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February 11, 2008

Allowing awful alliteration annoys anyone?

Filed under: Alameda, Alameda Point, Bayport, City Council, Development, Measure A — Tags: — Lauren Do @ 7:01 am

This letter from Diane Coler-Dark on Alameda Daily News was too good not to comment on, it’s already “fallen off” ADN, but I have reproduced it here for your reading pleasure:

What’s wrong with this picture? All of the Mayor’s appointed Planning Board Members are on record as wanting to dump Measure A. This Planning Board insists on grid streets, then complains about “cookie cutter” developments and blames Measure A for what they approved. Streets near the waterfront need a grid pattern for visual contact with the water. Bayport housing, in the middle of nowhere, all grid street linear open space, no demands on the developer for creative designs and “bingo”, their number one poster child example of why we should get rid of Measure A. Harbor Bay Isle and award winning Marina Village were developed in compliance with Measure A; look at them and see what a good Planning Board can accomplish.

There is a vacancy on the Planning Board and avowed anti-Measure A opponent John Knox White has applied. If the Mayor nominates him, Alameda will have its first ever 100% anti-Measure A Planning Board. Alameda has a developer drooling dream team on the Planning Board composed of high density advocates, with taste only in their mouths, who never question developers assertions of what they must build to make a profit.

Bottom line, Planning Board is appointed and cannot be recalled. Mayor and City Council appoint them; remove them and set a policy of “The Buck Stops There”.

First of all, no one has yet produced ANY evidence that ANY of the sitting Planning Board members have EVER come out against Measure A.  I love that folks like Diane C-D continue to beat the drum about how they are “on record,” but have yet to produce that record.   But, if they did, so what?   The Planning Board can’t change Measure A, they can’t put a measure on the ballot, they can’t approve on a non-compliant Measure A development, all decisions made by the Planning Board can be appealed to the City Council, so what is the threat that a supposedly “Anti-Measure A” Planning Board could do to Measure A?

If one has actually looked at an overhead arial map of Alameda one can see that the majority of the island, with the notable exception of Bay Farm is in a grid pattern, even those removed from the waterfront.  Psst, did I mention that Bayport is also an “award winning” development as well?  Yes, and not just for marketing as some would have you believe.  In 2005, one of the models won for “Category 33 – Best Single Family Detached Home 2,300 sf & over On a Small Lot (3,200 to 4,200 sf)”  And while it did win awards for marketing, it also won awards two awards for architectural design.  So I’m not sure what awards were won by Marina Village, a cursory google search comes up empty other than it being called “award-winning,” not that I doubt it being “award-winning,” it’s just that awards tend to get thrown around rather haphazardly these days.

I must have missed the memo passed out by John Knox White avowing his opposition to Measure A.   I didn’t realize that saying that it is a good idea to talk about the benefits and limitations of Measure A meant that you were pledging your undying hatred of Measure A.   Clearly, my bad.

And what was with this?

Alameda has a developer drooling dream team on the Planning Board composed of high density advocates, with taste only in their mouths, who never question developers assertions of what they must build to make a profit.

“Developer drooling dream team”? “[W]ith taste only in their mouths”?  Really?  Is that what we are reduced to?  Certainly, I don’t think Catellus was very happy with the Planning Board when they made them go back and forth and back and forth on the sidewalk and parking lot issue for Alameda Landing.   At that point, I’m sure they weren’t drooling with the idea of tangling with the Planning Board for another bout of “what about pedestrian access?”  

And while I think that Diane C-D is saying is that she is not happy with the current make-up of the Planning Board.  (I’m not really sure, it’s all so subtle) I am unsure of the reason that Diane C-D does not think that the Planning Board is doing a bad job other than the fact that she believes them to be anti-Measure A.   Until that is a part of the requirement for sitting on the Planning Board, it’s a pretty weak rational for throwing out the lot of them and starting afresh where the “buck” would “stop.” What that “buck” is and why it is stopping, I’m still not entirely clear.

20 Comments »

  1. You know, no matter what you build someone is not going to like it and others will. I personally find it hard to get around on Bay Farm, it is a hit or miss sometime like driving around in circles. Marina Village is measure a compliant but barely. The structures look like they are attached until you realize there is a small fence between them. Bayport is a typical Alameda Neighborhood. Big Houses, small lots. A friend who use to live in Alameda before Bayport was build commented on how small the lots were in Alameda.

    Comment by Joel — February 11, 2008 @ 8:33 am

  2. Re the below:

    “I must have missed the memo passed out by John Knox White avowing his opposition to Measure A. I didn’t realize that saying that it is a good idea to talk about the benefits and limitations of Measure A meant that you were pledging your undying hatred of Measure A.”

    I do not think John is “anti Measure A”, but he does appear to be interested in more than just discussing its benefits and limitations.

    “…I think this is like my not agreeing with you that I am “anti-measure a” since I’m only interested in amending it for the Point. I understand your stance that any minute change to Measure A is “anti,” but I don’t think I qualify for the term, which makes me sound like I’m actively interested in getting rid of it all together.”

    http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:WykNz3FZknMJ:laurendo.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/naming-names-part-2/+%2Bsusan+%2B%22john+knox+white%22+%2B%22measure+a%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

    “…I think this is like my not agreeing with you that I am “anti-measure a” since I’m only interested in amending it for the Point. I understand your stance that any minute change to Measure A is “anti,” but I don’t think I qualify for the term, which makes me sound like I’m actively interested in getting rid of it all together.”

