that Ruby Bridges has been a success, and I think the district should look at (they already are, by the way) similar school consolidations. (As a side note, I would certainly NOT reccomend that for the high schools, however, but that’s a different issue.)

    My problem is that you seem to assume that just because Franklin has a group of particularly active parents (as does Edison, Bay Farm, Washington, etc.) , that they must have these alterior motives. I only happened to go to Franklin because we live a couple of blocks away (I live east of Grand, however, not quite the Gold Coast. According to the Harbor Bay Realty website, we live on the “Bronze Coast,” a designation that I find extremely funny.) My youngest brother will be starting kindergarten at Paden next year, my other brother at Chipman.

    The fact is that if Measure H is passed, that does not preclude closing/consolidating Franklin or any other small schools. It gives us the option to keep the schools open if we decide that’s the best use of our money. And those words are on the ballot measure because there are many people in this town who feel that keeping neighborhood schools open is very important, and many of those peole have nothing to do with Franklin.

    If H passes, there is no legal obligation to keep Franklin or any other school open. Otherwise, why would there be a restructuring committee working right now? Wouldn’t they wait to see whether or not the measure passed? It’s on the table, being considered, regardless of Tuesday’s outcome. Isn’t that what you want?

    Why don’t we give a group of extremely dedicated people, who are fighting for public education here in Alameda in a number of very important ways, the benefit of the doubt? Why do you instantly assume there must be wrongdoing? Would it hurt to wait and see what happens? Because believe it or not, it is possible that the tax passes and Franklin closes eventually anyway. It is possible that these people are actually doing what they say they’re doing, and fighting for ALL of Alameda’s students, rather than a very select few.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 31, 2008 @ 12:41 am

  86. One more thing-

    While, again, I think that consolidating elementary/ middle schools should be considered, let us please remember to keep this all in perspective. Luz Cazares said once that consolidating two elementary schools saved an average of $350,000. I’m not saying that wouldn’t be an important step, but again, we’re talking about $4.5 million here.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 31, 2008 @ 12:52 am

  87. “…but again, we’re talking about $4.5 million here.”

    I thought Arnold ratcheted it down to $4 from $4.5. Consolidation saves $350K, Arnold saves $0.5 mil. Looks like we’re down to only needing $3.65 mil. and that’s just cola money. Course, everyone else’s cola was fully funded…right?

    Comment by Jack Richard — May 31, 2008 @ 11:02 am

  88. This and much more at http://www.mikemcmahon.info/boe_meeting052708.htm
    Governor’s May Revise Budget Report
    Background: The Governor’s recommended budget:
    • Does not suspend Proposition 98
    • Level funding for revenue limits and special education (i.e., no COLA)
    • The combination of the absence of COLA and the continuing rise in the costs of our educational program results in ongoing budget pressures.
    REVENUE LIMIT COLA AND DEFICIT
    • Statutory COLA of 5.66%
    • Deficit factor of 5.357%
    • AUSD: Loss of $3.2M in new and ongoing Revenue Limit

    …So the number being bounced around this blog and local papers is not what the AUSD Chief Financial Officer is saying…
    1. …” I just need to get this straight.
    Bill Schaff, Page, Susan, Brooke, Ron Mooney and Rob S plus many more are dumb and can’t add.
    Rita is smart.
    Comment by Barbara M — May 30, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
    Perhaps those listed above should check their numbers with AUSD CFO, or check the presentation of the BOE mtg at the above website.
    And I recall from the March 4th AUSD BOE mtg that Class Size Reduction has been preserved in all the lower grades and at this point only 9th grade could lose CSR.
    I don’t mind all the propaganda – but it should be truthful. When there are so many real reasons to pass this measure why do some persist in voicing grossly inaccurate information? Such scare tactics will only serve to destroy credibility.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 31, 2008 @ 11:40 am

  89. I did not check my exact list, for that I am sorry. Was trying to do it from my head from the smallest computer screen I have ever seen.

    The fact is we still need to cut about 4 million dollars. Doesn’t matter what pot Arnold is guessing he is going to pull it out of. Besides no budget has been approved by the state and they seem more than willing to leave us in a state of having contracts we can’t pay for.
    So David can we make nice for 3 days and just agree that for your kids sake and mine we will pass this and argue later? Even if you don’t like the words I know you know 4 million in cuts would not be good.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 31, 2008 @ 1:18 pm

  90. Mr. Kirwin,

    You don’t have any response for my earlier comments?

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — May 31, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

  91. Ian – I thought your questions were rhetorical. I figured you had been reading my posts since you responded to a number of them. Perhaps we can go back to one of my first impressions of hearing the wording of the measure. This was written following the March 4th BOE meeting:

    Last night, mergers of elementary schools was not discussed – Good God we can’t touch Edison or Franklin – where Don Perata’s grand daughter goes to school, yet this tiny school of about 250 students costs the full spectrum of administration. Last night BOE Member David Forbes did talk about how the delay of the other school mergers cost the District dearly (I think in the millions), and Superintendant Daily did say that we would likely be reduced to two Middle Schools. So why Ms Mooney, why does the language of the new Parcel tax start with the idea that it is for “Minimizing School Closures”?
    We should be encouraging school mergers if it will save other programs. These tiny schools mean that the cost per student there is way more expensive than at the larger schools. Spending more per pupil at those schools means loss of programs for the rest of the district. Is that fair? I was told the language of the measure was in a large part determined by you and your husband and a small circle of friends and the consultant, and that the district’s PTA’s and the community at large were not allowed to be part of the process, not even the full BOE was invited to participate.
    IS THIS TRUE??
    Why does the rest of the proposal sound so much like the past MA’s that recently went so south that Judge Bartalini resigned in resentment, feeling betrayed by what he felt hurt his reputation in the eyes of all whom he sought to support Measure A.
    The BOE needs to call and emergency mtg to clarify in the ballot proposal specifically how the money will be spent. We can’t afford to lose the tax parcel, and we can’t afford for the money raised to go anywhere except where the voters approve. Whit what recently happened, the present language will not fly.
    Let me give you an example which was included in an email I received today”
    It was unfortunate that the parcel tax came before the cuts because I know others would have spoken to the request that it be more specific to have proceeds generated go first to reinstate any cuts that were made last night (this morning) to things that have what I’m calling high impact to the students.
    For example, athletics/pools, CSR for 9th graders, music to 1st and 2nd graders, AP classes. My read of the AP classes was that there may be some that will be offered 1st or last period at only one of the high schools, but there was nothing about transportation. There may have been others, I’m not sure though.
    Music is specified under Measure A. Yet, that’s being cut this time.
    We’ve previously cut afterschool sports from middle schools – maybe that could be included.
    Regardless of what the things are that are specified (I think the author really meant to say “Unless things are specified…), as we’ve seen with Measure A, money will actually go first to salaries because they’re all there together and given equal weight, and (the $ will go) to small schools because AUSD hasn’t closed them.

    Other Districts do prioritize by having a percentage of the funds go to certain things -
    • Palo Alto http://www.campaignforexcellence.org/ballot.htm Passed 74.12%
    About 43% of the funds would be used to maintain current class sizes. Another 31% would help PAUSD prevent teacher layoffs. The remaining 26% would restore about one-third of the programs cut since 2003, including some elementary reading, art and math programs, middle and high school course offerings, librarian hours, counseling services and instructional materials.
    San Fran – ballot measure $128/20 years; 70% teachers 30% technology Agmt between Dist. & Teachers Union
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/13/BA9KV17KO.DTL&hw=school%2Bboard&sn=002&sc=778 About 70 percent of the revenue raised would to go toward the salary increases and other teacher support and training, while 30 percent would be spent on “technology, innovation and equity,” according to district officials.
    It may be harder to write, but it will avoid the problem we had with Measure A. In the next 4 years, there will be negotiations, there may also be more cuts from the State, we don’t know. But the way it’s proposed, including small school and teachers and staff, programs will continue to get what’s leftover.

