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April 18, 2008

That one Joni Mitchell song

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Neighbors, Development — Lauren Do @ 7:07 am

Yeah, you know you know it.   It’s been used to headline (or end) a letter or two for practically any development concept in Alameda: proposed Target at Alameda Towne Centre, Alameda Theatre, Alameda Point, etc…   Even though the irony is that the proposed land is already paved or a parking lot has already existed there.   If we really wanted to talk about paving paradise, the San Francisco Chronicle has a story about sprawl and its subsequent impact on the amounts of open space aka paradise that will be left in the Bay Area if the sprawly trend is to continue.  Coupled with the downturn in the economy and housing market, perhaps it’s as good as a time as any to reexamine our collective land use patterns while the majority of folks are taking a breather from buying homes, even the ones that you have to “drive until you qualify.” Highlights:

…[Tracy] sits as a symbol of the quest by working- and middle-class Bay Area residents to find housing they can afford - a pursuit that often draws them further from the traditional job centers in San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose.

The migration comes at costs to the environment: loss of natural habitat, increased greenhouse gases and a growing strain on the watershed.

“Sprawl is an inefficient and unsustainable use of our land resources,” said Elizabeth Adam, spokeswoman for the Bay Area Open Space Council. “It is often the default pattern of development that solves short-term problems but has very negative effects on communities over time.”

“Between 1980 and 2000, the number of commuters from 12 neighboring counties into the Bay Area’s nine-county core nearly quadrupled from 30,000 to 117,000 daily,” [Gabriel] Metcalf and [Egon] Terplan found. “Given that the vast majority of commuters were driving alone, nearly 90,000 new cars were added to already-congested roadways from trips alone.”

Vehicle emissions account for half the greenhouse gas emissions in California.

The loss of open space has altered California’s economy and ecosystem.

“We’re losing migration corridors for animals and compromising our watersheds and paving over productive farmland,” said Amanda Brown-Stevens, field director for Greenbelt Alliance, a Bay Area land conservation and urban planning organization.

Brown-Stevens said the demands of population growth and the search for affordable housing can’t be ignored. However, she said, there are development options that are less harmful to the environment than building on remote open lands.

One such option, she said, is the construction of compact residential developments with a mix of condos, single-family homes and apartments in cities. Ideally, they would be near stores and job centers and have easy access to public transit to make it more convenient for people to get around without driving…

While I can understand the lack of enthusiasm some folks have for welcoming new residents to Alameda and the nuisances that seemingly come with it like traffic congestion, despite the best efforts in Alameda to keep folks out in order to “protect” what it has, the population of the Bay Area and surroundings will expand even if Alamedans don’t like it.   Traffic congestion will grow on our freeways and therefore impact our ingress and egress even if nothing ever gets built ever again in Alameda.   But if we truly want to be stewards of our city, county, region, and state we should consider what impact our lack of a diversity of housing does for the region and beyond. 

And from another article in the SF Chronicle about climate change affecting our land use patterns, highlights:

…[Will] Travis also said the changing conditions might make bayside growth desirable in selected locations. Large-scale projects could serve as a sort of buffer to what already exists on landfill.

…Travis suggested. “There’s a lot of low-lying development we need to protect … we need a new type of more resilient development.”

For decades, critics have complained suburban sprawl covers farmland and causes air pollution because of increased automobile use. They now point out that those long commutes boost the amount of vehicle miles traveled - a major factor in carbon emissions.

Also, inland housing tracts tend to be in communities where summers are hotter, boosting energy consumption per capita.

The flip side: Much of this sprawl has occurred because of growth limits imposed by cities near the bay…

…[Ken] Kirkey said climate change alone won’t cause people to change their attitudes on growth. What’s new is an understanding of local land use’s larger ramifications.

“There’s a willingness to discuss the way we grow because of climate change,” said Kirkey, ABAG’s planning director. “People get the connection.”

As for what comes next, “This is a region that thinks of itself as a leader,” Kirkey said. “If we want to be a leader in responding to climate change, we can’t just buy Priuses. We need to talk about where and how we live.”

27 Comments »

  1. These points from the Climate Change article resonated with me:

    “Some officials are suggesting that some bayside areas may need to be abandoned in light of studies that indicate San Francisco Bay could rise several feet by 2100 because of sea level changes.”

    “…Maps released by the BCDC last year show that rising sea levels of about 1 meter (3.28 feet) would submerge many of the wetlands that now ring much of the bay.”

    “…There are places where it might be better to remove developments and restore wetlands. Wetlands are wonderful for flood control…”

    RE Habitat destruction: Here’s a bit from an Oakland Trib article about the proposed wildlife refuge at the Point.