    Comment by Susan — February 11, 2008 @ 9:23 am

  3. Oops! -Sorry for the double quotation!

    Comment by Susan — February 11, 2008 @ 9:23 am

  4. (gasp) so there’s actually people out there who oppose socialist-style measures that prevent affordability and growth? good god, what is this world coming to?

    If more people oppose M-A, then perhaps it is time for it’s ouster.

    Comment by edvard — February 11, 2008 @ 11:12 am

  5. I have never noticed any planning board members drooling, or nodding off since I left the board. Most of them are to young for that to happen.
    Although I think I may have a few times. John P.

    Comment by john piziali — February 11, 2008 @ 8:54 pm

  6. Measure A is not preventing affordable housing in Alameda. Alameda housing prices are in line with or less expensive than those in Albany, Berkeley, or Piedmont. We have lots of rentals available for affordable prices, and the proportion of rental vs. owned housing is still high here– more than 50% rentals.

    And as for the base, I don’t see why Measure A would prevent the BOQ or BEQ from being remodeled as multiple units, since there is an exemption in Measure A for pre-existing multiple units.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — February 11, 2008 @ 9:16 pm

  7. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………………

    Lauren, haven’t you wasted enough of everybody’s time with this blog topic?

    Why don’t you collect the signatures for a ballot initiative? (That’s a rhetorical question because you obviously can’t get enough supporting signatures to qualify for an initiative… - or it would have been done long long ago.)

    Comment by David kirwin — February 11, 2008 @ 11:13 pm

  8. Kevis, I believe the issue with the BEQ and BOQ is that the units don’t have kitchens (there was a shared mess hall/dining hall). It’s the installation of the kitchen that changes the use, and therefore they cannot be converted to housing.
    The exception would be some sort of senior housing, where there would be shared dining. And the buildings are so huge, I don’t think they’d work too well for that use.

    Comment by johnknoxwhite — February 12, 2008 @ 8:16 am

  9. Alliteration with vowels is actually called assonance, not alliteration.

    Comment by James — February 12, 2008 @ 9:19 am

  10. Well it’s a good thing that “developer drooling dream” all start with a consonant.

    Comment by Lauren Do — February 12, 2008 @ 9:56 am

  11. Wait, what is “alliteration with vowels” supposed to mean? :-)

    For the curiously inclined, here’s some background:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliteration

    Comment by alameda — February 12, 2008 @ 10:33 am

  12. “Allowing awful alliteration annoys anyone?”

    Actually it is the “s” that I find bothersome.

    Comment by David Kirwin — February 12, 2008 @ 3:09 pm

  13. Oh, snap!!! I believe DK wins this battle of the Grammar Wars.

    Comment by Dave S. — February 12, 2008 @ 3:42 pm

  14. It’s correct either way. Leaving out the “s” works if you assume a word has been omitted, as is common in headlines:

    [Does] Allowing awful alliteration annoy anyone?

    With the “s” it’s merely a statement turned into a question:

    Allowing awful alliteration annoys anyone?

    It is always grammatically correct to transform statements in this way, though it may sound more natural in some cases to change the word order or use a helping verb. So, if there is a “snap” to be administered, it’s purely a matter of style!

    Comment by Michael Krueger — February 12, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

  15. Thanks JKW for the clarification. I still think that they were residential units and could be reused as residential units under the charter. How about things like co-housing? I have several friends who live in the co-housing development at the former Swan’s Market in Oakland.

    Comment by Kevis Brownson — February 13, 2008 @ 8:02 pm

  16. I think we have learned that contractors can get around the MA restriction by NOT having kitchens, and instead have a small room with a counter, sink, table, microwave and additional outlets. If there is not a conventional oven and range, there is no kitchen. Wasn’t that how the law was interpreted recently? Was it Cardinal Point?

    Comment by David Kirwin — February 13, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

  17. Did I hears Krueger correctly - a noise anyone?

    Does the “s” tacked on the verb make the above statment a question? I thoughts maybe that was the job of “?”.

    Comment by decay — February 14, 2008 @ 12:29 am

  18. Jeez, the question was done at “did”.

    Nope, clearly the “s” just doesn’t do it for me. Simply adding an “s” to the verb does not turn a statment into a question?

    Think I need to trys it more?

    Comment by ? — February 14, 2008 @ 12:38 am

  19. Yes DK, it was Cardinal Point. How dare those evil blood thirsty developers design a facility to serve seniors just for the sake of being able to get around MA restrictions.

    Comment by notadave — February 14, 2008 @ 7:39 am

  20. NADy - You completely miss my point so often I feel it MUST be intentional!

    Kevis, in #6 wrote
    Measure A is not preventing affordable housing in Alameda. Alameda housing prices are in line with or less expensive than those in Albany, Berkeley, or Piedmont. We have lots of rentals available for affordable prices, and the proportion of rental vs. owned housing is still high here– more than 50% rentals.

    And as for the base, I don’t see why Measure A would prevent the BOQ or BEQ from being remodeled as multiple units, since there is an exemption in Measure A for pre-existing multiple units.

    JKW, who seems to be in the developer’s corner wanting to build as many as 5 - 10,000 new dwelling at the point, wrote that MA prevented reuse of the existing historic structures at the Point.

    To me it looks like MA does not prevent re-use of those structures – that was my point.

    Of course you are free to continue to stay off the point as you choose.

    Comment by David Kirwin — February 14, 2008 @ 7:01 pm

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