    Repeatedly last night there were calls for the community to get behind the parcel tax if we want to reinstate anything that’s cut. But the way this parcel tax is written, we’ll have students and families working incredibly hard to pass this only to find out that within the next 4 years, they may see their athletics, music, CSR back on the chopping block and cut.

    In regards to why this Measure is not practical, there are people that remember campaigning for Measure A for programs that are not unhappy that the money went elsewhere. This one needs to be written so that we can get those people behind us.
    In regards to small schools, I believe the District needs to clearly inform the community of the cost of those small schools. I’m not calling them neighborhood schools because this town is so small, in other towns, our whole island could be a “neighborhood schools.” The cumulative effect on AUSD’s budget of keeping our smallest schools, is one of the things that have contributed to the dire financial situation the District is in. If Alameda wants small schools, it needs to contribute more to education. The parcel tax must be higher. Otherwise, we continue to sacrifice “quality education for all” for small schools. There’s not enough money for both.

    Wishing I am wrong, I really feel last night’s meeting was “set up” – the athletic proposal of course would fill the room with high school kids. The room was way, way past capacity – do you know how many hundreds of people could not even get in? With all the students excited about ‘demonstrating’, talking on their cell phones and chatting amongst them selves, it was virtually impossible to be able to participate in the meeting, let alone to be part of the parcel tax discussion. I am certain this came of no surprise and indeed was intended as reveled by the decision to reverse the agenda and to NOT let the kids have their hours in the spotlight 1st. Normally the agenda item with broad student participation goes forward on the agenda to allow students to get to sleep at a reasonable hour.

    Ordinarily I am a big fan of our Superintendant, I was shocked to learn last night that it was her decision to include 3rd grade class size reduction on the list to be evaluated by the BOE to be suspended. Not only was this one of the reasons we voted for the previous parcel tax, but it came out in the meeting that it was a reduction of 11 Full Time position Equivalents (FTEs) and the cut would yield only $100K . Goodness, because CSR is partially (mostly) funded by other State and Fed budgets, we would lose the 11 full time credentialed teachers in exchange for $100k? Of course that was a no-go. But why was it even considered except as an inflammatory distraction?
    Comment by David Kirwin — March 5, 2008 @ 6:49 pm

    So Ian do you think it wise to include on the ballot measure wording to protect budgetary inefficiencies? You may think some will vote for MH if it will “minimize school closures”, but wouldn’t more people appreciate the district planning on increasing savings?

    Do you think it could be misleading to include the wording to try to garner votes of those trying to keep small schools open, if in fact there is the movement to close the small schools to be financially responsible and better balance AUSD pending per pupil? I don’t think you can have it both ways – in my opinion that violates my perception of integrity.

    The same thing did happen with MA – It was even in the press that it would help save the small schools that the district was already planning to close. Almost as soon as the measure passed it was announced that the schools would close. What do those voters think when they see this again? People consider ballot wording as ‘promises’. It is not completely honest to encourage false expectations – Is it? Is that what you want to do again, or are you trying to ‘buffalo’ me, because this time I assume all attempts to keep Franklin open will be used, and the ballot wording not only makes the use of the tax funds for that purpose legal, it also can be harkened as the reason the extra cost per student must be spent – “see that’s what the voters voted for….”

    So again, please explain why the wording to protect fiscal inefficiency had to be included…

    It is a good policy to go by the letter of the law in all contracts rather than to ‘bank’ on the good intentions of even the very best people. Things change, ideas change, and legally agreed language is like insurance.

    And if you had read what AUSD CFO said after the May revise, it is not a $4.5M shortage of COLA, but $3.2 M, but I understand your point that we need $, I have never argued that point.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 31, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

  92. First, Franklin has 280+ kids
    Second, I am happily married which makes me a Mrs.
    Third, I won’t answer your questions because you refuse to think I an an honest nice person married to a honest nice guy who wants to help children. Since you use your preconceived notion of me to not listen I will take mine opinion of you to know that it is a complete waste of time to answer. So I won’t ever answer anything you say so you can keep putting jabs out there, everyone out in lauren-blogland know who you are and what your MO is and no one else is listening.

    Comment by Barbara M — May 31, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

  93. Barbara M #93

    - Please not that post #92 was a direct response to post #91 – that’s why it was addressed to Ian.

    I know it was a long post, it is a weekend, and you haven’t been checking facts before posting this weekend, (that is your admission, not my assertion), so you were probably just confused enough to not notice that the “questions you refuse to answer were asked of you, not today, but on March 5th. Obviously you are not going to answer them. Let me repeat – the point of the post was to respond to Ian’s post #91 where he asks me for a response to the questions he asked in posts #86 & 87. I know that is a lot to follow in these confusing times.

    From Wikipedia: Ms., an honorific title for women. I certainly meant no offense.

    As for your statements of what I am thinking – You obviously don’t have a clue as to what I think.

    Everyone here has seen that you avoid questions about facts that you don’t want to admit. Readers here see you post false information about things important to you. It really appears like you are manipulating the truth with inflammatory fear statements like your post #83 to support your cause. I have never said you are a bad person. This is not about you, or your husband or any of all the wonderful people working all over Alameda to try to get AUSD more operating money for this next fiscal year. You are obviously committed to a very worthy goal of helping AUSD. It just seems that you use the purpose of your goals to justify your means, and that the wording of the actual measure provides the means for consequences you say are unintended. My fear is that will have negative repercussions when AUSD tries to pass the kind of tax that is going to be needed; this is just a temporary measure.

    My concern is the amount of the Parcel tax, and the wording of it, coupled with the fact that there was no public input as to the needs, purpose and goals of the tax before it was put to the lawyers and BOE. In essence the poor wording appears to have been railroaded.

    Comment by David Kirwin — May 31, 2008 @ 8:03 pm

  94. Dave Kirwin is a raving conspiracy poster. But he does have impeccable taste in radio.

    Comment by notadave — May 31, 2008 @ 8:28 pm

  95. Lauren makes the big time!!!

    Congratulations!

    Blog of the week: Alameda’s digital town hall

    John Diaz
    San Francisco Chronicle
    Saturday, May 31, 2008
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/31/INMF10U5EH.DTL

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — May 31, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  96. Because Lauren’s ego needed to be even bigger.

    Comment by citizen X — May 31, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

  97. Note to Dave Kirwin: thank you for taking the time to post … it gives me hope to witness your careful reading of posts and measured responses, as well as your focus on truth … even while being totally committed to the education of our community’s children. Your scope of experience with this issue is invaluable to those of us who aren’t normally in this loop and have no axes to grind … just wanting straight answers and honest efforts.

    Thanks …

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 1, 2008 @ 12:16 am

  98. citizen X…you obviously do not know Lauren personally, because she is about as far away from big ego as you can get.

    Kudos to Lauren for providing such a great resource for our community!

    Comment by Val — June 1, 2008 @ 9:32 am

  99. Other than posting comments on here I am actually curious what Mr. Kirwin does to contribute to the betterment of our schools?

    Comment by Barbara M — June 1, 2008 @ 9:58 am

  100. 100

    Personally I think Mr. Kirwin has done more for the betterment of education about our schools in this city by posting comments on this website than most of the H supporters who also post on the site

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 1, 2008 @ 10:56 am

  101. Way to go Lauren! Congrats on being Blog of the week in the Chronicle. Does that mean you can now add award wining to the masthead?