    “Because of the lack of public access and a lack of activity out there, the wildlife has really taken over at Alameda Point,” Saddler said. “Birds you may not see elsewhere for miles and miles you will see out there because of the sanctuary it provides.”
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20071023/ai_n21060500

    -Wildlife: Not. In. My. Back. Yard.?

    Comment by Susan — April 18, 2008 @ 7:49 am

  2. DK isn’t gonna like this . . .

    Comment by MarkD — April 18, 2008 @ 8:06 am

  3. $5/gallon gasoline this summer should take the hammer to sprawl, dontcha think?

    Comment by Jack B — April 18, 2008 @ 11:19 am

  4. You think $5 a gallon will curtail people’s driving habits? The UK and presents evidence to the contrary. By US standards, they’ve been paying nosebleed gas prices for years - and in real terms they earn less money than Americans - yet they still use their cars just as much. I think people have a surprisingly high pain threshold for gas prices.

    Comment by Andy Currid — April 18, 2008 @ 1:14 pm

  5. I think that sprawl in amerika is grinding to a halt. We can infill until the cows come home.

    I don’t know if 5 bucks is the right threshold but I think there is a price that will curtail behavior, and I believe markets are the best way to sort this out. If we were paying the REAL cost of oil they’d maybe think twice,,, but as it is, they don’t think once about pushing the price (subsidized through our military endeavors) onto future generations.

    Comment by Jack B — April 18, 2008 @ 2:38 pm

  6. “If we were paying the REAL cost of oil they’d maybe think twice,,”

    Just out of curiosity who is the “they” the Brits or us and what is the “REAL” cost of oil?

    Taxes: There are many who say that petroleum is big business. One of the biggest “Partners” is the state & federal government… 31%

    Refining Costs & Profits: This is the amount of money that the actual Big Oil Companies make but includes cost and profit… 13%

    Distribution & Marketing Costs & Profits: The actual cost of transporting the crude to the refineries and then gasoline to the gas stations… 13%

    Gas Stations Profits: This is the markup that is made by the individual gas station operator. This amount varies from location to location and can be little as a few cents per gallon up to over $.10 a gallon…

    Global gas prices

    Effective Date 180108 Price in USD
    Regular/Gallon
    Nation City Price
    UK TEESIDE $5.64
    HONG KONG HONG KONG $5.62
    UK MILFORD HAVEN $5.56
    UK READING $5.56
    UK NORWICH $5.54
    GERMANY FRANKFURT $5.29
    DENMARK COPENHAGEN $5.08
    NORWAY STAVANGER $5.07
    NORWAY OSLO $4.93
    ITALY ROME $4.86
    TURKEY ISTANBUL $4.85
    PORTUGAL LISBON $4.80
    KOREA SEOUL $4.71
    SWITZERLAND GENEVA $4.56
    KOREA KOJE/OKPO $4.53
    AUSTRIA VIENNA $4.50
    CROATIA ZAGREB $4.32
    JAPAN TOKYO $3.84
    AUSTRALIA SYDNEY $2.63
    CAMBODIA PHNOM PENH $2.57
    TAIWAN TAIPEI $2.47
    GEORGIA TBILISI $2.31
    LAOS VIENTIANE $1.66
    THAILAND BANGKOK $1.60
    CHINA TIANJIN $1.54
    CHINA SHANGHAI $1.48
    RUSSIA MOSCOW $1.45
    KAZAKHSTAN ALMATY $1.36
    KAZAKHSTAN ATYRAU $1.35
    TAJIKISTAN DUSHANBE $1.32
    AZERBAIJAN BAKU $1.15
    VENEZUELA CARACAS $0.14

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 18, 2008 @ 4:49 pm

  7. we is they is us.

    yes we pay for oil w/ our taxes and also at the pump. and the taxes are being pushed out into the future.

    Comment by Jack B — April 18, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

  8. so is our mortgage, and we ride on the ‘pushed out’ of our progenitors and they is us is they

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 18, 2008 @ 7:52 pm

  9. The rising sea levels present a lot of questions about new development. The city is “anticipating a 6 to 18 inch sea rise for all new construction,” including the Point. http://www.ibabuzz.com/alamedajournal/2008/03/28/rising-sea-levels-and-development/#more-62
    Is that enough? How long do we expect a new development to last? If remedial measures are needed in 50 or 100 years, who is going to pay for them?
    All these unanswered questions leave me unconvinced that we should develop the areas of the Point (or any part of Alameda) that will be below sea level with a one-meter rise. http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=37.7867,-122.2941&z=3&m=1

    Comment by Jonathan — April 19, 2008 @ 7:58 am

  10. Re rising sea levels: At this point, the whole city could be at risk, let alone new development. How will rising sea levels affect storm drains, the lagoon, and approaches to the tube? I try to imagine a partly flooded island that still functions normally, and I’m not sure if that’s possible.