    Comment by notadave — June 1, 2008 @ 12:09 pm

  102. Mr. Kirwin-

    “So Ian do you think it wise to include on the ballot measure wording to protect budgetary inefficiencies? You may think some will vote for MH if it will “minimize school closures”, but wouldn’t more people appreciate the district planning on increasing savings?”

    You have defined keeping small schools open as “budget innefficiencies.” Not everyone would agree with that.

    The fact is, the Measure merely provides money to “minimize school closures.” That’s all. Does that preclude school closures? No.

    Another very important point: You’ve obviously been very concerned with who wrote Measure H. But the authors of the tax have no influence on where that money is actually spent. That authority lies solely with the oversight committee and the Board of Education. So if I were you, I would wait to accuse good people of underhandedness until the committee is formed and we see who will actually be distributing that money.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 1, 2008 @ 12:37 pm

  103. On the surface, an elementary school with 280 is less efficient than an elementary school with 500 students. With the same administrative expense for both schools, the smaller school is less efficient.

    However there are two factors that need to be considered for Alameda. First, finding an elementary school for 280 students would prove problematic for Alameda. The current demographic study shows that elementary school capacity is full with 10 sites so closing a site would create over crowding somewhere in the system. Second, there is comething called charter schools. Charter school operators would be lining up to open a charter school at the Franklin site. With the opening of a charter school the $300,000 savings would vanish if 60 students signed up with the charter school.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

  104. #103
    Ian,
    The “Oversight Committee” has no authority to determine how any District money is spent. Be clear on that.

    The sole function of the oversight committee will be to report that an amount of money from the AUSD general fund which is equal to the money collected from Measure H is spent on things the ballot measure says MH is for.

    I was at the first Measure A oversight report to the BOE (the committee must report once per year, and will likely only meet quarterly to receive staff reports), and I walked out after the MA chairman left – I had to ask the question: “Wouldn’t AUSD have spent that much on those programs anyway, even without MA funds?” The simple answer was “Yes, but the oversight committee must be shown reports, (charts, spreadsheets…) on which they can report to the BOE that an amount of money equal to the tax was spent on the items described on the ballot measure.” So even though AUSD would likely have spent that much or more on those items, the oversight committee guarantees that at least that much is spent on those items listed on the ballot. That was about 6 years ago. Last year the Chair of that oversight committee resigned because the “sloppy language” of that Measure allowed for expenditures he was told would not be made with MA funds when he was working diligently on that campaign, making promises or statements based on what he was told about how the parcel tax money would be used, and years later, he felt betrayed and resigned. The District did meet the legal requirements, but what was said during the campaign was not guaranteed by the wording on the ballot. That’s one reason I am concerned about the language on this ballot measure.

    Can the BOE “minimize school closures” without the wording on the ballot measure? Absolutely, of course, they have been, they will continue to do so. The district doesn’t need this language on the ballot measure to try to keep schools open. So, why were these words specifically put on the ballot? The only people who can answer that question just will not answer it, have refused to answer it. I am concerned by that. The handful of people who got together on their own, met with a consultant, put the wording together, submitted it to a lawyer, then to the BOE, (with “to minimize school closures” as first listed purpose of the parcel tax. The BOE moved it down in the list), then formed a new organization called KASE to raise campaign money and organize volunteers to help pass the measure, must be dedicated, caring, very well organized, self motivated, intelligent, and incredibly generous with their time. I thank them as much as I thank the thousands of others who have also volunteered time to support this measure.

    The first big question that hit me when I saw the measure presented to the public at the March 4th BOE meeting was, whereas we merge schools to save money; why now did we put minimizing school closures as our first priority for the spending of the tax revenue? I was told that the authors of the measure were all Franklin Parents – from the school that most would expect to be the next school to be merged on the basis of the size an location of its student population. So I started to ask questions about that, only I never got an answer and instead was labeled as a “raving conspiracy poster.” Thank goodness I learned long ago that how I see myself, with my mindfulness and integrity intact, is far more important than how others label me. Of course some bloggers (usually anonymously) will continue to be insulting, but they should be reminded that what they write does more to define them, than me.

    That said; I was totally blown away by posts #98 & #101. Thanks.

    #104 Mike

    We had been discussing these issues on the Charter School threads just a few months ago. Certainly moving so many students would be painstaking. They would not likely all end up at the same facility, Some would go to Washington, others to Lum, Haight, or elsewhere. There would be a ripple through the district. Years ago, although the law prevents “recruiting” students from neighboring districts, AUSD was allowing many students from outside the district to attend AUSD schools. Painful as it may be to those families living outside the District, we may not be able to continue to allow that. The exception I would hope for is for the children of AUSD teachers and staff.

    My understanding is that many schools have converted rooms to staff rooms, store rooms, copy rooms, art or music rooms for specific grades, before and afterschool programs, etc. Some rooms may have to be converted to classrooms in order to save hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

    As far as Charter Schools wanting to rent or lease facilities from us, I don’t see a problem with that. A “Field Act Qualified” facility may be expensive for them, as they certainly are for us, but public school systems are not ‘for-profit’ mechanisms. The State does allow host districts to charge charter schools the actual cost of the facilities.

    For every student who chooses to be schooled elsewhere, AUSD loses the associated ADA money. We should also be losing the associated costs, which by my math exceeds the ADA money. As you pointed out in the past – the loss of say… 45 students would not simply break down cleanly into two classes, two teachers, etc. I agree, but we never have those clean lines of student number groups anyway, – we always have some mixed classes to resolve the overall picture. My 2nd grade son at Earhart has as many or more 3rd graders in his class, and some are as far away as Bayport. This was not by choice of the Bayport parent – it was where the opening was when they enrolled in AUSD a month or two ago. My point is there will always be a need for adjustments, but the bottom line for public schools is about the delivery of education – more students does not equate to increasing profitability. I think we only lose ADA, which is only one stream of revenue. Student attrition does not affect bonds and property taxes for example. I don’t see Charter Schools as a threat to AUSD viability. If they can help educate Alameda’s children in a way AUSD cannot, why in theory (not relating to any specific charter application) are they not supported?

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 2, 2008 @ 1:41 am

  105. Just as a side bar:
    If Franklin were ‘surplused’ by the BOE, I think with the proximity to high frequency public transportation and the business district, the Franklin Elementary facility would be a better candidate for residential, or mixed-use residential conversion, than the site now being considered for residential conversion using the District’s redevelopment funds that the city is holding for the District.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 2, 2008 @ 2:06 am

  106. Hi all,

    Just want to remind you all that you live in Mayberry, not some big anonymous city. You know that, right? I mean, you all know that you all know each other? Good.

    Here is my summary of the debate thus far:
    Those of you who actually care about the quality of our schools will Vote Yes on Measure H. Those of you who are making long arguments about whether Measure H as written is the best possible measure, or quibbling about the process by which it was written, you are just trying to assuage your guilty conscience for not being willing to pay your fair share. Do the right thing: Support measure H, or at least come clean about your real reasons for not doing so.

    Comment by Aunt Bea — June 2, 2008 @ 10:36 am

  107. Re: #107. High-larious! When we moved here from NYC in 1978, my father called Alameda “Mayberry” for at least 10 years. He couldn’t get over the fact that the signals were turned off at 9pm.

    Well said, Aunt Bea!

    Comment by Kerri L. — June 2, 2008 @ 10:49 am

  108. “So move to Ricmond, Jack. Please.”

    “you are just trying to assuage your guilty conscience for not being willing to pay your fair share. Do the right thing: Support measure H, or at least come clean about your real reasons for not doing so.”

    “Other than posting comments on here I am actually curious what Mr. Kirwin does to contribute to the betterment of our schools?”

    Rather than try to counter the arguments against Measure H, some of the proponents hope to score points by making Ad Hominem attacks. This is going to poison the well for possible future measures to support the schools. Proponents simply need to accept that there is more than one side to the issue and that those opposed are just as nice folks as they are.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 2, 2008 @ 11:08 am

  109. Since when is letting schools falter over pennies a day “nice?”

    Comment by Citizen X — June 2, 2008 @ 11:26 am

  110. AlamedaNayTiff, I will admit that I am strongly pro measure H, but I have tried to listen to the arguments against measure H, and haven’t heard a compelling one yet. Here is what I have heard:

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because the problem is at the state level. I agree that the state funding system is broke, but does that mean we should deny our children a quality education even though we have the financial wherewithal to pay additional money.

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because all the money will go to “Gold Coast” and/or East End schools. Blatantly false, money will be allocated among all schools to restore specific services

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because it includes a clause to minimize school closures. Nothing wrong with keeping schools open if possible, but Measure H doesn’t mandate that schools will be kept open. Closure of any school at this point is probably going to over strain other schools, and end up costing more money than keeping them open.

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because it hasn’t been proven that school impact property values. That doesn’t matter. This is about maintaining the quality of education, not the value of property.

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because we don’t know who wrote it. Not even worth commenting on.

    Measure H shouldn’t be passed because businesses have to pay more. On a per customer basis, I would bet the increased cost isn’t more than 5-10 cents. That type of increase can probably be easily absorbed by the customers.

    I shouldn’t have to pay for Measure H since I don’t have any kids. No, but your quality of life is going to be impacted by those kids. They are going to be working for you, taking care of you when you are in the hospital, serving you at the store, contributing to keeping the social security funds going. Shouldn’t they be well educated?

    I think there are a lot of things we could be doing better in education, and hopefully one day in the near future we will have enough money that we can have the luxury of having that conversation, but in the meantime, we are perilously close to turning out a generation of children deprived of a proper education unless we pass Measure H as a first step.

    Comment by notadave — June 2, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

  111. NAD – I think you are being a bit “shilly”, to use Lauren’s word.

    Since March 5th, I have been questioning both who wrote the Measure, and why the language about minimizing school closures was included. I have not gotten answers which is extremely disappointing and rather troubling. Equally troubling for me is that so many seem to blame me for asking questions rather than wanting to know the facts. Tell me – Is ignorance bliss?

    That said – Since this Measure was submitted to the County of Alameda by the BOE on March 7th, I have NEVER said it should not be passed.

    I just want to be clear about that because of your wording of the previous post.

    I have never heard anyone say;

    “Measure H shouldn’t be passed because it includes a clause to minimize school closures.”

    Nor have I heard anyone say;

    “Measure H shouldn’t be passed because we don’t know who wrote it
    .”

    While I also questioned some of the hearsay concerning AEF, I have not heard anyone claim;

    “Measure H shouldn’t be passed because all the money will go to “Gold Coast” and/or East End schools.”

    I also question your statement;

    “I think there are a lot of things we could be doing better in education, and hopefully one day in the near future we will have enough money that we can have the luxury of having that conversation”

    In your world, how much does the luxury of having a conversation really cost? Are you paying Lauren Do, or any of the other readers / posters? I don’t have to pay people to have a face to face chat either – Where is it that you have to ‘buy’ a conversation?

    Perhaps a bit of conversation would have saved a heap of controversy.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 2, 2008 @ 4:12 pm

  112. >>> … This is going to poison the well for possible future measures to support the schools. Proponents simply need to accept that there is more than one side to the issue and that those opposed are just as nice folks as they are.

    Best post of the day. Generally speaking California has severe budget problems and taxes are going to go up across the board. Next time the school needs to go to the well, the taxpayers will be saying “no mas.”

    Comment by Jack B — June 2, 2008 @ 4:25 pm

  113. Voting “NO” on Prop H
    does not mean you don’t care about Alameda’s children.

    It means you don’t like the solution AUSD has given us. It means you consider education too important to keep using band-aids instead of curing the illness

    The Alameda School Board (AUSD) has broken faith with the Alameda community by asking for an “emergency” parcel tax which represents a grossly unfair, inefficient form of taxation. This time, they hurt some community businesses, too.

    AUSD marketed their admittedly far-from-perfect Prop H as the “best they could do.”
    Then they asked dedicated, committed parents to “sell” Prop H as the only possible solution.

    The numbers now tell a different story. AUSD has a new budget, without most of the threatened cuts.

    The city’s children will NOT suffer next school year (2008-2009) if AUSD takes the time to do it right for the November ballot.

    AUSD has had seven years, and a second “emergency” tax, since the first “emergency” in 2001. If that’s not enough time to craft an equitable, long term solution, do you really think they’ll do it this time?

    The schools do have a funding problem. Our children need a long-term solution. AUSD says we need a long-term solution. The parents say we need a long-term solution. Why does AUSD want another temporary one?

    For now, a parcel tax is the answer. But not THIS parcel tax.

    VOTE “NO” on PROP H.
    Tell AUSD to bring us a REAL Solution in November.
    .

    Some facts you may not know:
    (From AUSD May 27th Board Report http://www.mikemcmahon.info/boe_meeting052708.htm)

    1. The Governor’s budget provides “level funding” for students and special education; this means, AUSD will get the same funding per student as this year (but no raise, called “COLA”)

    2. The Governor relaxed rules to allow AUSD maximum flexibility in moving money from one account to another to make the budget work.

    3. AUSD’s current budget (2007-8) predicts a year-end positive balance of $4,657,141.
    ……..Of that, $2,688,722 is specifically for “economic uncertainties”.

    4. AUSD’s budget for 2008-9 predicts a year-end balance of $3,105,743.
    ……..Of that, $908,767 is specifically for “economic uncertainties.
    (these figures include money from the current parcel tax, but nothing from the proposed Prop H)

    5. Many of the “possible cuts” are already “saved” including 3rd grade class size reductions and teacher layoffs.
    It appears generous donations have guaranteed keeping school sports. Community fundraising is helping music and others.

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 2, 2008 @ 4:57 pm

  114. Fact #3 at the end of post #114 should read “AUSD’s current budget for 2007-2008″ (the text editor apparently turns 8s plus end parentheses into smiley faces 8)

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 2, 2008 @ 5:03 pm

  115. Is that all true Auntie Rita? You absolutely promise that Alameda’s kids won’t suffer even a teeny tiny bit, even if Measure H doesn’t pass? Are you going to be teaching my music class in the Fall? Are you going to do it for free? Are you personally going to coach all the sports teams and provide all the guidance? And all for free? That’s a really big promise! I hope you can keep it.

    Comment by Opie — June 2, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

  116. It should be pointed out the numbers quoted in comment 114 regarding the 3rd Interim take into account approved reductions by the Board of Education at the March 4th Special meeting. In addition, to make 09/10 fiscal year numbers, the Board needs to approve $2.5 million in additional reductions.

    The $2,688,000 reserve is legal requirement of a school district to maintain a positive certification. Anything less subjects the School District to additonal oversight from the County Office of Education, up to takeover by a State administrator.

    Fundraising of $50,000 has not saved high school athletics. If Measure H is passed, that money could be used to restart middle school sports for one year.

    Comment by Mike McMahon — June 2, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

  117. I don’t have time to read all the 117 comments, but I heard on the news today, Beverly Johnson questioning Arnold, why does Alameda get less per kid for school than everyone else…are our kids worth less? Arnold replied something like of course not.. Good going Bev.