    As a general question: if we’re expecting a rising sea level, is it advisable to mitigate against that by building virtually at sea level? And what about regional infrastructure issues, such as the EBMUD sewage treatment plant? There’s been so much emphasis on crowding in yet more people here. Housing should be located on the basis of a site analysis, and between the Bay and the Hayward Fault, this is not looking good.

    Comment by DL Morrison — April 19, 2008 @ 11:44 am

  11. Re rising sea levels and the 99.9% chance of the big shake within 30 years. Notice how the floating homes at Barnhill have escalated in price while everything else here is deflating.

    If we’re lucky the sea level will rise just when the big one hits and all the extra water will run down the cracks in the plate. Just in case, I’m busy designing pontoon outriggers for my house. Good wine storage units until the big one hits or floats, or whatever.

    Went by the new parking garage on Central today. They really did a good job, it looks great. Kudos to the city leaders.

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 19, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

  12. >>> They really did a good job, it looks great.

    I just went by it, Jack R. Can I please get some of what you are smokin’?

    Comment by Jack B — April 19, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

  13. Great name Jack, ain’t it? Don’t need smoke.

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    Comment by Jack Richard — April 19, 2008 @ 8:04 pm

  14. There is just no end to what we can do!

    Comment by Jack B — April 19, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

  15. I have to agree, I really like the new garage. Can’t wait until the Theaters open.

    Comment by Joel — April 20, 2008 @ 8:09 am

  16. I’m looking forward to sending it to Kunstler for his “Eyesore of the Month” feature, but I’ll give them a chance to finish off the theatre first.

    I don’t know where you are looking at it from… but if you think it LOOKS good from the Longs side,,, maaaaaaannnn… I just have to wonder!!!

    Not that I expect a parking garage to look good, but this one is particularly gruesome, imho.

    Comment by Jack B — April 20, 2008 @ 10:32 am

  17. Jack R, maybe you can enlighten me: why are old people so crabby? I’m an older person too, and I see one benefit in particular — I no longer have to polite to cantankerous old folks.

    Comment by DL Morrison — April 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

  18. Then why are you?

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 20, 2008 @ 7:12 pm

  19. 17, 18,

    I’m 53 and have been an old man, bitter and sarcastic, since I was 10 (I AM from Pennsylvania, but I’m NOT into guns or traditional religion). The roots are personal, but then one learns to ferret out similar individuals to parlay with, just like a heat seeking missile. Ka-blooey! Drop a curmudgeon bomb on ol’ Jack just to be a prick.

    Comment by Mark, a.k.a. "Leftie" — April 21, 2008 @ 5:34 pm

  20. Why is it that people must resort to ad hominem when the issue is not the age of the protagonists or the roots of one’s upbringing but the strength of convictions and the arguments supporting those convictions?

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 21, 2008 @ 7:50 pm

  21. chill folks, chill. Joni Mitchell makes me a little grouchy too… but it’s not as if it’s a Joan Baez post or anything… then you might see me lose it on somebody!

    Comment by Jack B — April 21, 2008 @ 8:14 pm

  22. This post is interesting because it acknowledges both sides: The Bay Area needs to address better housing solutions or accept more sprawl. The answer obviously isn’t to lock people pit of an area because regardless of the costs, people keep right on coming, which is nothing more than incremental population growth and the subsequent strains it places on the environment no matter what sort of gas-sipping hybrid you drive or whatever type of planned community you live in.

    In regards to fuel, well I visited the UK a few years back. On average, their cars got well over 50MPG. Some as much as 70MPG using tiny little turbo diesel engines. People planned their trips. The entire UK is like California on steroids in regards to housing costs: the cost of living is so high that many of my friends there are moving to New Zealand, Australia, and even the US.Young families don’t have a chance there. Yet their economy is still in somewhat ok condition even though Europe is just now getting slapped with their own US-style housing crash.

    Bottom line, if fuel prices keep rising, people will change their driving habits. GM, Toyota, Ford, Honda,and Chrysler all have numerous newer technologies on the horizon that could easily drop fuel consumption in half.Just look up the Chevy Volt, a hybrid-electric car that’ll go 50 miles on a battery then switch to a tiny 1.1 liter gas/ethanol engine. The results will be a 100MPG fuel economy.Think of that. That would be triple what my small car gets now.

    I had an interesting experience regarding sprawl and community development. I just spent a few days in Raleigh Durahm NC. Altogether, it was a nice city. But I was there around 10 years ago and the change I saw was severe. It looked as if the place was basically an Orgy for “equity locusts”. Lots of ugly cookie-cutter Mcmansion developments and out of state license plates. The Airport was jammed packed. There were people from Japan, China, India, and of course- the Northeast and the West Coast. All there for one thing: new opportunity, and in most cases- affordable housing and living standards.