    Comment by Joel — June 2, 2008 @ 7:11 pm

  118. 118. was that in a face to face or what context?

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 2, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

  119. Rita, your research into state funding mechanisms is impressive. But you’re failing to tell your readers one crucial fact: The governor’s “May Revise” is just a proposal. It is no more the “final budget” than his January proposal was. As such, his numbers don’t mean all that much at this point.

    Now, it’s possible that education might get more funding in the final budget. It’s possible public education will end up with less. The point is, nobody knows. In fact, given the uproar over the state budget this year, the only thing we really do know is that the final numbers will be different than what we’re looking at now. Right? We’re still in the proposal stage, after all, and that’s a very political process.

    I strongly disagree with your belief that the May revise leaves us in good shape for next year; every analyst I’ve heard, including the district’s CFO, says it leaves us in very bad shape.

    But even if the current proposal was a good one (and again, I believe it is NOT), no one is predicting that the state budget will improve over the next four years. I don’t want to gamble on my kids’educations by assuming that a) the final budget will be any better; or b) if it’s not, Alamedans would be willing or able to pass a different parcel tax in November.

    Let’s give the district some insurance against the dramatic roller coaster ride of state funding for a few years. And let’s give our kids some stability in their educational experience.

    Comment by Susan Davis — June 2, 2008 @ 8:09 pm

  120. Mr. Kirwin-

    I understand that you have never said that Measure H should not be passed. But I’ve heard from you many more “concerns” and “questions” that express your displeasure with the measure than anything praising it.

    You have said, a couple of times, however, that you plan to vote for Measure H. I personally believe that a vote is the strongest, most fervent method of support for a given candidate or Measure. So if you are willing to give Measure H your vote, why aren’t you willing to give it any praise?

    I think it would be much appreciated if you saved your concerns until June 4th. Again, if you truly want it to pass, you don’t want to influence anyone to vote against it, do you?

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 2, 2008 @ 8:34 pm

  121. Joel,
    thanks for the post, I would have missed that tidbit.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9458322

    Ian, you put me at cross purposes – you ask me qustions, and you ask me not to answer them in the same post.

    What up?

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 2, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

  122. Has everyone forgotten that Franklin HAS BEEN closed in the past? and that it was taken over by Redwood Day School, a private school, that paid the district rental?
    It was reopened later on as the district needed the space for the numbers of students that were in that area. At the time, kicking out the private school was extremely emotional as many of the kids in the surrounding neighborhood did in fact attend Redwood Day.
    Nowadays, closing Franklin School would almost inevitably lead to formation of a public charter, which would not pay anything like market rent that a private school would, but the ADA for those students would still be lost.

    Please vote for Measure H! It has everything to do with programs and whether they will go forward or be cut back.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 2, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

  123. You’re a smart guy, you know what I mean.

    I was fishing for some praise for the measure. On election day, for the measure that you want to pass.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 3, 2008 @ 7:11 am

  124. Or do you?

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 3, 2008 @ 7:14 am

  125. 122

    I don’t think Ian put you at cross purposes. For all the information you’ve provided, and in my view it has been voluminous, interesting and provocative, you do leave me puzzled. I’d be surprised if most others don’t feel the same way. Ian’s concern about your concerns is valid. It would seem those who aren’t convinced that providing more money to a flawed system would not support the tax, yet you have stated that you do support the tax.

    If that’s not putting yourself at cross purposes, please share with us your straight-line answer.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 3, 2008 @ 8:47 am

  126. The AUSD school system absolutely needs more money

    This is actually a very small tax.

    Although I feel it is insufficient, and that the goals, purpose, and wording / framing of the tax measure was done without sufficient public involvement, I support the tax, I will vote in favor of it.

    I also hope we can begin the conversation on what a sufficient tax would be, and how the community can be taxed more “fairly”.

    In short – I think there are so many options as to how the proposal and measure could have been written that we don’t repeat the mistake of having a small group appoint themselves the duty of writing it without public involvement.

    Despite the problems I have been questioning, it is better to vote for this temporary tax than to not vote for it.

    It is worth the time it takes to go to the polls to support Measure H.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 9:40 am

  127. And yet throughout the campaign, you derailed discussion on the merits, to focus on who wrote the measure. Way to jump on the bandwagon early on this one. So let me ask now, in the November election, are you supporting Reagan or Carter for President?

    Comment by notadave — June 3, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

  128. DK seems more like a Harold Stassen supporter.

    Comment by Citizen X — June 3, 2008 @ 12:33 pm

  129. Inspired by Remark 112 above . . .

    Mr. Kirwin:

    I was told that you have been paid off by right wing foundations that are seeking to destroy public education through charters.

    Please prove that is not true.

    If you don’t answer in a way that I deem acceptable, I will have to report that I have not gotten answers, which would be extremely disappointing and rather troubling.

    If you or others were to object to my questions, it would be equally troubling for me that so many would seem to blame me for asking questions rather than wanting to know the facts. Tell me – Is ignorance bliss?

    Don’t ever say I said you were a bad guy or that you were taking money from right wing foundations. I didn’t say that. I was just asking questions.

    Have you been paid off by right wing foundations that are seeking to destroy public education through charters?

    Comment by Otis Campbell — June 3, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

  130. “…yet throughout the campaign… ”

    I asked a few simple questions as soon as the Measure was released to the public. If the questions were answered I wouldn’t need to keep asking, would I?

    I will always continue with my questions because in a worthy democracy the voters must be informed. I also encourage you to learn what is going on at Alameda Landing, the point and to our city’s budget as well. This is going to be a busy few days in the CC chambers, hope to see you there.

    Otis – I had forgotten about you! As Mayberry’s towne drunk you still make me cringe with your apparent stupidity. I think you must have meant to post on the “Daily Noose.”

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 3:18 pm

  131. Have you been paid off by right wing foundations that are seeking to destroy public education through charters?

    If the question were answered adequately, I wouldn’t need to keep asking, would I?

    Comment by Otis Campbell — June 3, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

  132. Hey Otis, I think you’ve mistaken Mr. Kirwin for me.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 3, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

  133. Otis Campbell – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia – Otis Campbell was the fictional “town drunk” in Mayberry on the American TV sitcom The Andy Griffith Show. Otis was played by Hal Smith and made frequent …
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Campbell – 19k – Cached – Similar pages

    Modern Drunkard Magazine Online – Mayberry’s town drunk Otis Campbell weaved and wobbled his way into television history. He acts like a baby when drunk, sees pink elephants, sings gilded …
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    O.C. – When you can be real, I can be real – until then please stay away – I don’t want your vomit on my shoes, and you stink! Obviously in this condition you are incapable of actual conversation or intellectual exchange.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

  134. Remark 133 may be right. I am the town drunk after all. 131 reminded you I am also stupid. That’s probably also true. But that’s ok. I don’t expect to be taken seriously. After all, other than a stupid drunk, who would ask that kind of a question and then repeat it?

    Comment by Otis Campbell — June 3, 2008 @ 4:51 pm

  135. 135 Oh yeah. I forgot. And I stink.

    Have you been paid off by right wing foundations that are seeking to destroy public education through charters?

    Comment by Otis Campbell — June 3, 2008 @ 4:53 pm

  136. Hey Otis, for the last time. It’s me who’s on the seek and destroy mission and today is payday.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 3, 2008 @ 4:58 pm

  137. Otis – please print this and save it for tomorrow.

    When you sober up perhaps you can explain why you think right wing foundations are seeking to destroy public education through charters. How and why would that be done? Perhaps this could be an interesting discussion. But I’ll not post to you again today; you’ll need the time to get sober, and rational

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

  138. I will always continue with my questions because in a worthy democracy the people must be informed.

    I think I will go have another drink, actually. But before I go:

    Have you been paid off by right wing foundations that are seeking to destroy public education through charters?