    As it is now, Raleigh is a fairly pleasant,refreshing, modern city. But at the rate that it is growing, it will be pretty much like the Bay Area and any other large metro with development problems and who knows- affordability issues in the next decade.I certainly heard some griping from locals who weren’t exactly pleased to see so many people moving down from “Up North”So the continuous pattern of the locals and even more recent arrivals despising newcomers is universal.

    It made me think about a few things. Foe one, most of the growth there is from people fleeing places they can either no longer afford, or for the opportunity to sell a crappy old house elsewhere and take the cash and buy some monstrous house there. That’s a given. But it seems almost ridiculous that we as a nation have created an environment in our large cities that more or less drives people out and away. If the suburbs and more recent exurbs were working to provide reasonable living situations for middle class families, then todays developing cities on the fringes; cities like Raleigh and so on are modern day equivalents of today’s suburbs. The exurbs no longer work in places in the BA and the inner cores especially, which have given way to be affordable to only the affluent or those willing to make severe financial sacrifices.

    We must find better ways to manage and control our cities so that we can start stabilizing growth, affordability, livability, and sustainability. Otherwise, the pattern that we seem to have been living in the past 50 years when it comes to urban development will only repeat itself in the same manner elsewhere.

    Comment by edvard — April 22, 2008 @ 7:56 am

  23. Bob Wilson, you forgot to add the part where you are a smart renter and are saving nearly 70% of your income.

    Comment by Roberto — April 22, 2008 @ 11:15 am

  24. He also forgot to mention that Surf city no longer has 2 girls for every boy but Tennessee still does.

    Comment by wilson's bobby — April 22, 2008 @ 11:39 am

  25. #22 Edvard: North Carolina became the new destination of choice for the Northeast’s “snowbirds” — people escaping the winter, mostly retirees. Florida was in that role for decades, but its housing was overrun w/ speculation, plus the cost of hurricane insurance went very high. So housing factors are driving this, but so is the climate, both “up north” and “down south”.

    #20: For heaven’s sakes, Jack, you keep dissing me, so what’s the difference? I am totally in favor of substantive discussion, but I don’t see that you are.

    So let’s consider some issues:

    (1) Does it make sense to apply a “one size fits all” development policy to every locality everywhere without regard to local conditions? We have earthquakes here, it’s a major threat, and the relative risk to each site needs to be considered as a matter of course.

    (2) If the Tubes get overwhelmed w/ commuter traffic, which is certain to happen w/ further development here and in Oakland, what can be done to remedy that? I think the answer would be “nothing”, so we’d be stuck w/ that based solely on a doctrinaire development policy. The consequences would generate far more in greenhouse gases, so we’d make commuting impossible for no particular good reason.

    Any substantive thoughts?

    Comment by DL Morrison — April 22, 2008 @ 1:38 pm

  26. Roberto and “Wilson’s Bobby”
    How old are you guy(s)? 15? And yes- seeing how the housing market is imploding upon itself here, I don’t think I need a reminder about intelligence and choice in regards decision making, as we can see how that is turning out for those now losing tens of thousands of dollars on their ‘investments’.Thanks for reminding me.

    And for DL Morrison,
    The change in NC’s growth is less to do with snowbirds and more to do with business development in biotech and medical research. There is also a growing number of IT tech firms there as well. The average age in NC was actually younger than the Bay Area. I have a friend who actually lived in Alameda as a school teacher for 30 years before moving the Raleigh. He told me that Raleigh reminded him an awful lot of what the Bay Area used to be like when he first moved there in the 60’s.

    In regards to traffic in Alameda: Build a bigger bridge.Cramming the tubes with bottleneck traffic would only mean people would be driving their cars longer, hence polluting more. If they could gain access quicker, bingo- less time spent filling the air with carbon dioxide. But I get a feeling that environmental concerns are a very small thought in most old-school Alamedan’s minds. The threat such a bridge would bring in terms of newcomers would mean it will never get past initial discussions.

    Comment by edvard — April 23, 2008 @ 7:45 am

  27. # 25

    Issue # (1) Is there someone applying a “one size fits all” development policy? Not yet but it’s coming. ABAG and others would certainly like to impose their development policy on the entire BA. I suppose eventually they’ll be successful given the direction of all the “experts” are headed. When that happens we can expect the experts to move on (except edvard) and we’ll be left wallowing.

    Issue # (2) Edvard’s bridge is a substantive thought. About a hundred threads ago I suggested (tongue in cheek) the estuary be filled in from Park to the BFI bridge. Neither edvard’s not my thought has the slightest chance of happening. The best we can hope for is to let the former base be left alone, which seems to be happening by default anyway. Probably the second best would have the Navy eventually get fed up and sell the joint piecemeal.

    Comment by Jack Richard — April 23, 2008 @ 8:51 am

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