    Comment by Otis Campbell — June 3, 2008 @ 5:40 pm

  139. RE: # 120 “Let’s give the district some insurance against the dramatic roller coaster ride of state funding for a few years. And let’s give our kids some stability in their educational experience.”

    Susan, we are in total agreement on this statement.

    That’s why I voted yes on the parcel tax in 2001 … that parcel tax provided “insurance against the dramatic roller coaster ride of state funding for” 4 years (and the kids had 4 years of stability.

    Then, in 2005, AUSD hit us with a second parcel tax …”an emergency” they said. Wait, wasn’t that your excuse last time!???? Wasn’t that why I gave you (AUSD) the benefit of the doubt when I voted “yes” in 2001?

    So, Alameda voted AUSD a second parcel tax (… not I, I learn fast ….. and yes, it was an “increase” but it was a new tax just the same).

    Here we are again, 2008 (only THREE YEARS later this time) … SAME EXACT STORY … no long term plan developed … “it’s an emergency! … budget cuts by those terrible people in Sacramento who don’t know how to do a budget” …

    … isn’t it starting to sound the least bit familiar? … the pot calling the kettle black?

    Sorry … but it as clear as the nose on my face – AUSD is manipulating the parents and the community.

    They COULD come up with a long term solution. In the FOUR YEARS between 2001 and 2005, they could have done research; community surveys, forums,and working groups, and several drafts to run by concerned citizens to work out the worst kinks. They could have presented a final product at any time during those four years or, when the next “emergency” arose in 2005. Or they could have done it anytime in the 3 years since the 2005 parcel tax.

    Did they? The 2005 emergency proposal was no better than the 2001. Still a Band-aid. Still “buying time” (… for what?).

    And the 2008 Prop H is just the same.

    I could go on but this is too long already. I’m sure you get my drift. Where you and I differ is in on something no one CAN say for sure.

    I used history as my guide to trust that we WILL get the basic funding outlined in the May revise. There are many political and economic reasons for the legislature to make AT LEAST this much happen (if not more). Looking back at AUSD funding through various economic cycles and various threats of cuts (some actually happening, others not) it really is quite stable. So, I think it’s a reasonable expectation.

    Working from that …IF you really want stability for the kids, SOMEONE has to force AUSD’s hand and demand that we want a SOLID, LONG TERM solution and will not accept manufactured “emergencies” anymore.

    There’s no one to do that but the community. Politicians have too much stake in “making nice” …
    and, apparently we part company here, too.

    I happen to believe in our Alameda community. Although supporters repeatedly spoke of “fighting for” Prop H, I had to wonder just who they were fighting? In my 25 years here, I’ve seen nothing but wholehearted support of the kids and their programs, fundraisers, etc.

    I honestly believe that given straight answers to their questions, and a chance to help craft the details (realizing everyone won’t agree on everything) you’d have a BIG buy-in to a long term solution. And a lot of help getting it from non-parents, too.

    Yes, it’s a risk but a carefully calculated one with the back-up of reserve funds, donations, fundraisers, a caring community, etc…. and a full (stable) school year to do it. It wasn’t done in 4 years. It wasn’t done in 3 years. Maybe we have to just buckle down and force it through. No one is going to do it for us.

    Why have I even bothered with this, when it would be SO much easier to just write a check and be done with it?

    Personally, I don’t like having to make the same decision over and over. I don’t like being told I “don’t care about the children” when I ABSOLUTELY do care. I don’t like having my arm twisted. And I don’t like being told “this is the only answer” when I know FOR A FACT IT IS NOT … IT IS THE ONLY ANSWER AUSD CHOSE TO GIVE YOU (the parents and thus, to the community)

    enough .. like you probably, I’m exhausted and tired of this for now …

    I appreciate your sincerity and thoughtful comments.

    Rita Nesel

    That’s wIt’s reasonable to expect the basic funding Sa

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 3, 2008 @ 6:07 pm

  140. Awww, D.K, have a little fun!

    Every once in a while it’s ok to laugh at the town drunk, you know!

    And thank you for your post 127. That’s all I was looking for.

    Comment by Ian Merrifield — June 3, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

  141. #140

    Rita, I’m with you 100 percent.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 3, 2008 @ 6:29 pm

  142. Ian – I’m glad my answer at least satisfied you.

    Whether or not the measure passes today, I think it is worth the time to begin the conversation on what the next tax should be like. I hope Lauren will pose the question, and it gets enough response for AUSD /BOE to begin to hold workshops. Discussion could also follow the ongoing long term efforts – (there will have to be several, worked on from many angles.)

    What would be the “perfect” school tax?

    It is worth the price of conversation to get as many valid points as possible so that serving the schools will have the widest possible support.

    I am not unsympathetic to Rita’s points, but AUSD is almost completely powerless over the tough decisions that Sacramento makes. Ongoing public workshops could help give the public a chance to understand and to offer additional pieces of the solutions.

    The benefit of parcel taxes is that they are completely local. The money stays here, and is used as the people choose. That is another reason the future measure wording should be crafted with wide public involvement. Both the income and outgo are important considerations.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 7:04 pm

  143. Dave – re: #143
    “… AUSD is almost completely powerless over the tough decisions that Sacramento makes.”

    I agree. I don’t think I ever implied that AUSD could have control over Sacramento (if I did, I mispoke). Where I hold AUSD culpable is for failing to follow through on the first 2 emergency parcel taxes – putting us in the position of a third “emergency”. Sacramento has nothing to do with us putting our own house in order.

    “Whether or not the measure passes today, I think it is worth the time to begin the conversation on what the next tax should be like”

    I totally concur.

    Good night.

    I concur with the fact we need ot go forward from here rgardless of

    Comment by Rita Nesel — June 3, 2008 @ 10:17 pm

  144. At last – results starting to report today’s voters – as we get beyond the mail-ins I see MH moving up – Regardless, we should not wait for the next “emergency” to start discussions.

    http://www.acgov.org/rov/current_election/index.htm

    So far only 64 0f 1200 precincts county wide have reported, only 3 in our city.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 3, 2008 @ 10:24 pm

  145. Total Votes
    —-ABS—29%
    Ye–4718–5965 (63.62%)
    No–2906–3411 (36.38%)

    Vote Increment (29% Tot less ABS)
    Ye–1247 (71.18%) (i.e. 5965-4718)
    No– 505 (28.82%) (i.e. 3411-2906)

    —————————-
    Based on my cursory review of the data, to me, it looks like Measure H will pass. Here’s what I mean:

    Absentee Ballots:
    Yes — 4718 (61.88%)
    No — 2906 (38.12%)

    11:04PM Ballots: 29% of precinct
    Yes — 5965 (63.62%)
    No — 3411 (36.38%)

    Increment (11:04 minus Absentee):
    Yes — 1247 (71.18%)
    No — 505 (29.81%)

    In other words, if one-third of the voting precincts is any indication, people voting at the polls (not by mail) are voting on a 71.18% to 29.81% basis in favor of Measure H.

    If this 71.18%-29.81% relationship holds for the remaining 61% of the precincts, I think Measure H will pass — squeak by.

    Assuming straightline projection (big assumption, to be sure), the remaining 61% of precinct should come in at 2,623 YES versus 1,062 NO, for a cumulative vote of 8,588 YES versus 4,473 NO, or 65.75% versus 34.25%.

    To be sure, at 65.75%, this does not surpass the 66.67% threshold. But my sense (hunch) is that, straightline mathematical projection notwithstanding, Measure H will find just enough votes to push it over the 2/3rd hump.

    Comment by Tony Daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 12:01 am

  146. VOTING TRENDS ARE HOLDING! Measure H should squeak by!

    Newest increment of voters are voting 71.23% YES and 28.77% NO. The “newest increment” of voters constitutes the difference between voting totals at 59% of all precincts and 29% of all precincts.

    Previously, the first 29% of voters who voted at the booth voted 71.18% YES and 29.82% NO. Thus, the newest increment of voters are breaking slightly even more in favor of Measure H (i.e. 71.23% versus 71.18%).

    If this 71.23%-28.77%) relationship continues (if not increase), Measure H should be able to come from behind and surpass the 66.67% threshold.

    Cumulative Vote Running Total
    ABS– 29%– 53%
    YES: 4718–5965– 7114
    NO: 2906–3411– 3875

    Change between 29% and ABS
    YES: 1247 (71.18%)
    NO: 505 (29.81%)

    Change between 53% and 29%
    YES: 1149 (71.23%)
    NO: 464 (28.77%)

    Comment by Tony Daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 12:24 am

  147. Tony – Glad you are up and posting-

    “% reported” – Is this percent of precincts or registered voters? Precincts, right?

    Using the votes counted and extending % shown – it otherwise would be that Alameda has little over 20,750 registered voters. I guessing we have not heard from the larger precincts.

    I’m hoping / expecting that as results come in, the trend continues, and that it is the higher density precincts that are yet to report. At the acgov.org site on the H page you can click on the map of the precincts. Of the areas shown to have not reported yet – do you think they voted with the same ratio of ‘yes’ as those precincts that have reported?

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 12:43 am

  148. BTW – Do you think we even had 10 – 15% of registered Alameda voters go to the polls

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 12:48 am

  149. DK, rust never sleeps

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 4, 2008 @ 12:50 am

  150. p.s.- so that’s you me and Tony

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 4, 2008 @ 12:52 am

  151. Hey Dave: “% reported” refers to the precinct.

    Also: it might be true that A-town has 20,750 voters, but I suspect that turn-out will lower than 20,750. By the way . . . thinking about it a bit more . . . I always thought Alameda has roughly 30,000 registered voters (?).

    Well, I’m going to sleep — hope my prediction (wishful thinking?) holds.

    As for turn-out, person at my precinct thought it was about 30 to 40%.

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:01 am

  152. Hey Mark! Indeed, “rust never sleeps”! Wasn’t that a Led Zepplin album?

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:03 am

  153. Ooops . . . I see what you did DK . .. you took my ###’s and then extrapolated the number of voters who voted today. Yeah, that’s the number I came up with, too, i.e. around 20,700. So, if it’s 20,700 and registered ### is roughly 30,000, so maybe we’retalking about a 60% turn-out . . . ? Hmmmm . . . when I voted at 6:00 it didnt feel like a 60% turn-out. But, who knows.

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:09 am

  154. Led Zep? -Crazy, man (Actually Crazy Horse) Tony – you’ve gotta learn to stick a pig in your ear! KPIG that is… check kpig.com or 1510 AM – ‘Twas Neil Young in the 70’s

    Hoping Tony’s better at predicting – Chron talkin the other way for us, but SF passed big!

    The parcel tax was one of 16 Bay Area school measures on Tuesday’s ballot, including 10 parcel taxes, which all require two-thirds support, and six facilities bonds, which need 55 percent of the yes votes to pass.

    Late in the evening, 10 of those measures were winning.

    San Francisco’s 20-year parcel tax will pump about $29 million into city schools each year – primarily improving teacher pay and training as well as increasing funding for technology and local charter schools.

    The parcel tax kicks in on July 1 and expires in 2028.

    Based on a memorandum of understanding between the school district and the local teachers union, the vast majority of the funds raised will boost teacher salaries.

    A beginning teacher’s salary will jump about 10 percent to about $50,000; current teachers will get a $4,000 to $6,000 raise on average. The tax will also pay for one-time bonuses of $2,500 and $3,000 for those in their fourth and eighth years respectively.

    The tax was widely supported by city and school officials as well as local labor unions and business groups, but the required two-thirds vote was expected to be a tough hurdle.

    “Today’s results are a wonderful gift to the children of San Francisco,” said Phil Halperin, co-chair of the campaign. Every child deserves a great teacher. It wasn’t just a campaign slogan to us.”

    Elsewhere, the following measures won or appeared headed for victory:

    – Hayward Unified, Measure I – a $205 million facilities bond to build classrooms, install wireless technology and provide disabled access: 72 percent yes in late returns.

    – Antioch Unified, Measure C – a $61.6 million facilities bond to replace roofs and improve plumbing, electrical systems and libraries, among other projects: 64 percent yes midway through the count.

    – Ross School District, Measure A – a $6.75 million facilities bond to renovate the Ross School: 73 percent yes with all precincts reporting.

    – Nicasio School District (Marin County), Measure B – a $375 parcel tax for teacher raises, class-size reduction and other programs: 71 percent yes with all precincts reporting.

    – Palo Alto Unified, Measure A – a $378 million facilities bond to replace portable classrooms and upgrade facilities: 77 percent yes midway through the count.

    – Fremont Union High School District, Measure B – a $198 million facilities bond to upgrade electrical systems, increase technology, and add science labs and solar power, among other projects: 66 percent yes in late returns.

    – Mountain View Whisman School District, Measure C – a parcel tax of either $127 or $1,016 depending on the size of the parcel, to be used for class-size reduction and art, music and library programs: 83 percent yes in late returns.

    – Los Gatos Union School District, Measure E – an extension to a $290 parcel tax for class-size reduction, art, music and libraries: 83 percent yes midway through the count.

    – Alum Rock Union Elementary School District, Measure G – a $179 million facilities bond to fix roofs, classrooms and bathrooms, among other projects: 79 percent yes in late returns.

    The following measures were close or appeared headed for defeat:

    – Alameda Unified, Measure H – a $120 parcel tax to raise $4.2 million annually for class-size reduction, music and athletics, among other programs: 64 percent yes in early returns.

    – San Ramon Valley Unified, Measure D – a $166 parcel tax, to replace an existing $90 tax that expires next year, for school libraries, class-size stability and school counselors: 60 percent yes in early returns.

    – Pacifica School District, Measure N – a $96 parcel tax for class-size reduction and teacher recruitment: 61 percent yes in early returns.

    – Millbrae School District, Measure P – a $78 parcel tax to avoid teacher layoffs and restore music and library teachers, aides and custodians: 66 percent yes in late returns.

    – Sonoma County, Measure H – an $88 parcel tax to raise $500,000 annually for three local districts, Healdsburg, West Side and Alexander Valley: 60 percent yes midway through the count.

    – Gravenstein Union School District (Sonoma County), Measure I – a $45 parcel tax to raise $90,000 annually for art, music and technology: 58 percent yes in early returns.

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 1:13 am

  155. The latest AC posting says 100% precincts and, unfortunately, the vote is a bit short. But . . . there may be some outstanding ballots that still need to be counted (hmmm . . something your’s truly is quite familiar with :) ). I’m gonna do a quick **incremental** review of the latest batch of voters — but it looks like they did NOT vote by the 71%-19% split — but something south of that.

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:30 am

  156. Ooops, I meant 71-29.

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:33 am

  157. Checked w/ county website & it looks like 34% of registered Alameda voters (40,238) made their right to vote count, and MH fell short 343 votes. Is there any chad to hang?

    Oh, and the blog scooped Don! But who wants to post bad news?

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 1:40 am

  158. That’s 40,238. I forgot you can’t follow an 8 with a “)” or you get a 8)

    Comment by David Kirwin — June 4, 2008 @ 1:42 am

  159. Between the time when 53% of precincts were counted and when 100% of precincts were counted, the TOTAL vote went as follows:

    TOT@53% TOT@100%
    YE 7114 — 9010
    NE 3875 — 4676
    10989 — 13686

    The, the **increment** between 53% and 100% is as follows:

    YE 1896 (70.3%) (9010-7114)
    NO 801 (29.7%) (4676-3875)
    2697

    In order to get to 66.67% of the FINAL total tally, in the last batch of votes, proponents actually needed a 74.6% split (or, 2012 v. 685, not 1896 v. 801). With this split, the final tally would have been 9126 (66.67%) to 4560 (33.33%).

    Thus, Measure H (as of right now . . . since more votes could still come in, i.e. provisional ballots) is 116 votes short, i.e. 2012 (# votes needed in the last batch of votes) versus 1896 (actual # votes in the last batch of votes).

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 1:50 am

  160. Between the time when 53% of precincts were counted and when 100% of precincts were counted, the TOTAL vote went as follows:

    TOT@53% TOT@100%
    YE 7114 — 9010
    NE 3875 — 4676
    10989 — 13686

    The, the **increment** between 53% and 100% is as follows:

    YE 1896 (70.3%) (9010-7114)
    NO 801 (29.7%) (4676-3875)
    2697

    In order to get to 66.67% of the FINAL total tally, in the last batch of votes, proponents actually needed a 74.6% split (or, 2012 v. 685, not 1896 v. 801). With this split, the final tally would have been 9126 (66.67%) to 4560 (33.33%).

    Thus, Measure H (as of right now . . . since more votes could still come in, i.e. provisional ballots) is 116 votes short in the last batch, i.e. 2012 (# votes needed in the last batch of votes) versus 1896 (actual # votes in the last batch of votes).

    Another way to look at is this way: MH’s total YES is 9010 (65.83%) to 4676 (34.17%) for a total vote of 13686. Assuming the total vote remains the same at 13686, to hit 66.67%, MH needed 9126 votes, or 116 more than what they actually got.

    Comment by tony_daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 2:01 am

  161. 34 percent turn-out. Approximate mid-point of what the precinct person said (30-40).

    Comment by tony daysog — June 4, 2008 @ 6:36 am

  162. Once again the supporters of Prop H forgot to tell the Voters of Alameda that the money from this goes to support the kids that come here from Oakland to got to school and their parents don’t have to pay a dime. Why are we paying more for taxes to support kids who don’t live in Alameda?

    Comment by Rob B — June 5, 2008 @ 11:57 am

  163. The kids from Oakland can only come into Alameda schools where there is space. And when there is space, they bring their ADA with them, so it is a gain for Alameda that we can get some of these additional students to replace our declining student numbers and revenue. Why anyone would object to this except out of pure bigotry is a mystery to me.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — June 9, 2008 @ 9:51 pm

  164. We have some students who legitimately live in Alameda and have every right to attend our schools. The group I am talking about is small but they don’t worry that their child has done their homework, had proper food or a decent nights sleep. Some of these kids go to some of the schools with the finer reputations in town (the majority of the people who I know are white, not minority) These kids are tired and definitely not ready to be their best in class. I find it a little petty that some are paranoid that a few children might have parents that are so concerned with quality education that they are willing to get them to our schools even though it takes so much extra effort to get them here. I am not suggesting that we start bringing in busloads of students from other towns but if we a few it is not the end of the world. As Kevis pointed out it isn’t like we get nothing for them being here.

    Comment by Barbara M — June 9, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

  165. Sorry it is getting late…it should read

    but if we have a few

    in the last full line…night night

    Comment by Barbara M — June 9, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

  166. # 165

    “The group I am talking about is small but they don’t worry that their child has done their homework, had proper food or a decent nights sleep.”

    Think maybe we could get this “less effort” group of kids sent to Oakland’s schools so they won’t be messing up our town’s quality education? They could take their ADA with them.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 10, 2008 @ 8:50 am

  167. Jack 167, you are cold.

    “Sent” to Oakland? Rejected? Taken out, like the garbage? Should we transport them out of town on the proverbial pole? Perhaps you would like to chair the oversight committee for that project?

    Comment by Indy — June 10, 2008 @ 9:16 am

  168. Don’t need an oversight committee, Indy. Just stick ‘em in the green recycle bin and ACI will take care of the rest. Few months in the compost heap and they’ll make our garden grow.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 10, 2008 @ 12:17 pm

  169. If Alameda schools are perceived to be better than Oakland schools and if Oakland parents can enroll their children in Alameda schools without having to pay parcel taxes, then the incentive is to enroll in Alameda schools. Since ADA is not covering the cost of education, then every child who comes here from off-island reduces educational quality. If not, then why do we have a parcel tax?

    Does anyone have data as to the number of Alameda children attending Oakland schools as compared to the number of Oakland children attending Alameda schools? The same question as to the number of Alamedans working in Oakland compared to the number of Oakland residents working in Alameda.

    The greater the perceived difference in public school quality, the greater the incentive for those outside of Alameda to enroll their children in our public schools. Since Alameda schools are an employee benefit, shouldn’t the employer be paying the parcel tax for each out-of-town employee with children in our public school?

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 10, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

  170. The mental gymnastics you go through to snake out of $10/month for an essential public purpose must be exhausting.

    Comment by dave — June 10, 2008 @ 7:26 pm

  171. ANT,

    Our son looked into attending Jerry Brown’s charter school for the performing arts, but passed. Two friends of his from Alameda did attend.

    Oakland doesn’t do well with their ADA either and the kids we “steal” must hurt them.

    The cumulative negative impacts must be absolutely minimal, and in fact they may not out weigh the benefits of ADA gained by allowing those kids to attend AUSD when we have an enrollment drop. It’s about ratios of efficiencies in overhead, administration etc., to total number of students.

    I get your logic in your last paragraph but ultimately I think you are grasping at straws. Individual renters don’t pay for each student they have in the system, so forget about the employers paying for each off island student it imports as an employee benefit. DO you know stats on how many of those we have? Mike McMahon posted URL for the law on that which I did not read. Have you read it and does it extend beyond AUSD employees? If it extends beyond AUSD I bet most people wouldn’t know. I am aware of City Hall employees from places like San Leandro who could bring their kids to school here on their way to work , who do not do so, even though those kids would be better off in our system.

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 10, 2008 @ 7:49 pm

  172. Jack, I know you like the tongue in cheek and all, but even so I tend to agree with Indy and think you are shameless, and not in a good way. You maybe want to make lamp shades out of them? Ha-ha-ha. Is that a lower blow than your posts? I don’t really think so.

    Comment by Mark Irons — June 10, 2008 @ 7:50 pm

  173. #172

    “Mike McMahon posted URL for the law on that which I did not read. Have you read it and does it extend beyond AUSD employees?”

    Any employment in the district allows the parent to send his/her children to that district’s schools.
    http://wwwstatic.kern.org/gems/fcmat/052004.pdf

    The faster each district tries to bail out the deficit, the more holes the state drills in the hull. I simply believe that this is not a problem that can or should be solved at the local level. I do not doubt the sincerity of those who are trying to pass more local taxes, I just believe that in the end the approach is futile.

    Comment by AlamedaNayTiff — June 10, 2008 @ 8:09 pm

  174. Thanks for your support Mark. Hate to say it but I like my compost analogy better than your lamp shades. I have never seen lamp shades (or hippies) get better with age.

    Comment by Jack Richard — June 10, 2008 @ 9:59 pm


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